According to what the top trusted Japanese source told me, the Fujifilm X-Pro2 will NOT feature a tilt screen.
From the comments shared on FujiRumors in the past, I know that some will applaud this decision, others won’t. I remember this older Poll, launched when the X-T1 still had to be announced, where 32% of the FujiRumors readers wanted an X-T1 without tilt-screen.
So here are two polls:
- The first is about how important the tilt screen in the X-Pro2 is for you.
- The second one is an updated flagship battle Poll X-T2 Vs. X-Pro2, considering this new rumor. Sensor, AF-performance and Firmware overall would remain the same between X-Pro2 and X-T2. Main differences: the X-T2 won’t have an OVF, be cheaper, have a better grip etc, while the X-Pro2 will have the hybrid viewfinder, no tilt screen, rangefinder design etc.
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[poll id=”144″]
TRUSTED
– APS-C sensor (TS + AS + AS)
– 1/8000 of a second mechanical shutter speed (TS)
– coming late 2015 (TS + AS)
– delayed to 2016 (TS)
– Coming after CES (TS)
– Announcement on 15th Janaury 2016 (TS)
– weather sealed (TS)
– 4K video (TS + NeS)
– Faster Processor EXR III (TS)
– No Tilt Screen (TS)
SOURCE RIGHT IN THE PAST
– Sync Speed faster than 1/180th (SRP)
– coming in January 2016 (SRP)
NEW / ANONYMOUS SOURCE
– 24MP sensor (AS) – More than 16MP (AS)
– about the same size of current X-PRO1 (NeS)
– dual SD card slot (NeS + AS)
– tilt screen (AS)
– WiFi (AS)
– Price about 20% to 30% more expensive than the X-T1 (AS)
– Two X-PRO2 version, one 24MP APS-C and one 25-27 MP APS-X, compatible with XF/XC lenses (NeS + OS)
OTHER SITES
– coming September / October (OS + OS)– Non organic APS-C X-Trans sensor (OS)
– smaller than X-PRO1 (OS)
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Second poll has little to do with the tilt screen though, i would choose an X-T2 anyway. : )
From a purely personal opinion, I think a tilt screen is more important on an SLR style body than on a Range Finder style and I mean full tilt and not articulated.
I think viewfinder placement and tilt or no tilt are totally independent choices … and the horrible one that goes off to the side is called ‘fully articulated’.
The tilt screen only does what it’s supposed to, tilt up and down by as little or as much as needed, without the need to flip it open first like a chimp.
Thank you for correcting me Mr J but I’m well aware of the difference between Tilt and Articulated screens as I use both with my present equipment.
If you like it with or without the tilt screen, at least it shows that Fuji still has the guts to make a decision for “less is more” and against providing all these features that other cameras have for granted.
I would miss the tilt screen maybe a little bit, but I love to have a cool camera that is intentionally different from all others.
With all due respect, I fail to see how missing useful features off a camera is better. Unless you are after a piece of art rather than a full-functional tool.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
It’s like this:
I still shoot film and I’m used to old film cameras and their imperfection. But there is also a certain thrill in shooting film. And it’s exactly this fascination that the X-Pro1 was able to translate into the digital world.
Not because the X-Pro1 was a perfect camera. Nope, it isn’t. Not at all. But exactly because of its limitations. The intentional reduction of superficial features. Because the X-Pro1 had much less of the normal stuff, but it is so much more rewarding using it. It’s inspirational.
If I’d need a workhorse type of camera – I’d pick a Nikon D810, not an X-pro 1/2.
But lucky me, I don’t make money by taking pictures, so for me the fun factor is more important than a list of features.
Fair enough.
Interestingly, I had the same feelings when I first bought the X-T1. It felt like I was rediscovering the joy of photography.
But for me the tilt screen brought a whole new perspective and potential that I hadn’t fully realised before with my Canon cameras. I could suddenly get angles that previously were impossible or hit-and-miss (hope for the best!), what’s more it made getting those angles a lot of fun. Each to their own, though 🙂
I’ve heard this several times: Fujifilm is like film all over again. How is it that your digital camera captures the fascination of film? I must call BS. It may be fun. It even has an OVF. You know what? Most P&S cameras had them for years. Exactly the same: zooming, imperfectly framing OVFs. I never heard anyone suggest that they brought back the fascination of film photography.
Which means it is all down to a couple of dials. Do dials bring back the film experience? That doesn’t make any sense. Film cameras have had many many interfaces, many which have nothing to do with the so-called ‘traditional’ controls of the Fujifilm X cameras.
That said, I will agree: the X-Pro 1 was fun to shoot with. The X-T1 is like any other digital camera. Actually, it most reminds me of the Nikon D7100, but smaller and a bit easier to accidentally twiddle a setting.
And the X-Pro 1 has a number of redundant controls, more so, in fact, than a competing ‘workhorse’ camera, which are made necessary because certain lenses have aperture rings, others don’t, and because if you want to manually select half or third stops, you have to do it via an unlabelled dial. Essentially, the ‘fun’ is completely down to a single dial: the exposure wheel, and the camera’s looks. If you want a more robustly true-to-principle digital-on-film experience, you should look further afield. A digital M is FAR closer to the feel and interaction level of a film camera, and actually, holds its value better. That said, I don’t think it is about the fascination with film. I think it is all about looks. If that’s it, then enjoy, but there is nothing at all the X series has to do with film.
Finally, all Fujifilm cameras are technical tours de force. They are more computerised than the D810 you mention, which also lacks a tilt screen. Tilt screens, or their lack, have nothing at all to do with film.
In fact, my film cameras have tilt screens. They both tilt, shift, and rise by many many centimetres. One of them tilts even farther than the X-T1.
“…there is nothing at all the X series has to do with film.”
Well, in a sense, actually there is. Fuji is the only manufacturer of digital cameras in the world who has also manufactured film for 80+ years. And that film knowledge definitely informs their sensor attributes.
So film transparencies or slides somehow dictate how a digital camera is designed and interacted with? Not at all.
Clearly you don’t understand what I’m saying.
Oh well…
Clearly I don’t.
No offense. But I wouldn’t really say that the X-Pro1 has redundant controls. The whole thing is designed to control the basic photographic values with tangible buttons. The X-T1 even more so.
The fascination of film? This wasn’t exactly my point. Let’s say the fascination of tangible buttons to control all basic photographic values. I’m not talking about that the sensor delivers film like quality, no I don’t think so. Although I like the first series of sensor better than the second one.
It really comes down to the way how you handle the camera. The less-is-more approach. The retro design and feel.
And again, although I’ve missed quite a few shots because of slow autofocus or because this damn thing wasn’t responsive enough, but I still ended up with 3 bodies and 11 lenses today.
No offence taken.
I think you’ll find that tangible controls on the X-T1 are way way way way more complicated than those in any typical film camera. Even a Nikon F6 is less complicated. And, even a D800 has fewer controls to do a single thing.
Case in point: manually changing shutter speed. On X cameras, you have two methods:
1. change the main dial, then use a sub dial to fine tune.
2. set to T mode then fine tune with the sub dial.
On a current Nikon digital, or any well-made film camera, all shutter speed adjustment, both full and partial stops, are made via a single dial.
When it comes to ISO, unless you’re in the habit of constantly changing ISO, I don’t get the need for a separate dial, especially one that locks. Then there is aperture… don’t get me started. There are 9 different aperture configurations to worry about when operating a single X camera with any of the lenses. This is at least 3x more complicated and less direct than the next worst-designed digital camera.
The metering mode dials: never do you see those in compact film cameras. Ditto drive modes. Fujfilm went overboard in making direct controls. At first it felt great. But every non fanatic supporter I’ve met has agreed after using the camera for a while that it is an annoying layout that is too easy to inadvertently twiddle.
So, the X-T1 is way more complicated than any film non view-camera film camera system, and its interaction system follows less succinct rules than most, if not all digital ilc systems.
In which case, the only reason I can dredge up for love-lived support from fans is that the cameras _look_ like film cameras. The don’t operate like them, that’s for sure. Unless, by ‘like’ you basically mean there is a shutter speed dial and sometimes an aperture dial. In which case, of any camera system with the same controls, the same can be said.
Put the X-T1 next to a digital M and you should beat your breast at how much less the X follows a basic haptic rule set standardised by most film cameras.
I’m glad you love your cameras and lenses. I loved the X-Pro 1, but not because it was in any way film-like. That’s because it isn’t in any but the most shallow surface-only way.
It has a great sensor, great colours, and good lenses. That it passingly looks like a film camera is about as close to film as it gets.
I completely see your point. I think you’ve developed a valid argument. The X-Pro1 might have a confusing button layout and even over-complicate stuff (MF vs AF), and not always provide the fastest access to often used features (aperture selection with lenses without aperture ring), or sometimes even design a special dial when it’s not necessary (ISO selection on the X-T1, however that’s not my problem).
This might be due to the fact that the X-Pro1 just mocks an analog camera, and really isn’t, so it has a unique approach to button layout and feature selection.
So, maybe I’m just blinded by love or I really don’t care anymore, since I can use this camera blindly without thinking. This makes it difficult for me to evaluate its shortcomings in an objective way.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your ideas. Have a good one!
You and this “respect” thing. What is going on?
It’s important to me. Is it not with you?
Don’t want a tilt display? Just don’t use it!
Tilt Display and Touch screen are the future. If Fuji decides to stay away from it for 1 more product circle, they really fall behind (love the tilt screen on the T1, this would be a dealbreaker for me. Touch screen is a nice to have and if done right pretty awesome)
totally agree. Tiltscreen is awesome and if you dont want it just dont use it. the same thing goes with touch. touch focus is amazing, just put an option in the menue to disable it and everbody is happy. i realy realy dont understand why camera manufacturers would go for a camera without such features. its anoying as hell and they all complain about sales going down like crazy. smartphones will kill every consumer camera except cameras > 1000€ if they dont start to make feature rich products that can stand against the usability of an smartphone
what i really would love is x-e1/2 size, with tilt and evf only.
or even, smaller than x-e1/2, no screen, evf only.
I use the x-t1 tilt screen extensively for street photography. If pro2 has a fixed screen then looks like I’m waiting for x-t2.
I use the tilt screen a lot. I guess I’m waiting for the xt2. Or based on the wording, maybe they won’t have a tilt screen but an articulated screen instead. That’s fine with me.
Personally I much prefer the tilt screen to the fully articulated screen. The tilt screens feel much more robust. The articulated screens jut out and appear more vulnerable to damage, plus they are much more obvious when you are trying to be subtle. I can see the advantage, though, for videographers and those who want to flip the screen round to protect it. I guess a fully articulated screen is better than none, but only just IMHO. YMMV.
I agree. Articulated screens don’t simply pop out. You have to swing them out and then rotate them. Then you have them sticking out the side of the camera. It’s a rubbish design.
Well with the articulated screens, you can use it in portrait mode too.
I’m glad Fuji made that decision, a tilt screen would ruin the esthetics of the PRO.
Rubbish.
Your use of the phrase “With all due respect” here is also rubbish. You show no respect at all.
I wasn’t meaning to be rude. But I fail to see how the addiition of a tilt screen ruins the aesthetics of a camera. Perhaps you would be kind enough to offer your opinion on the matter as you obviously feel quite strongly.
I will agree with the OP, though on different grounds:
The X-T1 moved all its buttons to the right side because the menu buttons on the left on the X-Pro 1 had to go somewhere. Because of this, the X-T1 is more crowded, and less thumb-friendly. It is also smaller and its buttons feel the same despite completely different uses; some barely come out of the camera chassis.
The X-Pro 1’s left-side menu was a hodgepodge. AF button on the left side? But that split could divvy up complications between function: menu to one side, shooting buttons to the other. With the current tilt screen, that split is impossible. Fujifilm could add buttons to the left of the screen. But I don’t think they will. And, the extra seams and fissures necessary for the tilting screen _do_ detract from a camera’s lines. The functionality a tilt screen affords is good. But much more thought should go into it.
I guess none was due ? ^^
I just hope the build quality on the xpro 2 is way better then the xt1. Something that feels sturdy in hand like a Nikon f3. Small but built solid. Don’t charge 2k for cheap.
Being able to shoot from the waist, overhead, on the ground…these are essential for a modern camera. To reject this for aesthetic reasons is irrational. Argue against it only if you’re shooting film. It is a key feature of a digital camera. To exclude it is a grand mistake.
What separates a regular mistake from a grand mistake?
Deal breaking for me.
Isn’t that a better word to use, then? If you have to explain yourself, just use the word whose definition doesn’t require additional details.
Mistake is one thing. Deal breaker is another.
Diction aside, I am a hunter of the unorthodox where point-of-view is concerned. I can use a peep-hole viewfinder and prefer it at the upper left corner as on a the X-pro1. And I like the Fuji price, lenses, and color rendition.
The ultimate tool, then, would be one that allows shooting from the eye, from the hip, from the ground and overhead. I am indifferent about the appearance of a tilting screen if the tool becomes superlatively useful.
A “grand” camera. Thus the grand mistake. The point is that not including this extremely useful feature is an error, imho.
I’m starting to experiment that for even more unorthodox POVs it can be useful to separate the viewfinding from the body altogether and use an alternate device as remote. (already possible) This would seem to be even more useful than a tilting LCD, perhaps? Also: Join the new Portland Fuji Users Group 🙂
Tell that to Nikon D4 and Canon 1DX users.
Oh, and D800 and 5DIII users. 😉
Yeah, I’m a D600 guy with an x100s.
I want a screen that tilts. Oh well.
D750.
I expect you’ll see it adopted more and more as time goes on. But don’t expect it on the X-Pro 2; it won’t have it.
We’re talking about an imaginary X-T2 before the X-Pro 2 is even released? C’mon.
Fuji should make X-E3, same specs as X-PRO2 without weather resistant and tilting screen. of coure a bit cheaper
How can it be possible that Xt-2 will be cheaper than X pro 2 lol! Xt-1 was flagship model for Fujifilm and Xt-2 will be flagship again;) Also Xt-2 will have better AF and Image Quality.. X pro 2 is not going to be flagship model. It is under the Xt-2! Learn this.
You are just wrong there… Image quality is in both almost the same. Both model should be equal. Just keep in mind that the XPRO was released 3 years before the XT1..
hybrid viewfinders are expensive
You remember, don’t you, that the X-Pro 1 debuted at nearly 1800$ USD. It was the most expensive mirrorless camera at its debut. And prior to the Leica T, and now the SL, still is. The problem is that it had no market value; within a year, its price had fallen in Japan to less than half, new.
Learn this: The X-Pro 2 is Fuji’s flagship camera. Like it or not, the X-T series falls beneath it.
The end.
you can see it in your dreams..
XT1 isn’t Fuji flagship model, the Xpro 1 is Kutar. But even with the expensive hybrid viewfinder (which l never use), you would think that the XT1 should be flagship model, doesn’t make sense to me. Im still waiting on xpro 2 (4 years already fuji!!!), but if Fuji has half a brain, they should release XT2 along with Xpro2!!
It is not about viewfinder!! It is about image quality and autofocus speed. If you search on google u can easily learn or compare them yourself and you will see the differences with your eyes. 🙂 x pro 2 will not be flagship model. 😉
As l said, the Xpro is still Fuji’s flagship model, regardless of specs!! Its to do with pricing more than specs Kutar, since the Xpro is more expensive, it is classed as a higher camera, regardless of lesser specs. Its an older camera than the xt1 by 2 years, hence the shitty specs compared to xt1! And l know, as a friend here got to test out the fuji xpro 2 already & theres not 4k video, but we do have dual card slots & few other things l probably shouldn’t be mentioning here!
And secondly, the sensor is not even a fuji sensor anymore, it looks like its the new sony sensor that they are using in the a7000, so image quality is totally different than existing trans x sensor in ALL current x series cameras. So really its same body almost, but completely different guts to the camera. Sure the fuji colours will still be the same though.
hello friend. i think you are missing the point. Xt-1 and x-pro1 both have sony sensor too but they were developed and colored by fuji and this makes the X trans sensor. They will get the sensor from sony for x pro-2 and xt-2 and they will develop the sensor and create 2016 model x trans sensor. Also i do not care about 4k because i am paying money for photography. Also xpro is not flagship model i am sorry for this because Fujifilm accept Xt-1 As flagship model. Xt-1 has better features. Peace
you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, X-t1 has faster AF system because it released two years after X-pro1. Image Quality? Actually X-pro1 has still better dynamic range and quality because it has no phase detection sensor part which X-t1 has(if you don’t understand why, study for image sensor and phase detection, they share same part of sensor)
haha:D first of all, i know what it is kid. I am the professional photographer in Istanbul. Second one is Xt-1 hasn’t got AA filter so thats making him as 20 mepapixel camera. So go play your toys or you can check Damien Lovegrove’s videos and learn why he is using XT-1 and note that he was using x pro 1 before years. Last one just send mail to Fujifilm and ask which model is flagship model for them:):) XT-2 Will be better camera. Cheers.
If you are a real pro photographer, I feel sorry for your customer. First, All X-series mirrorless camera has no AA filter, it’s not special point for X-t1 man. I’ll give you an advice just for your job. If you think about your job seriously, study yourself don’t just watch youtube star’s videos. There are tones of resource compared every camera tests and result. And Thank you for calling me as kid, I want to be back young age! 🙂
I think you should learn something kid.You said ”Actually X-pro1 has still better dynamic range and quality” but this is totally lie because there is no differences about dynamic range. If you search about image resource and u will see which one is sharper. Also He is not a youtube star kid. He is master of lighting.That’s why Fuji works with him and if he choose Xt-1 there is a reason which u can not understand. Trust me Fuji knows better than you. You have to respect masterpiece. I did not say watch his videos and learn photography . I said watch and see which camera he is using. Last one is FUJIFILM says XT-1 is flagship model of the company but you guys know better than Fujifilm and say X-pro1 is flagship!! Go play with your playstation.
hahah. I’m so surprised your ignorance. Just check yourself, and don’t bother communities here. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-t1/14
and you are not from fujifilm company. Please don’t use them.
i can give thousands of web sites that saying and proving xt-1 has better iq trust me. Also i can show web sites lens performance for both cameras too and Xt-1 is better.
http://cameradecision.com/compare/Fujifilm-X-Pro1-vs-Fujifilm-X-T1
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53018816
bla bla bla bla
But honestly these are nothing for me! Where i am looking is official FUJIFILM web sites and workers. They are saying XT-1 is FLAGSHIP MODEL. THIS IS WHAT IT IS. Whether u accept or not. You people are just trying to say oh Fuji comon u dont know the truth. Lol. As i told you , you can play your playstation and make a mirror selfie for your profile picture.If Fuji change its strategy and says xpro-2 will be our flagship model i will accept . So pray for that day.
I’m so kind bring images for a deadbeat.
did you talk about image quality? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-t1/17
check here too.
When you cry with rudeness, it dose not mean you are right old baby.
One more thing, Of course I know X-T1 is masterpiece. It’s really awesome camera. Actually I love it. Just what I wanted to say is that your [X pro 2 is not going to be flagship model. It is under the Xt-2! Learn this] is not proper words here. Good day. I’m done…
I hardly ever use the tilt screen on my X-T1, and I worry about the durability of the delicate mechanism.
If you hardly ever use it, why would you worry about the durability of the mechanism?
Being knocked open in a bag, that sort of thing. I’d be happier if it were locking.
It is very durable. I use the tilt mechanism basically every time I shoot with it and am not gentle with it… popping it out and slapping it shut. I’ve done this for 1.5 years with no affect on the mechanism.
I agree with Ben – it’s very durable. The X-T1 even has a weather sealed body despite of it.
It’s not weather sealed. It has some gaskets. But most are made to the very lowest degree of the spec. But I agree: the screen isn’t really prone to breakage. That said, I’d never just toss it in an equipment bag the way I’ve seen colleagues throw their low-number Nikons. There are too many dials and other things to rip off.
I am going to wait for X-T2 before making a definite decision.
Even though in the name it says ‘Pro’ it turned out that the X-T1 was more of a professional camera then the x-pro ever was.
I actually wouldn’t be surprised if in the end the new X-Pro turns out to be the X-T2 and that for a new rangefinder camera people will have to wait for a new X-E.
For the I need the tilt screen for street photography crowd you might want to watch this very entertaining if somewhat narratively muddled documentary:
http://everybodystreet.com/
It’s on Netflix. I didn’t see any tilt screens and these people pay their mortgages with street photography so I will assume it’s not necessary. Just kidding, but I prefer no tilt screen. It just makes the camera bigger. That said I will buy it with or without the tilt screen. I don’t even use the screen anyway since I am old and started photography with film and still shoot several rolls a month. There are some nice photos/commentary in the documentary from Joel Meyerowitz, Jill Freedman, Bruce Davidson, and Bruce Gilden.
I realise you said you were kidding, but a tilt screen has so many more uses apart from street photography. Shooting overhead in crowds or just to get a higher perspective (wish I had had this on my cameras back when I shot weddings) and shooting down low without having to lie down in the dirt or even on small tripods Also shooting flowers or insects on the fly (no pun intended) at arms length to get extra reach. It is a very useful tool. Once you get used to it, it is very hard to do without it. A bit like EVFs. Obviously YMMV.
That said, the X-T1’s tilt screen doesn’t tilt very far. If it tilted down 90 degrees, it would be better. And to be honest, even without a tilt screen, you can still spray and pray. I’m not primarily an event photographer, but I do cover things like embassy meet and greets. Every single time, I make shots overhead to capture a semi birds-eye vantage on the tea or wine-sipping guests. Every time, it’s either one, or two shots. The same goes for the media photographer that used a Canon.
The problem with tilting screens is they make you hold the camera up longer to perfectly frame the photo, and _can be_ more intrusive into a scene. A single arm up for half a second and a flash pop is much less intrusive than a hand up for several seconds to adjust framing and correct for parallax between what your eyes expect to see and how your arm moves.
On an overhead tripod, the current screen is only good to about 185cm. After that, it gets hard to see. If a company is going to make tilting screens in the name of utility, it would be good if the made the screen _really_ tilt.
On the X-T1, when the tilt screen is not enough or pratical, I use my mobile phone + androis app as a remote screen. Works a treat
Wifi remote control is great. It’s not great however when you need it for press or event work. And tilt screens aren’t always less intrusive. But I agree: doing family portraits or mounting a camera and controlling it from the remote, is awesome. Great for certain interior photography.
Hey Fujirumors Guy, (Patrick)
Do you have a running list of rumored features for the X-T2?
mostly copy&paste the X-Pro2 specs list
This is a special camera, the OVF offers different possibilities than a tilt screen.
A tilt OVF would be pretty awesome, though.
There’s someone thinking outside the box. How about this: a reflex threaded OVF attachment that allows right-angle viewing? Otherwise, it would be compromising. The problem, though, would be that a reflex threaded angle finder semantically at least, would turn the X-Pro 2 into a mirrored camera.
Agreed. The X-Pro 2 is more of a Leica M240 competitor. And certainly the fact that the new XF35mm f/2 lens looks a lot like a Summicron further emphasizes that point.
For tilt screen and more digital SLR-like handling, wait for the X-T2.
Fuji is attempting to appeal to both sets of users here, I think; rangefinder, and SLR.
I think it would be epic if the XPRO2 had a tilt screen like the Sony A77II. I know, I’m probably the only one on that:(
Off topic: I am thinking about buying a Fuji x30, and I really want to ask if I should wait for x40 or just go ahead and buy the x30. It would really suck to buy the x30 full price and a few days later they would announce its successor… 🙂
Yes buy it.
I have the X20 and the camera and lens is very good, but the image quality is not what I hoped it would be; the sensor is too small. X30 have the same sensor I believe. Hopefully the X40 will have a larger sensor, 1 inch, M43 size or maybe even APS-C.
There has been little to no news on an X30 replacement. Take that as you will, but your best option may be to rent or borrow an X30 and see if it does what you need.
X30 is, functionality wise and ergonomics-wise, a mini X-T1. Image quality not so much wise I had good quality up to 1600iso, with noise, yes, but not to the point where it makes it unusable. If you under expose your image, the jpeg engine exhibits the so called watercolor effect which is sometimes interesting but fairly often not.
I had it for several months but had to sell it for money considerations. If I had the cash, I would most certainly buy it again. It was overpriced (I believe) when it came out but now reaches decent price levels. It is a simple and handy P&S, fairly small (fits in a coat pocket) and light. to me it was a good complement to a X-T1
This would be a huge negative for me. Using the tilt-screen to get really low and capture interesting perspectives is one my favorite ways to shoot. The only time I even shoot with the LCD on the X-T1 is when using it tilted out. I shoot waist level or on a low tripod mount approximately 50% of the time, so this would basically remove the X-Pro2 from consideration for me.
then simply wait for x-t2. its not that horrific. or if you are desperate for it, buy xpro2 first, and then send it to somebody else and get x-t2. but ever since there is the option to drive the camera remotely from an tablet or phone, you dont need a tilting display so badly. let xpro be compact.
No tilt screen is GOOD news. I hope that new X Pro will be as solid as X Pro1.
I prefer X Pro to X T, when I have objectives from 14 to 90 mm. I there will be some day a good long tele, I might buy even X T.
Patrick,
Does a ‘no tilt screen’ means a ‘fully articulated ‘ screen? ^^
I guess it means it doesn’t move at all. But I’ll ask the source again, to be 100 sure of it
never know ^^ Thanks
Not sure why people don’t like tilt screens? You don’t have to pull them out if you don’t want to. I have had many cameras with them and never had a problem with them. I have got most of my cameras pretty wet too. I would rather have one then not, thats for sure.
I am just looking forward to seeing what Fuji has up its sleeves with the next generation of cameras. If it ever comes out, I will likely become an X-Pro 2 user, as I am still loving and making great use of the so-called obsolete X-Pro 1. But, if the X-T2 came out first with a new sensor, I would consider it.
If only for the reason that giving space to tilt screens clutters up the right side of the camera with extra buttons, I’d be happy for Fujifilm to continue the same style of button spread from left to right of the screen. AF function shouldn’t be on the left, but basic playback and menu items on the left opposite camera functions to the right, would be great. The X-T1 is too crowded and too fiddly with tiny buttons and no differentiation at all in button feel.
If the X-Pro 2 brings anything beside what is expected from three years of technical advancement, I hope it tackles serious ergonomic/haptic/UI issues in their current-generation and earlier cameras.
For me the “rangefinder” style of the X-Pro-2 is what would makes that camera attractive to me. I need a weather resistant camera that’s easy to use with both eyes open. That is a shooting style I find helpful in numerous situations and helps to anticipate the critical moment. Given that style, the X-T1 is somewhat of a handicap and the tilt screen makes sense to me in that platform. It offers a jack of all trades option covering a broad range of requirements. The WR requirements, fast handling with the optical VF with both eyes open makes a tilt screen on the X-Pro-2 a possible detriment to the tightness, compactness and handling of that kind of body.
I fully understand the benefits of a tilt screen, I just have other plans for a X-Pro-2 body and the possible degradation of WR due to a movable screen is not what I’m hoping for.
So which one has the image stabilizer?
Tilt screen isn’t a deal breaker, but the option on my X-T1 has come in handy a few times. Def wouldn’t take it away if it isn’t necessary, especially if the body is going to be equally as thick as the X-Pro1.
none of them as far as we know
Looks like the T2 is gonna be the one for me, I just hope it isn’t gonna be the poor relation of the Pro2. I’m indifferent about the hybrid viewfinder, but I do understand there is a want/need by X-shooters for the range-finder style. Considering many in those guys love using old glass, I think any omission of in-body stabilization would be a big mistake, especially as these are supposed to be the models that make video on X-series finally usable too. All I want in these 2 models is at least parity with the competition. Other OEMs are moving things along and I don’t wanna see Fuji lagging behind. A step up in build quality and a pro flash system is what is needed…
I use my fuji to record my drafting table as I draw. The camera is on a tripod that sits on my desk. I can’t see what I record unless I climb the desk. Or get a tilt screen camera.
I’d love the feel of the x100s, but since I use my left eye, prefer the EVF in the center (or more protruding like the x-t1 but on the left would be totally perfect for me). As someone mentioned, buttons (preview/zoom on the left)! Maybe I’m too new to photography, but I really had fun and got excited and learned a lot with the x100s. Since the x-t1, I never really had that feeling (guess I just gotta learn it better). All features are cool, the 56 1.2 is awesome, but I can’t get my head around the 10-24. Doesn’t feel sharp, images, even when keeping straight feel distorted. Maybe I just dunno how to use wide angles below 24mm (equiv), or I got too used to the 27mm x100s lens. What was so great was getting photos that were a challenge because of a lack of zoom. Anyways, maybe I should get proper lenses besides only those 2. Thought I’ll go for the 150-400, but maybe the 50-135 or 55-200 would be smarter for me?
FUJI PLEASE RELEASE XT2 & XPRO2 AT THE SAME TIME PLEEEASSE!!! A 4 YEAR PRODUCT CYCLE FOR XPRO & OVER 2 YEARS ON XT1 IS WAY TOOO LOOONG!.
x-t2 is due in summer 2016. hopefully it will have stabilized sensors for long exposure of night sky and super slow-mo 10.000 fps at fhd resolution feature. or not. i dont mind missing 4k video if the price is kept close to 999 bucks. the sony rx10ii is, sadly, kinda overpriced for me.
No tilt screen, no 4k, but we are getting dual card slots atleast! Switching to Sony, Fuji has missed the boat!