Finally Voigtlander shared the shipping info and price for the new 42,5mm f/0.95 lens! It will be in Stock in July for 1199 Euro (no info yet about the price in Dollar or YEN). I don’t know if you feel the price is right. But I am sure the Panasonic 42,5mm f/1.2 AF lens coming in early 2014 will not be cheaper!
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For the record. These are the five f/o.95 lenses:
Nokton 25mm f/0.95 ([shoplink 36580 ebay]here one Bay[/shoplink]).
Nokton 17.5mm f/0.95 ([shoplink 36581 ebay]here one Bay[/shoplink]).
Nokton 42.5mm f/0.95 (not in Stock yet, save this search for notification).
SLRmagic 50mm f/0.95 ([shoplink 29455 ebay]here one Bay[/shoplink]).
SLRmagic 25mm f/0.95 (not in Stock yet, save this search for notification).
P.S.: Thanks 43rumors reader Rinaldo for finding the news!
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I don’t know jet. First I need a second new camera body, and it seems I’ll have some options. It all depends on how much money I can afford to spend.
So probably I will wait until Panasonic 42.5mm will be available, and see some photos taken with both lenses.
I already have SLR50mm f0.95, I know built quality of Voigty will be better, as it is 17.5mm, but this focal lens is already covered (almost) by Oly45mm and as I said if I need it faster I use SLR50mm.
I’m really curious to see the first shots taken with this lens, a little bit stopped down (f1.2 or f1.4 let’s say), and see the shape of bokeh at these apertures.
Marco were you moderated again? Only now i see your msg, while its actually the 1st post here. Curious; do you have some samples with the SLR Magic 50mm at 0.95? I know this lens is out of my reach but would love to see some more people shots with it , both portrait and full body.
Yes, I’ve been moderated and I don’t know why: it seems if you put an empty line between sentences it happens. I might be wrong, but every time I do it, to make it easier to read the comment, it happens.
Back to your question: I haven’t post anything taken with SRL50mm f0.95 on Flickr yet.
I have some shots on Instagram but they’re not in full resolution: if you have the chance check my feed @mymaco.
Wide opened it’s soft, softer than Voigtlander17.5mm.
It’s not as great as Leica Noctilux, but it costs 10 times less too, and in darkness you can take nice photos.
As soon as I’ll be back home I’ll look for some samples: now I’m in Venice taking some photos at Biennale dell’Arte, so I’m quite busy. But it’s my photo therapy and I’m happy. 😉
ok i will check it out..oh yes if you ever visit a film festval there again, can you try to spot Monica Bellucci ? 🙂
Haha ok! 🙂 I don’t know yet who will be at the Venice Movie Awards, but I’ll be there in September, so finger crossed!
This is for Mr. Reeese, but not for me 🙂
Yep! 🙂
I’ve had one on pre-order since it was announced!
I really hope the Panasonic will be cheaper, assuming the slower speed and prob less sophisticated build will help with that.
I think Panasonic won’t be cheaper than 999 Euros.. 1200 Euros is what I expect though.
I really hope it will be lower priced then expected. I was surprised back then when the MFT Panasonic Summilux 25mm f/1.4 came out with a listprice of £550. Maybe Panasonic pulls off another one price-wise.
In the mockups so far the 42mm seems to have a plastic (?) Body versus the 150mm f2.8 that looks all shiny metal. Plus it doesnt say leica anywhere so far so maaaaaaybe itll be below the 1000 $ mark
oh please no Leica design, it could mean it would be a noctilux, and that is not good for a man’s purse….
Their Summilux for m4/3 isn’t cheap but surprisingly affordable.
It would be the high time for Voigtländer to make these lenses with built-in AF motor. This added value would make them dealbreakers even for a higher price!
I totally agree. At least they should put a minimum of electronics in it to provide EXIF lens data, so that I have a clue with which lens a photo was taken, later on.
Aw c’mon, learning to focus with your fingers, using your instinct and your eyes is a simple, basic skill… and easy to do. M4/3 zoomed in focus assist makes it even easier. Besides, it’s fun! When shooting in low light, you could wait all day for AF to stop hunting.
@mahler… I agree, it would be nice if there were contacts for EXIF data. Since there aren’t, I use the LensTagger plug-in for Lightroom that let’s me add my own lens info to the EXIF data in a photo.
http://www.essl.de/wp/software/lenstagger-lightroom-plugin/
I‘ve just figured out that my favourite street photo focal lens is exactly the classic portrait focal length, that is, 42…45 mm:
https://lumixchallenge.jux.com/1291870
So if I had an even brighter fast AF lens of my (already excellent) 45/1.8 I would be able to make some street photos with even more blurred background. But – unfortunately – the Voightländer is totally inadequate for street photos due to the lack of (fast) AF ability.
of my = than my
Ever try zone focus? It’s a classic technique.
I use zone focus on the street with quite a few of my manual lenses. 12mm, 25mm, 35mm, sometimes with a 50mm. It’s easier with wider lenses.
I guess zone focus at such wide apertures would be very hard.
+1, I often get soft images even with AF on F1.8, if the face detection doesn’t work and the focus point is not properly selected. On F0.95÷F1.4 things would get even much worse.
Of course, trying to zone focus at f0.95 isn’t going to work very well, but I was talking about manual focus, not wide apertures. I zone focus @ f5.6, f8, f11, not f0.95.
But what if one wants to do manual focus with those f/0.95 manual focus lenses AND make use of the f/0.95?
Zone focus ? With a 90mm equivalent at F0.95 ? Good luck for the guess work !
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great shots!
This lens will be so sweet to use with E-P5’s focus peaking (with VF-4). I will definitely test this one when I can get a sample to do so.
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I’m loving the 17.5mm. Manual focus not that hard.
+1,000,000!!!
You do realize that, at the same aperture and distance to subject, Depth of Field will be significantly thinner with the 42.5mm than it is with the 17.5mm, right? Not that MF will be impossible, but it will be significantly more difficult.
I’d be more interested the lenses had image stabilisation than AF, but the way Voigtlaender (Cosina) produces this thingies is “old school” in every aspect. Result are lenses that feel like made from tank-steel. If my wife allows me to spend my tax-return for another toy, I will go for it…. 😉
To buy Voigt’s is a tad irrational, maybe, but having lenses that feel they will last for ages is one aspect, others are the minimum focal distance that makes it a near-macro, the de-click-able aperture ring, which makes it perfect for video-use and what all of this Voigtlaender lenses have is an incredibly smooth and long focus throw. Together that makes it less irrational quickly. But, yes, the price.
I hope one day in the future they come with a 12er or something in that range.
Both
Olympus 45/1.8,
Olympus 75/1.8,
are just too good.
This really. Its also competing with a ton of legacy 50mm glass which can be had relatively cheaply.
Yes , I agree , is for Mr. Reeese .
What are you waiting for , Mr.Reeese ?
I bought the 25mm when they first came out and it’s a great lens and very well made but I hardly use it. Instead I use cheap Rokkor and Zuiko lenses and I do wonder if I’d use this 42.5mm more than my 50mm f1.4 Rokkor. I supspect that I wouldn’t.
The Pany won’t cost more…andi will be just as sharp AND have AF…..so why buy this?
chances are big that CV will be T/1.2 and Panny T/1.6. I also believe in low light MF will be faster.
Anyone knows if B&H can handle more than one piece at lens premiere? In July I will be in US and it’s not even listed there. Don’t want to see out of stock for the whole month 🙁
I disagree. Most of my MFT AF lenses focus quickly in very low light. So unless you are shooting in the dark (at which point there is no photo to take anyway :-))…I cannot see how you would focus faster manually? I also think the differences of 1.2 vs 0.95 (1.2 vs 1.6???????), are negligable for this photographer at least….but hey, everyone has their own idea?
You forget to add that the Voigtlaender is faster; for alot of buyers this and/or narrow dof is priority nr. 1
And you dont know yet how both will compare to each other.
Don’t forget the power OIS on the lumix lens. Overall that will give better shutter speeds and lower light capibilities. Assuming you are shooting with any current Pany 🙂
This is true,but for me personally,its about the character of a lens wide open, and every bit of opening wider adds to the rendering of a picture.
I used to own the CV 25/0.95. That was a wonderful lens both in terms of its technical performance as well as the character of the images it was capable of producing. In the end, I sold it though because I felt that its weight (410g) compromised one of the main reasons why I switched from a DSLR to a mirrorless system in the first place: to reduce the bulk and weight of my kit. This lens will likely be even heavier (500-600g?).
Now, I don’t mind a specialized lens that I only use every once in a while being a little heavier, but a portrait prime would be part of my every day kit.
I probably just get speed booster/lens turbo for my Rokinon 85mm (change into 60mm F1.0) for bokeh, as I already got a CV 25mm 0.95 invested.
I have an OM Zuiko 50mm f1.2 which I use on my OM-D. The depth of field at f1.2 at 0.5 M is about 4mm. I love this lens but am forever scratching my head at why people seem so obsessed with ultrafast lenses.
Very few really fast lenses have even reasonable sharpness wide-open, so not only is the depth of field barely usable, they tend to be very soft as well.
I never had a problem with the lack of sharpness/contrast in my bar/pub shots. You will rarely do landscape/architecture wide open anyways. On the other hand the difference between f1.4 and f2 could mean the difference between ISO3200 and ISO6400 and that can be quite a bit of a difference.
Agree, and also difference by 1/30sec. or 1/60sec.
I’m fairly certain that anyone who seriously wants an ultrafast lens for something other than gear fetishism does so for a reason. Mainly: there are scenarios where the shallower DoF does in fact become useful, and of course better low light performance.
Regarding DoF, I like doing full body portraits. At f1.8, a full body portrait(particularly for a photo shot in horizontal orientation), isn’t going to be that shallow. Sometimes, good technique and composition just can’t substitute for shallow DoF for isolating the subject. If you’re shooting an event where you have virtually no control over how people will be located and positioned, it’s often hard to isolate a single subject with M4/3’s amount of DoF. In some cases I’ve resorted to using the Brenizer method for shallower DoF that would be easily attainable with a faster lens or a larger sensor.
Other times, you simply like the look.
I don’t care *that* much about shallow DoF, but I certainly welcome these additions to the system. I shoot events and weddings with M4/3(yes I know, what terrible blasphemy), and in those scenarios a f1.2 or f0.95 shorttele with good image quality will certainly be useful.
How many shots do you take with a 100mm FF equiv at 50cm ? The problem I see with these type of lenses in a vain attempt to chase DOF we are being charged excessive prices for manual focus glass that gives us the equivalent DOF AOV and total light of FF lenses that cost a fraction of the price the Nikon 85mm F1.8g excellent performance wide open even on FF comes in at £360 this 42,5mm f/0.95 will give us the DOF control of an 85mm F1.9 lens on FF yet cost us a whopping £1000.The majority of folk chasing this type of glass are doing so for shallow DOF effects those claiming that the reason for buying an F0.95 lens for mFT is to do with shutter speeds and reducing ISO are in the minority.
When considering these lenses, it’s not about DOF, it’s about shooting in low light, at low ISOs and higher shutter speeds… hand held.
Honestly, I don’t care much about DOF, but I love shooting in low light!
The Voigtländers are very special lenses, especially their build quality and feel. Granted they’re not for everyone.
Oh, the nikor 85/1.8G again. I suggest you go buy one and a d7100 and be happy, especially when all you can think of is dof.
But maybe you’ll realize some day how working distance dictates perspective, while focal length and media size determine framing, and the combination makes certain focal lengths desirable for certain uses? Maybe you’ll also some day understand how a faster aperture will allow for a better iso and/or shutter speed, and how those 3 things combined make fast longer lenses desirable for some people?
Those who do work in front of a stage (concerts, theatre etc) have quite a use for the (m4/3) 35-250mm range approx, at the fastest aperture they can get. Has nothing at all to do with dof, and e erything with working distance. Same applies for other cases where working distance will be similar.
Eh, 35-150.. 250 is a bit long.
PREVIEW with samples:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pl&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww5a.biglobe.ne.jp%2F~hu5150%2Fdcl%2Fcamera_news%2Farticle%2Fcosina%2F2013%2F0314_01.html
From translation:
“Feeling good about the same as the 25mm F0.95 and 17.5mm F0.95, quality feel like you are much better than two previous..”
ah, ok. was in the old post:
http://www.43rumors.com/new-image-samples-of-the-voigtlaender-nokton-425mm-lens/
“I don’t care *that* much about shallow DoF”
but you are willing spending that much time for one shot to get the “Brenizer” extreme shallow dof effect 🙂
Unfortunately too expensive, but seems to be a great lens. Probably even better than the 25mm f/0.95. Impossible for me to pay 1200€ for no AF and no OIS. Just impossible.
I’m sure it’s a lovely lens but its definitely a “want” rather than a “need” for me. I just don’t have that kind of money available for a niche lens right now.
i don’t care about 42.5/1.2 from pana. Olympus 45/1.8 is enough for me (i have GF1 also). no need IS for more 50mm lens.
But i can’t wait for 150/2.8 and one thing is 100%, his price will be high!
Yeah, for photography i understand everybody doesn’t care about IS. But for video…
of course.
I am very keen on video and while OIS/IBIS is of some use for run/gun type shooting , I find that far better results are achievable using tripods and for that matter manual focus. Especially when shooting fast lenses at or near wide open. I was a one of the who needs video crowd originally now it is my main use of my GH3’s
Good to see that at least 10% of us have discerning taste! Well Mr. Reeee will it be you or I who pulls the trigger first?
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I used to have the 85 1.2, when I shot with Canon and although it was a very nice lens, with great bokeh, I rarely used it and it was huge and heavy and just never found it’s way into my pocket/bag, when I was out and about. If I was a full time portrait or glamor photographer, then maybe I would have used it all the time, but for everyday stuff, I find 20 -50 mm range much more useful.
same here…the 85 mm 1.2 was my fav lens, but somehow i ended up with the m43 format 🙂
The market is close to nano for this kind of product. 1. No AF, manual focusing is not easy on M43 cameras. 2. The size is too big and bulky for M43 which is intended for small size. 3. Priced like a Leica, but Leica is for M full frame mount. 4. Not for 99.9% of the M43’ers
all voigtländer cine primes, hmmmm 🙂
only 12mm and 35mm missing
your comment is statistically impossible just by polling the users of this forum …
1) It is NOT hard to manual focus on mFT … if that is true, maybe it’s simply you are not able to MF on any camera? Please don’t blame the hardware. Twisting the barrel of a lens isn’t a difficult task for a two-handed human with practice.
2) Size is not an issue. Talk about zoom lenses and or FF legacy primes, then this statement holds water.
3) If Leica/Leitz glass cost a grand a lens, I’d own a set of primes from Leitz … my manual legacy Letiz glass works just fine on my PEN. It’s small and light and the same physical size of a modern mFT prime. And manual works just fine. EVFs and other settings are great tools, unlike a RF mechanical body you get TTL feedback? How could this be any harder than a RF?
4) right back to the start of my text. 0.1% If you are going to make up numbers, as least make them believable?
So a Manual Prime isn’t for you, just say that.
Prime, perhapsp size and cost arent issues for you. I left dslr’s just for portability size cost…
I think this voight is a piece of glass like all their all brothers, but its made for very few people, not every one is able to buy a prime instead of the kits zoom and really very few are in diposition to buy a manual lens 1200€ lnstead of the great oly 45 at 270 or a manual lens like zuiko 50 1.8 or 1.4 up to 20€ on ebay.
what excatly is your point? who cares about their sales…
I dont really know if make sense replay an anonymus….but my point is that everyone have a different point soI dont usually like post from people writing ex cathedra..
Thanks for the reply 🙂
I find Richard and Prime equally dogmatic, but I´m more with Prime here… everyone has a different point is also a bit too universal for me… No one doubts that this lens is not for everyone, but I think at this time point it is more important than another 300$ good prime, like the 45 Oly. I want the best quality possible and if the m43 system doesn´t offer superb quality (of course that remains to be seen regarding the voigt) they will never catch the pro market. (and therefore less lens manufactures, so guess I was wrong, sales do matter somehow)
It seems to me that some people are ranting about no AF, no IS and the Price cause they love it, but can´t use it… well… It´s expensive for me too, but imagine m43 without Voigtländer… As a videographer, sexyness would drop quite a bit…
I also think the Zuiko 45 f/1.8 is a very good excuse for many people to ignore the expensive voigtlaender (& prob the upcoming Panasonic too)if you can live without superb build and/or extreme wide aperture.
Leica Noctilux costs 5/6 times more and it’s heavier.
Manual Focus is part of photography.
Leica Noctilux costs 5/6 times more and it’s heavier.
Manual Focus is part of photography.
Richard,
“4. Not for 99.9% of the M43′ers”
just for mathematical sobriety: If three out of 30 people posting here have stated, that they very probably will buy it – some have already pre-ordered – this makes 10% of people posting here. Not that bad for such a specialised lens. An, indeed, it will be even better for people who work in Video: Everyone owning an AG-AF or a BMC with MFT mount will see that as a more affordable alternative to a cine-prime.
Its ginormous.
It’s maximum f-stop is 0.95 – do the math.
Wow, 10% of people on this website have 1200 euro to spend on a manual
42.5 prime. I’m very surprised…
you never had a job, did you?
Droooool
The more I read about this lens the more I’m tempted and if it’s anywhere near as good as the 25mm it’ll be a very very good lens, and I’m sure that it will be.
My problem is that I can take my legacy lenses with me if I move to another format such as Nex but I can’t take my Voigtlander 25mm with me and obviously the 45mm would have to be left behind too.
To me the lenses are now outstripping the bodies and MFT needs low ISO’s and 1/8000 shutter speed otherwise you’re stuck with PITA ND’s.
Come on Panasonic and Olympus. Give ME ISO 50 and 100 and the ability to shoot RAW at those sensitivities and give me 1/8000 sec shutter speed. Voigtlander are giving us the lenses so it’s time for the camera makers to give us bodies to use them on.
not so fast woof woof, you can buy a very slim mFT to NEX ring and use all manual mFT mount lenses on a NEX. That is something I researched when the nex7 first came out. The sensor to lens focal length is a tiny bit short than mFT … the Voigt manuals would be key to that kind of shift in gear.
So, what about vignetting if you mount a M4/3 lens, one of the Voigtländers, on a NEX body? I would be worried about that.
This is the exact reason why I am buying fast Canon FD L glass instead. It was designed for full frame so it will be useful on any future mirrorless mount. Potential FD speed booster makes it even more appealing in the short term. Canon FD 50mm 1.2 L can be had for $500 less. Not exactly equivalent but close enough fr me.
adding to my moderated comment … a lot of the newer mFT also cover a larger circle of coverage, so the issue of cropping out on an APS-C sensor isn’t an issue either. Personally, I don’t see the attraction to the sony system? But the mechanics are there in possibility
I have the 17.5 f0.95 and is a great lens, couldn´t be happier with it. I will buy this 42.5 as soon as it comes.
May I suggest thinking before posting next time?
I use Voigtländer 17,5mm and 25mm. I use too the Noktor 12mm.
I use too the Canon FD 50mm f1.4.
I use too the Noktor 12mm.
Nothing is better than the Canon that I found on ebay for 80 euros.
Colors are beautiful, definition is clear, bokeh is beautiful : sweet and cinematic.
I only make video film for french TV on the GH3.
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ok I have mine, is the best lens of mft but in manual……