I am still (very busy) working on the next bunch of GX and OMD rumors. I got a small detail from a source about the name of the new Panasonic camera. It is the “Panasonic DMC-GX7“. The rumors till has not been confirmed by my trusted sources but I “believe” it’s the correct final name. Bloggers and forum owners and ebay sellers can now start to create their GX7 forums. Meantime I made a GX7 group on Facebook and a Google+ page 🙂
All specs got confirmed, the camera is bigger than previous models and design reminds the [shoplink 36080 ebay]Four Thirds L1 camera (here on eBay)[/shoplink]. It has a new 18MP sensor but I don’t yet if that is multiaspect or the new color splitter sensor. It has the built-in image stabilization which is not the same and not as advanced as the one from Olympus. It has a built-in viewfinder that you can tilt up.
I found it quite funny that a terrific good source told me that Panasonic made the camera for me 🙂 Thanks you Panasonic engineers!
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Congratulations!
Will the grant or sell You this camera made especially for You? 🙂
And when You get it check it for hidden surveillance 😉
I can’t wait for this to come out! So far, everything about it seems right. As long as it’s not overpriced, it’s going to be a very desirable camera.
The wait is Mind-Numbing… I hope this camera is what it is… It’s either the 35-100mm lens or the XE-1 at this point.
I still hope the the GX7 will get a tiltable screen!
GX7 sounds reasonable as it want to catch with GF & G series which all in 6 & also note that all this are 12 months cycling model , GX should within 24 months .
My concern still on the MCS sensor cause I don’t see Pana can catch up with the rest ( Fuji & Sony ) in dynamic range & ISO performance as well without real breakthrough in sensor tech .
Of course , there is no guarantee the MCS tech can deliver as Fuji’s standard but it still better than nothing .
What is with the odd naming schemes these days? What ever happened to the GX2-GX6? If Panny really considers this line to be THAT different, why not just use an entirely different prefix instead?
I’m guessing the number will be a rough indicator of age across the range going forward (e.g. G7 roughly the same age as GX7).
There have been similar cases of software skipping versions to match competitors so as not to be perceived as outdated for marketing purposes.
It’s also very common for Japanese brands to skip their 4th model due to superstition, because the Chinese word for “four” sounds very similar to their word for “death”, and these words have evolved into many other Asian languages including Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraphobia).
If GX7 naming is true, my guess the reason is to provide space for another GX2-6 to come in future with new sensor but no inbody EVF while the higher GX7+ would indicate the top of the line with EVF?
Thanks admin for not forgetting to include some new news on this model.
Oh I hope it will be multi-aspect! I miss that from the GH2. Some of us are 3:2 landscape SLR shooters who love m43. While I know that m43 is primarily 4:3, support for 3:2 (that isn’t just cropping) is what had me join the system. I was disappointed when the GH3 lost this.
If it’s multi-aspect and inbody IS with a good secure grip on the side, I’ll buy it in a heartbeat and fall in love with m43 again.
> I found it quite funny that a terrific good source told me that Panasonic made the camera for me Thanks you Panasonic engineers!
Well, you deserve it!!!
I hope you are not left-handed. 🙂
Why not left handed? 🙂
Is this the “totally different” m43 camera that the admin hinted at months ago?
apparently yes..
The one customers have been asking for since they brought out the system in the first place?
Just put a fucking viewfinder on a camera, simple shit, not hard, not revolutionary it’s fucking easy. Get on with it capitalists.
What’s with the EVF fetish and people around here ?
Now this camera is getting too bulky.
A built-in EVF is an incredibly flexible and useful tool, great for low light, bright sunlight, macro & street shooting… you name it.
It’s not a fetish like the dual fixations of “pocketability” and retro styling. Not that there’s anything wrong with either.
The main reason of going mirrorless and MFT is the size (that’s why I would not touch the sony NEX with those huge lenses).
If the GX7 gets too big, I might be forced into the Oly E-PL5 … and I *hate* the Olymbus user interfaces.
So choose another camera…don’t deny us ours control freak. 🙂
Stop controlling the size of my camera damn it 🙂
Even if Thom were a control freak, he has the politeness to use his own name, in stead of behaving as an Anonymous coward!
🙂
The notion of “bigger” is relative. Bigger than a breadbox? Bigger than the GX1? GF1 size would suit me, not L1 size please.
“bigger than pocketable size” sounds like a good definition to me.”Bigger than the absolute minimum necessary, given the current miniaturization state of the art” is another workable definition.
Like you said, it is the lens size that matters.
The rumor says bigger than GX1 model and like L1 design. This does not necessarily mean L1 size! If you look at the back of the LF1 with 3:2 screen and small EVF for a clue maybe Pany will make it smaller than many predict and only little larger than GX1 ie wider and similar height?
I would love to see an articulating screen but that would add to size and unlikely as Pany already features that in G and GH models while GF series has the tilting screen?
If they can pull a small miracle and keep it to GX1 size-ish (I remember the GF3 was smaller than the GF2, so they can do this! ) with a sensor of at least equal IQ as the OM-D. I am ALL IN 🙂
“If the GX7 gets too big, I might be forced into the Oly E-PL5 … and I *hate* the Olymbus user interfaces.”
You see the much hated part of Oly interface – only if you want to tune some very fine settings (like for example reviewers often do, why they mention it constantly).
Otherwise, Oly interface might be not the simplest, but it is by far, far the most customizable. And (at least in the past) the camera manual was very well written, explaining almost everything under the hood.
And I dread the day when Oly would throw it away and go minimalistic and simplistic – and uncustomizeable (like e.g. much lauded for its beginner friendliness UI of the Samsung NX).
Well, by definition, a fetish is irrational. I think EVFs are HOT!
Oh, and they are useful. Right. 🙂
You can get an attachment for EVF. Why built it in.
I’d rather have a tiltable screen like the E-PL5
Why ? because it enables you to thrust the body into a pocket without the protruding EVF!
This implies however that EVF does not protrude in the back of the camera as it did on the L1… Let’s cross our fingers since Sony and Fuji did it well !
By the way congratulations once again to Admin for his taylor made camera : this is a huge achievement and Panasonic will possibly owe you future success… Would merit personnal incentive on benefits
So…why don’t you buy the EPL5 and leave this camera for those who understand and appreciate it!
Given that there are dozens of models of very small m4/3 cameras with no EVF, and very few m4/3 models WITH EVF, perhaps you could just enjoy the large selection you have and quit whining like a little girl about the preferences of others.
Thanks.
… and you are whining to my comment 🙂 welcome to the club girlfriend.
Now if there is indeed a selection (however small) of cameras with built in EVF, how come you are not attracted to any of them ? What is wrong with an OM-D, or a Fuji ?
…or do you prefer Panasonics for the same reasons I do, and you insist on staying Panasonic as I do, but somehow your opinions have priority.
You cunts will never get over the jelly baby fiasco will you? Anti Gravity.
Don’t get too excited guys. There are still many reasons to dislike this camera:
(Probably) not weather-sealed
(Probably) no tilt or articulated screen
(Probably) sensor does not outperform EM-5 / GH3
Yeah, right.
None if which is known at this point.
Wait and see before naysaying.
If the rumors are true, it’ll be an exciting camera.
It was making fun of all the nay-sayers, actually!
But here’s one more:
(Probably) no multi-aspect sensor.
Shhh. Don’t ruin the surprise.
(Probably) stabilization which is not 5-axis IBIS
That’s funny. So speculating about things that will be missing is off limits. Speculating about things that will be on board, is that ok? Jeez, this whole site is based on rumor and speculation..
I guess those 3 points might be a deal-breaker for some, but wouldn’t be enough to deter me. I’m currently on a G10 so it’s going to be a big upgrade for me either way. As long as image quality is up there with near the top, the EVF is present, and the form factor is as we anticipate, then I’m all in. Currently saving all I can to afford this when the time comes!
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> (Probably) not weather-sealed
Do not care.
> (Probably) no tilt or articulated screen
Is a definite “con” on my book, but offset by the tilting EVF.
> (Probably) sensor does not outperform EM-5 / GH3
Yes. That would be downer. I’ve crossed my fingers.
I am not quite sure if the lack of a tiltable screen is always offset by a tiltable evf. Depends on how often you need to shoot from the hip or over the head (eg over a crowd – sometimes shooting over the head helps with framing or perspective control too).
(Probably) not weather-sealed – frankly i don’t give a fuck
(Probably) no tilt or articulated screen – frankly i don’t give a fuck
(Probably) sensor does not outperform EM-5 / GH3 – frankly i don’t give a fuck
VIEWFINDER.
Yet, I think these manufacturers are actually trolling customers as they cannot handle feedback and critique and so throw profit out of the pram. It is really fucking simple, just add a viewfinder. Same marketeers probably work for Adobe now.
prefer tiltable evf over tiltable lcd. Hopefully this is a big step up over the past cameras. And a premium camera deserves a premium lens kit like 12-35mm f2.8. I’m in…
I’d rather have a fully articulated LCD over a simple tilty screen or a tiltable EVF. Handling the camera, once it shops, will be the true test.
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This honestly sounds like the perfect camera, tillable EVF! The sweeteners would be as quiet a shutter as possible and half decent ISO, and after using the RX100 as my solo digital camera and being remarkably happy with it’s ISO I can only imagine it will be, so it comes down to how quiet the shutter is, and the X100s is certainly going to beat that…
It’s between those for me, this or X100s. Id rather the least retro looking one, but that silent shutter…
And no shutter shock. Lets be positive and optimistic.
A camera by any name would be just as sweet. Bring it on Panasonic. I’m ready for you to pop my mirrorless cherry again. HA HA HA
I’m excited about this camera. Don’t want to expect too much in each detail, like “has to be a breakthrough sensor” or “has to have articulated screen”. All those would be terrific, but just getting a quality body in my favorite form factor will be a winner. Right now, there is so much positive hype – the opposite of most leak scenarios lately – that I think there is bound to be a raft of angry disappointment reaction when the announcement comes. Get ready to read the words “deal breaker” over price, EVF, screen, IBIS, body size etc. It would take a lot of negatives to be a deal-breaker for me.
I’m hoping they continue to improve the collapsible X lens concept (fix the shock sensitivity). Manual twist-to-open and zoom would also be fine for me.
Regarding the IBIS, I don’t think it needs to be as complete as Olympus IBIS if it can work as a hybrid system with Panasonic OIS (likely meaning firmware updates). Panasonic is already advertising 5-axis OIS in the compact cameras and has hybrid IS in video.
Price is secondary if the camera is a pleasure to carry and use.
“Price is secondary if the camera is a pleasure to carry and use.”
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Wow. Well done Ale! All of the hard work has paid off! Panasonic should reward you for all of this promotion for this system! Perhaps a gold played GX-7
*plated
an “AleGX7” special edition it’s the minimum for all your hard work over these years Admin!
Why 7?
GX7 is in direct competition to Nex7? With specs to match or better?
And we are all so titillated by that tilting EVF what’s next?
Next GX7 teaser from admin: GX7 has built-in flash…(one item revealed at a time per post)
Stay tuned.
All-out #132 of the drawing above. That is clearly a built-in Flash. No need to announce it.
Admin – “I found it quite funny that a terrific good source told me that Panasonic made the camera for me”
Which means they will only make one GX7, just for you. Typical for Panasonic availability 🙂
good news indeed
I will see and play with an Olympus EP5 tomorrow! But I will wait for LR raw support and initial price drop (launching in the UK at £899 body – it’ll drop to £879 and then £849 fairly quickly) … since the EP5 has the same sensor as my EPM2 I can wait for the body to drop to £799 (I think I can wait!!).
Was very tempted to go to the Fuji X-E1, now that Pan will add in a corner EVF it makes that a possibility/probability for a future Oly model too, but if Loan gets IBIS then they finally can compete!
in the meantime I can see what happens with this GX2 (why would they call thus GX7!)
loan = Pan
thus = this
( user error, not blaming my fone )
I don’t care about the name
what a I care about is:
3 stops of ibis
2 stops of shibis behind the ibis
1 stop of dynamic range polerization
3 stops aperture compression
1 stop anti aliasing filtration
an electrostatic shutter
How about 1 stop at the shrink..? lol
i think GF6 will be the last GF. GX is replacing GF serie, i think. that’s why GX7.
Probably not. The GF series is Panasonic’s best selling M4/3 cameras and is where they make the most money. The GX, G, and GH series are all low volume (relatively).
Will it be released this year?
Exciting news indeed. Panny is giving us what a lot of us want. A rangefinder type design similar to the Fuji. A new sensor that can compete with Olympus is needed. It doesn’t even need to be better, just on par or almost there. Panny will have my money if this is true.
Please Panasonic, give us ISO 100 (I know it’s pointless asking for 50) and make it possible to shoot RAW at 100.
Make the base ISO 160 or worse still 200 and you can kiss me goodbye as a customer.
Oh, and use either the “Sony” sensor or one that’s better.
Anything less and you’ve lost me.
Three months until the official announcement. That is a long time to speculate. There is still a lot to learn: sensor, EV, size, kit lens if any, price, availability. I hope Panasonic doesn’t make us wait too long, or we will be tired of the whole thing before the camera arrives. On the other hand, it will give me more time to fill up my change jar to pay for it.
would be interesting if the new sensor was a Fuji xtrans
Fuji are part of the FourThirds group
xtrans is definitely on the cutting edge but the next gen Sony senors may be just as good. There is still the possibility that the sensor will be the same as that on the new OMD which is rumoured to include phase detection autofocus
X-Trans sensors are too slow to read for 60p video and the fastest AF. I doubt Panasonic would ever do this.
What happened to GX2, GX3, GX4 (ok, they got afraid of this one), GX5 and GX6? Where they released and discontinued while we were sleeping? What year is it?
This Fall, two interesting events:
– 4/3 lenses will be annexed seamlessly (?) to m4/3
– a new rangefinder body with top features will be on offer.
These expand m4/3 flexibility. However they won’t make the system anymore portable, or cheap.
That will still be the realm of the PLx Pens and the GF, when size and price are the main concern. Kodak will also come to the rescue with inexpensive cameras.
So to me it’s worth having two complementary cameras: one for the pocket, and the other for performance. There isn’t only one choice.
Tamron and Sigma will bring new lenses. Hopefully this dual tier of cameras will keep drawing new customers and third parties.
Are premium prices for the top tier justified? It will be interesting to see what are the core sales of m4/3 in 2014 worldwide. – hello Mr. Hogan?
Wow – if it has a multi-aspect sensor I’d replace my GH-2 for it. I love the multi-aspect sensor and sensor stabilization would be fantastic!
“GX7” seems wrongheaded, needlessly confusing, IMO. It seems that the lines of “GF” bodies are targeted to a different user group than the GF1 had initially attracted, and to whom the GX1 came as the first *real* upgrade. To this end, I think that it would be better for Panasonic to try to pair the GX bodies with the GH, and not continue a confusion with GF. I vote for “GX3” perhaps (thinking that the first GX ought to have been “GX2” advancing from GF1).
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