I just got some info about the new LF1 compact camera with fixed lens and 1:1,7 inch sensors:
1) The sensor has 12 megapixels.
2) The lens specs are 28-200mm f/2,0-5,9.
P.S.: I am still not sure if the G6 16 Megapixel sensor is from the [shoplink 26836]GX1[/shoplink], [shoplink 16254]GH2[/shoplink] or [shoplink 33624]GH3[/shoplink]. All I got is the Megapxiel number. It could be that Panasonic didn’t specify that part. Anyway, we know the video quality is the same of the GH2.
The announcement will be at 6-7am London time. Meantime help me to find leaks on Panasonic websites like the one on the new 14-140mm lens 🙂
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G6 = GX1 + GH2 + GH3 ; ^_^
I would rather have an LX7 for $290 than the LF1 for much more. I just simply want a fast lens all the way through in my compact camera. If I want a super zoom then nothing can beat the FZ200.
Panasonic is going backwards with the LF1.
Panasonic is not going backwards. The LX7 and LX1 are different cameras for different shooters.
may Panni will have repaired on new LC.
100% correct, that’s why I believe it should be something else and it’s not like what rumored here !
but..but…the LX1 is just a Point & Shoot camera…why are we covering it here?
High hend compacts compete to some extent with low ned mFT, I certainly find it interesting with some news about competing products.
This was my question! I hear Olympus makes digital voice recorders, hopefully we can start getting rumors of those new products here too! (Admin-I kid! You do great work!)
oh…I agree…I am TOTALLY making fun of the camera….not the work that Admin does here!!!!!!
I think this will appeal to a hell of lot of amateur and hobbyist photographers and in particular anyone over the age of say 30, who craves a viewfinder. I think that is partly why the Canon G series is so popular, despite the terrible optical viewfinder.
What you have in this package is a pretty fast lens, which provided the ISO 800 output is acceptable, will be great for low light and even night shots (I know this from my Ricoh GR f1.9). You also have a considerable reach at 200mm. Ok the sensor is small, but we’ve all got great shots from small sensor cameras haven’t we? Of course not shallow DOF portraits, but that’s not everyone’s bag anyway.
The sensor on the G5 was already different (better) than the one on the GX1. The G5 had an on chip A/D converter that gave it better dynamic range at base ISO. The performance was basically the same as the sensor on the GH2, but without being oversized (AKA multi-aspect).
So there is zero chances that the G6 will go a step back and use the sensor on the GX1.
Either it will be the same one used on the G5 (likely) or the one on the GH3 (unlikely).
Actually, the fact that the total (not effective) pixel count on the G5 sensor is 18 MP, suggests that it is the over-sized GH2 sensor, and not just a sensor with similar performance. It’s just that it doesn’t take advantage of the extra size to provide the multi-aspect ratio feature.
Why 28mm?
24-170 would have been perfect… :S
It would be better, but 20mm-200mm would be perfect. 🙂
Cause when you start zoom at 12mm or even 10mm it makes design a LOT more complicated. Plus it needs a really big front element. And gets heavy. Thats why most “convenient” m4/3 zooms start at 14mm, cause its sorta reasonable compromise..
But this is not about a mFT lens
Correct. RTFL (Read the F’ing Label). “4/3Rumors. Panasonic and Olympus Digital Camera News.” Big button up the top.
A bit of a stretch there, Chuckles. Why name it 43rumors then??
Why LF1 ?!
it supposed to be higher end than the LX7 to be just LF1″sensor 🙂
Yeah, LF should mean Large Format. 🙂
Nikon P7700 is already like this, only with a brighter lens at long end. Why even bother?
yep.. P7700 is also 12mpx with 28-200mm F2.0-4.0.
Sounds much better than the LF-1
(Lame Fish -1)
Yawn..
anyone replying with a yawn is code ID 10 T
If GH2, it would be multi-aspect. Something that us 3:2 ratio SLR shooters really miss in the GH3. Although, I wouldn’t expect a G-series camera to be multi-aspect.
The G5 has the over-sized GH2 sensor (same total pixel count: 18 MP), but without using the extra size to provide different aspect ratios without cropping. So the G6 may very well use that sensor too, but without multi-aspect ratios.
Any rumors about a new steadicam rig for the iphone/ipod yet??
lol, do you know what website you’re on?
Exactly my point 😉
“The sensor has 12 megapixels (same as LX7)”
BTW, LX7 uses only up to 10mpix of that, I wonder is it the same with LF1 – then it might be MAR as well (and this way, 28mm at wide is not THAT bad).
ops sorry, wrong copy and paste. It has the same size of the LX7 🙂
“LF1 has 28-200mm f/2,0-5,9 lens”
That is something… Not bad Pana.
“I am still not sure if the G6 16 Megapixel sensor is from the GX1, GH2 or GH3.”
So it’s definitely not from G5 :).
let we think different,I don’t know circle of M4/3 lens( i mean 2-Pi-R ),Do you Know?
and many M4/3 sensor can support wide ASPECT(like multi-aspect) but they do not make e-circuit for extent area pixel.
because extent area hard to read by photoside.
Admin, lasts specs leaked fews hours ago, did you see if new 14-140 is smaller than old 14-140? thank you
Yes, the new 14-140mm is smaller. It uses a 58mm filter instead of 62mm of the current 14-140mm.
Thank you, how about leight ?
About GH2 sensor, maybe GH2 with new venus, so it should be betweem GH2.5 sensor.
SIGH, why not at least a brighter lens if the sensor is so tiny …
I am struggling to see how this is better than the lx7. Ok it has a slightly longer reach but loses the speed of the lens. Apparently the viewfinder is nothing special so what’s the deal?
On a side note I have worked out why panny or olly will not make a pen style with a viewfinder, it’s because if they did we in here and on the forums would have nothing left to talk about!!!
On your side note: there’s a much simpler explanation. The market is not large enough. That’s it. It is coming and indeed will come, but only after other (more lucrative) cameras. Then, when it will arrive there will be only one thing left to whine about. The coming of the E7.. LOL!
Who ever said it was “better”? It’s not meant to be a replacement. It feels a different gap in Panasonic’s line that they felt was there.
G6: There is no reason for not specifying the sensor origin. Unless the sensor is a brand new development or Panasonic would lie about the total pixel count this parameter can easily reveal the truth.
You’re obsessed with sensors, aren’t you? As long as the camera gives you what you need, does it really matter?
Yes, definitely. If G6 shares the same sensor from GX1, there are not enough arguments for me to upgrade from G3.
Lets wait until a WannaBet show comes up where someone can name of the sensor used for each photo shown to him.
admin – how can you know that g6 has the same video quality as gh2? I own gh2, it has 24mbit/s at full hd HBR, while g5 has 28mbit/s – which is already an improvement, moreover g5 has 50progressive frames. G6 has to be better than g5 so you can’t really tell if g6 has worse or better video quality than gh2 until we see official specifications. Pfff…
Weather sealed G6, and I’m sold.
Ditto!
Exciting time for G fans .
Nothing for me this time around , my stuff likely close to year end . Time to take a break & enjoy my GX for few months more .
While I’m in the market for a high-end compact (sub 4/3″), the LF1 doesn’t cut it for me. If it had the equivalent of a 24mm wide, and/or a larger sensor (like Sony RX100) I would have been interested. Not now.
The news here is nor the LF1, although it if had a terrific internal EV that would have been useful to know for other bodies. The news is the G6 and the 14-140. To indulge myself as we tend to on this site, my guess is that the G6 will be a G5 – including sensor – refined enough in the eyes of the marketing department to be called a new model. Which is not bad. The Panasonic EM5 slayer seems to be coming later. I am interested in the 14-140. The old one was on the edge of my wish list but seemed too big and heavy.
Thanks for the info Admin. I’m looking forward to seeing what the LF1 looks like.
Common… I h8 the 28 er focal lenght why yuno 24-150 or like this =(
WONG WONG WONNNNNNNNGG! TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT! I was expecting a f1.8 constant lens! OR even f1.4! Come on, guys! 1/1,7 sensor! That is a tiny sensor! All lenses for ridiculously tiny sensors should be at least f1.8 constant if not faster! I’m sick of slooow lenses for tiny sensors! Tiny sensors slow lenses cameras shouldn’t be more than $100!
LF1 leaked: http://dpnow.com/9176.html
dpreview posted G6 preview:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/04/24/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g6-preview-hands-on-with-latest-16MP-Micro-Four-Thirds-camera
Despite it being a zoomy tiny sensor thang, it looks pretty spiffy. That’s worth something, I suppose. It *is* fast on the close side and does have an eye-level viewfinder. Could be worse a lot worse. It stands out a bit, compared the usual bland digicam.
Specs for LX1 are live over at dpreview.com
Meant to say LF1. G6 as well.
Well it’s starts at f2 and that’s not bad but f5.9 is very ordinary. What I’m wondering is what’s the aperture at a 100mm equivalent? If it’s around f2.8 I don’t think this is a bad point and shoot except for that crappy 200k dot evf.
There is a place for this camera but nikon has sealed the tele end with an f4 at 200mm with their offering in this segmant. The point and shoot that I’d buy is an Olympus xz3 with a sony 1 inch sensor, bright zuiko lens and all the other extra gimmicks packed in. Other than that a tough camera for harsh conditions. I don’t use my xz-1because I just feel the iq is as good as even entry level m4/3 and kit lens.