With all those rumors it’s easy to loose the overview so I thought to share this homemade baby styled roadmap design 🙂
There will be more than just the mentioned cameras and lenses. For example new Sigma and Tamron lenses and maybe a new Blackmagic MFT camcorder too. But this is more or less what I got. I am working to collect the single info and specs from each of the mentioned camera and lens. If you find some info share it at 43rumors@gmail.com or use the anonymous contact form on the right sidebar.
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All the September announcements seem a bit far fetched. Admin, could you please rate them with your FT score? Also, to your best judgement, will the “E-7” have a mirror?
Only one, i think the is good room for an mirror in E-7 😉
I would draw longer lines..
Unless you have top secret reliable information about exact release dates, that is..
Still don’t see how another “Panasonic high-end MFT” could differ to the GH and GX lines.
Use your imagination
They could put in that new sensor with tue 2 stop low light advantage theyve been flaunting recently…
Actually its 2 stops in video mode, 1.5 stops for RAW stills. What’s even more impressive is that it is 3-4 stops better in video ETC mode, which was only good for base ISO with the GH2, but 1600 is now highly usable with the GH3.
I dont get what your saying here…could you explain how the arvantage changes based on what you said?
My comment is entirely coherent, unlike the sarcastic remark that precedes it.
I am not being sarcastic. I really do want to know how the image is cleaner by using ect or video mode over stills. We might be talking about different things even, I wslas referring to the new patented sensor and not something they have out know.
I can’t answer, because “only three” is too few.
Choose as if your life depended on it. You’ll manage 3.
Interesting how the first really professional MFT portrait lens, and the brightest AF-driven lens to date at the same time – Pana 42.5/F1.2 – gets a such low rating in your eyes.
As opposite to Olypus E–7 which is actually a futureless product, useful only for saving compatibility to some high quality legacy 4/3 lenses.
well, maybe because Oly 45 1.8 is more than good enough for many of us? Good, fast and cheap as opposed to good, very fast and veeery expensive.
I dont get the idea of a futureless product. For the god only knows how many 43rds lens owners out there, this new body is what it is, a new body. Now if you suggest the system will migrate down to m43rds once the PDAF is fixed, I wouldnt disagree, but if so, then that is the future of the lenses. Bodies never have any future, they serve the lens owners today, only the lenses have a future.
DSLR technology is not really suitable for such relatively small sensors like 4/3: the body is not much smaller than the APS-C ones and it’s really difficult to make big, bright viewfinders as well.
Even a PDAF translucent mirror adapter mountable on E–M5 (similar to Sony SLT) would be a much smarter idea for those having high-end 4/3 lenses.
I am not sure that is a fair assesment. The e-620 could fit all the bells of an omd and still have space for an ovf. But then there are ergonomic considerations… Buttons etc. Even the gh3 got bigger for that purpose… And it may be bigger than a 620.
Dslrs outsell mirrorless. If mirrorless is for people upgrading fro. Compacts etc… They still need somehwere to go… The dslr is still considered the pro cam. So they would be losing customers from the top while trying to attract them at the bottom.
No… They need more presence than that. And an slt would only work if it moved and didnt cost the sensor 30% of the light. That would he a disaster… All the loyal 43rds users would become the greatest detractors… These are people who have steered customers to olympus products… And customers who have proven to spend money on olympus lenses.
As any marketing sales person will tell you… Your existing customers are your best vhanve for sales and growth.
I have been a loyal FT-customer for many years and I can assure you that I would begrudge Olympus if they failed to provide me with a solution for my lenses in the future 😉
I still don’t believe that the E-P5 will come that late.
Yes the E-P3′ successor has to be released sooner (early May?) or there are more dramatic things to be changed: a new sensor/TruPic VII/faster AF?
Ha! The three I voted for are in the top 3. For me, in order of interest, it’s:
1) E-P5. 2) M.Zuiko fast aperture standard zoom. 3) OM-D.
Schneider is too expensive, and not all focal length are suitable for micro43. But we will see the results of test, IQ…
42,5/1.2 is intresting, but there are 3 important things to make decision about purchase:
– weight/size (I have OM-D and I don’t whant big GH3)
– IQ quality (in comparison with very good and cheap 45/1.8)
– price
Zooms f/2.8 from Oly – intresting, but the same points:
– weight/size
– IQ quality
– price
New OM-D? What will be better then in current OM-D?
Profi MFT? What will be better then in new OM-D? I have no 4/3 lenses…
“New OM-D? What will be better then in current OM-D?”
Obviously, on sensor PDAF is in order (for much better tracking and reuse of 4/3 lenses), and a release of a new OM-D without it would be pointless.
Other, relatively minor improvements should include: better video, digital zoom (including in video), built-in GPS, build-in flash, swipe panorama, multi-aspect sensor (for wider view in 16:9), etc.
“Obviously, on sensor PDAF is in order (for much better tracking and reuse of 4/3 lenses), and a release of a new OM-D without it would be pointless.”
If a new 4/3 is being released at the same time then PDAF support on a new omd is not a given. Why impose that cost on m43 users when a 4/3 alternative is offered. Having said that I would also like to use my 4/3 glass on the omd at a reasonable af speed. But the bean counters may be the drivers not the designers.
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can’t wait to use oversized overpriced lenses on mFT lol , many of the FT lenses although very good are huge a wickedly expensive ( I live in London) . I hope that they find a way for the fellows who have already bought the higher end FT lenses to utilise them properly on micro. I can’t see much of a demand for them many of us bought in to mFT to get decent IQ in a compact package.Frankly if my desire was to carry the kind of weight of the 14-35 and 35-100 I would be looking at the D800 , I don’t see the sense in it.
Considering the 12-60 & 50-200 & 14-54 are all cheaper and havr better iq i would imagine many would buy them.
what is meaning of PRO level,
Panny is define sharper,faster and new coded in video,
Oly is define integrate M4/3 and 4/3
why their meaning very differ!!!
Pro level may mean certain guarantees, such as shutter activations, priority repairs or even better and such. Rather than a mass of new functions. It may also mean a rearrangement of function buttons and some update in capability. Along with the em5 there are already pros using it for work. So the Panasonic capability has an acceptable standard for some types of professional use already.
It may also be an entirely new beast.
Hi, the anonymous contact box is gone from the side bar.
I wonder at which camera they introduce the new sony sensor (20MP)? Can be asumed only in the top models in september? Or even before in the midrange line?
Not decided yet, all new cameras tested with that sensor.
I am very curious to the Panasonic G7.
I really like te G5.
Good balance between compact size and ergonomics, features and price.
G7: G5 body + GH3 sensor = very good upgrade for Panasonic G3 users!
worry about G7 panny talk about redefine G serie
Panasonic has been differentiating its product lines at the sensor level. What makes you think the G7 will get the state of the art technology?
Admin, I thought your top sources said there would not be any Oly fast zooms this year. 😉
Steve, they said no 40-150mm f/2.8 in january!!!!!
http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-busted-no-40-150mm-f2-8-coming/
“Finally a trusted source contacted me to say that there will be no new 40-150mm f/2.8 lens. He said that this lens is not on the roadmap of Olympus for 2013.”
Yep, and not coming in 2013! Because there was a rumor before saying it would come in january 2013. The first 2.8 lens should be close in terms of specs to the 12-35mm X from Panasonic.
why unlike Nippon magazine ?
What is Panasonic Pro MFT ?
The very highend L style camera ?
The rumour resurface again !
I think I need to hold for this , could be my dream cam on it’s way . The 42.5mm is a must for me too .
That L is very very unlikely to happen. The most youre gonna get is a gx2.
Before I get shot in the face. ..I think panasonic is gonna do the corner vf thing on the gx2 (IF they’re gonna do it)and that would defeat (or validate if you think about it) the whole L concept.
The L1 was all about the Lumix co-branded Leica 14-50mm f/2.8-3.5 D Vario-Elmarit lens that came with it. People also liked the Leica RF like styling and the numerous physical controls on the camera. But it didn’t sell well and Panasonic never made such a camera again since. I doubt they will anytime soon.
Apart from the kit-zoom, many of the features found in the L1 can be found throughout Panasonic’s m4/3 cameras. The numerous physical dials (except shutter speed), switches and buttons can be found in the GH series. GH and G also have the integrated EVF, albeit in a centrally located hump. The GX2 takes design cues from the L1 such as the similarly shaped leatherette right hand grip and the tiltable flash.
The GX series can never be a true successor to the L1 concept because the L1 was defined by its Lumix Leica kit-zoom and RF bricklike styling (and bulk). If a future GX camera has an integrated EVF in the top left corner and the Lumix Leica 25mm f/1.4 as a kit-prime instead of a 14-42 kit-zoom, it would go a long way towards being a miniature L1 of sorts for m4/3. The only problem again would be price.
What exactly could be a Panasonic new PRO m4/3?
I think they just want an exfuse to use the new sensor they designed. It couod either be a 20mp sensor with better low light than all apsc or a low mp sensor with low light that matches a ff. With the alleged 1.86 stop advantage and an extra .10 with fewer pixels (14 or so) it could very well happen.as of now the d800 is 1.9 stops better than the omd/gh3.
Obviously many folk like high ISO but considering Sonys lead in sensor tech at the moment I would be genuinely shocked if Pansonic could jump that far in one sensor generation. Personally I like the best image quality I can get so low ISO optimised body would be what I would love a mFT sensor base of 50 ISO combined with the extra DOF would give results as good as FF at 200 ISO in a far smaller package though you would lose out at the highest ISO , though it looks like ISO is the new mp race so I will not be getting what I would like anytime soon lol
yeah before ‘MCS’ new patent ,Old patents of panasonic image sensor cannot produce
to consumer why?
i think this you panny will do it.
second generation AG-AF would make sense
What about Kodak, any news on their camera announcement and availability?
I could be wrong, but I thought the Schneider 14mm was announced for Q3 of this year (July at the earliest) and the 30mm and 60mm were announced for Q4 (October at the earliest). Did I miss somewhere that they had been pushed up?
Well this poll tells me what I suspected all along, which is that Olympus is for amateurs and Panasonic for serious photographers and that mostly amateurs hang out here. Nothing personal by that, just an observation.
Professionnal with a LUMIX tag in front of the camera LOL. It’s like a Nikon d800e with the coolpix brand : Ridiculous!
The tag in frint of the camera is what makes it professional? If I write coolpix in front of the d800 will it suddenly stop taking great photos? Is the rx1 junk because it says cyber shot?
RX1 is a Cybershot? It’s not all over the camera with colored letters though.
Yeah it seemed so weird to me when I saw it, itz small but its there, the cybershot logo.
Would you care to explain how you reached the first conclusion?
Sure, I reached it by deduction. Olympus fans are going for form over function and they are only interested in the brand name and gimmicks, that Olympus comes up with. Panasonic is making useful tools that are well thought out and designed for photographers that care about useful things for their art and couldn’t give a rats ass about the name on the camera.
Hear hear
Right… o_O
Your observation may be correct, but unfortunately Panasonic won’t be very happy if it is. They have not managed to create much excitement with their utilitarian, “serious” designs. The GH3 resembles any other DSLR and is thus often compared to the wrong cameras.
Olympus, OTOH, designs cameras (and some lenses) which stand out from the crowd and are easily recognizable. Perhaps their form doesn’t follow their function as tightly, but they are just as functional as their Panasonic peers. It’s a matter of philosophy, tradition, aesthetics and not least – marketing.
+1 on that last thing, marketing on the whole m43s system is horrid and has been horrid from day 1. Ive maybe seen one lumix commercial and one pen Commercial.
Olympus makes “BLING BLING” for your neck, while Panasonic makes things you actually Shoot with.
don’t feed the troll 😉
Did he say anything troll? Does the retro bs not sell cameras?
I’m on your side. Oh what am I saying? what am I saying?
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Anonymous, What your post tells me is that you are a drive-by troll. You wish you could afford an OM-D, but alas, you cannot. You cannot even afford a refurbished E-PL1. You hate Olympus because they did not price the OM-D closer to your budget of $30. You bought a Hello Kitty camera instead for $29.99. This will suffice you as you slowly work your way up the camera food chain until you can afford a GE camera for $59.99.
What do mean there bean brain? I could own a half dozen OMDs, if I wanted. It’s not about money and I’ve owned plenty of Oly bodies in the past, which is why I made this post in the first place. Jesus, I really can’t believe how stupid some people are. Even when you show them the truth, they just act like they didn’t see it and immediately say something stupid again. It’s hard to have any faith in humanity, after viewing some of these photo forums.
Did you leave out the Voigtländer Nokton 42.5mm f/0.95 out on purpose? Should be one of the most interesting lenses being released this year.
Yep. +100 on that!
So, it looks like Voigtländer is releasing one new M4/3 lens per year. Cool.
gx2 in sept is a very long wait. i cant wait that long for a small and compact 2nd camera. i will get olympus pen-lite soon.
I could give you a bunch more reasons, but just a couple here show that Olympus still trys to force the square peg in the round hole and Olympus fans applaud, rather than say WTF.
The E330 had the same flip down screen, which was then, and is now, next to useless specially since most people use a vertical camera position around 70% of the time. The strap lug that was on the E400 series is in the way of the finger and rubs it raw, with continued use. So does the OMD strap lug. in fact even the old Om film cameras had a similar problem. Does Oly learn from these mistakes? No they just keep pumping out shit to their apparently brain dead fan base and they just eat it up, saying it’s an Olympus, so it must be great.
A strap is such a problem? Mine is still in its plastic bag, never used it, since I find it ugly, and I never complained about it. Heck, even Leica straps are ugly. There are beautiful straps to buy, if you want a better one. Personally I have a black silk Artisan & Artist strap. I have two, the second waiting for Fuji x100s.
This is exactly what I’m talking about with the Olympus fan base. Do you even know what a strap lug is?
“…since most people use a vertical camera position around 70% of the time.”
Because most people are portrait photographers, right?^^
You evidently have a strict approach to photo taking. Stand to attention, hold camera to face, push button. stand at ease.
“The E330 had the same flip down screen, which was then, and is now, next to useless specially since most people use a vertical camera position around 70% of the time.”
I have a e330 with a tilt screen. I can take pictures over the top of a crowd and get what I want in the shot. I can take pictures of kids on the ground without getting down, (which I can’t do anyway) I can and do use it like my MF waist level finder. I have an em5 and I can still do all these things but easier. If I want to go round corners I use the E30 with its flip out screen.
When I first bought the e330, the web sites were full of people who decried the use of movable displays and live view on a DSLR. Not wanted they cried, no market for it. Passing fad. Were you one of those?
“The E330 had the same flip down screen, which was then, and is now, next to useless specially since most people use a vertical camera position around 70% of the time.”
I think you may well have been.
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I cannot believe Olympus will wait all the way to June to release m43 anything. Last m43 cameras were released in September, and since them we only saw 75-300 II, barely a new release.
So? If they can’t introduce substantial improvements they better wait than announce a pointless reiteration. Don’t worry, Olympus is not going to abandon m4/3 anytime soon. Just enjoy what you have.
Thanks, very helpful. Maybe you could size the graphics file so that it doesn’t get downsampled within the website, which makes it look somewhat blurry.
And once again there’s too much unknowns to really say if any of those will be any interest to me.
For example if Olympus has solution for 4/3 lens AF compatibility with mirrorless body that E-7 might well be high end mirrorless design.
I’m never interested on anything just because it got stamped with some sticker, name or generic description.
Don’t you mean g6 & gf6?
If you go by the poll, the attention to Oly is at its max. I am personally more curious about the E-P5 than about the first two, but I find it strange that they waste the Spring season with no introductions.
Is there some technical hitch, or do they want to milk the E-M5 to death?
However I am also interested about the pro Panny, and third parties. Especially those making native lenses for m4/3.
I am also v. curious about the compatibility of the speed booster/focal reducer for m4/3 because it could help towards having fast ultrawides.
In fact if Oly decided to put on the market its own 0.5 focal reducer for OM lenses it would be a dream come true. m4/3 would become a mini FF system!
A .5 focal reducer is pretty much all I need to never use anything outside of m43s.
Voted Oylmpus F2.8(-4) zoom !
But which of these is/are getting a corner EVF ?
Voted for the F2.8 Zoom… 12-50 or similar with F2.8-(-4) is urgently required. Next please the 300mm F4
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Do you think the GH3 sensor will show up in the G7?
A new G7 would be pretty competitive with flip out screen good IQ and smaller form factor to the GH3. They might choose to differentiate from GH3 with less video and direct controls?
I returned my recently purchased OM-D in anticipation of new-camera-glory come April-May, so bring it on! My $170 refurb E-PL2 works just fine for my needs, and I like having the extra $999 in the bank.
Thank you – this is very useful chart
Not enough love for the E-7. I for one, cannot wait to see what they do with it.
If i didn’t want just a little more resolution, I’d stay with my E-5 forever. My one request is that they at least try to keep up with the competition. E-5 quality was excellent, but tech was years behind.
The E-7 would be pretty sweet if they simply added the EM-5 sensor, IBIS, and image pipeline to the E-5 chassis. Parts-bin (with modified firmware) development can’t be all that expensive.
Yes, take a scuba shell, put inside a small OM-D, and you have an E-7 🙂
We nead, mirror, mirror, mirror, @Amalric 😛
You need a better EVF and C-AF though to be blunt compared to Canon and Nikon C-AF was never a major strength of FT anyway. Unless they bring out a high end mFT camera with proper AF support for FT lenses any other move would be insane from a financial perspective.Olympus imaging are in deep financial problems producing an E-7 which would only appeal to the tiny number of FT users , and what price do you think they would have to charge for a high end body with all the latest features { sensor 5-axis IS ,LCD, video and so on} .amalric , is right it is like burying a small camera inside a much larger { near FF size } body it makes no sense
Wrong, the so Olympus need if this will made a realy MFT Proof camera, have not Olympus now, and not other too, but all tech so Olympus need have large cost to investment, not like by E-7 all Olympus need is in store to Olympus already. 😉
Panasonic is losing me this year if they don’t produce an L1 worthy m43 successor with EVF.
wow, there’s a lot of Olympus fan boy going on in this poll/thread.
just sayin’
This is a 4/3 and micro 4/3 forum with oly and pana fan club. What r u doing here then if u don’t like us???
Sadly just as with every other site that allows OLympus fannyboys to dominate proceedings it becomes useless
Sadly just as with every other site that allows OLympus fannyboys to dominate proceedings it becomes useless
Luckily all the complaining by lumix fnboys does make things useful…
Lets just remember, not praising panasonic makes you an olympus fanboy.
Not agreeing to exaggerated half-truths or lies about olympus makes you an olympus fanboy…
Every month the E-P5 gets moved back just a little. Now we have it in “maybe July” … which means in shops in August. Why?
I hope the new omd will iclude a built in flash and fully articulated lcd. These are the only 2 things that stop me from switching from a g3 to the current omd. I know theyre minor issues but i just know thati would definitely miss both of these…
theyre not really minor…i hate carrying that om d flash thingie around just in case
Its not just having to carry that little flash around (Olympus actually provides a small pouch that attaches to the neck-strap or such), but the fiddly covers and the high likelihood of those getting lost when needing that little flash in a hurry (or just getting lost over time).
I leave the fiddly covers at home. The likelihood of losing one is much greater than the likelihood of water damage in my usage.
you must be such a sad little person…
what of that was offensive to you? you sure have a sensitive bottom
Its called a cell phone, look it up.
What about I said tells you I dont know anything? I would like a .5 focal reducer, whats so complicated to you about that statement?
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Its that what you think is happening? You’re “putting me in my place” ha ha ha ha lol thats their funniest and saddest thing ive ever read! You havent been able to answer one thing ive said coherently! Is that how people are put in their place in your house? Hey! Im just messing with you only but you seem to he messing with a whole bunch of people here soooo who’s here more? Ha ha ha ha
Hey! You were right! I did piss myself here! hahahahaha
The “curser troll” is gone! Thanks admin!