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A couple of weeks ago Olympus Europe informed Pierre Paul Lepidi (translation here) that “As agreed during our recent telephone conversation, we confirm that the unit E-PL5 lacks the LPF, low-pass, unlike the M5-E device.”
Now Olympus Europe admitted that this was a wrong statement. They now corrected the E-PL5 specification info on the official website and confirmed that the E-PM2, E-PL5 and E-M5 do have the same sensor and the same Anti Aliasing filter. Source: Lepidi (translation here).
Yep, even big companies can do mistakes sometimes. But I am surprised that it took one month(!) to get and admission of error. Oly, you can make it good by leaking us some good news about your future products 🙂
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OMG, I just bought 20 of them, thinking they had a different AA filter. I’m so screwed now. 🙁
Don’t worry. What do Olympus HQ know about their cameras.
I’m sure some engineer went and removed the AA filter from design, but was afraid to tell to his boss, since he forgot to cancel AA filter orders from their supplier, and so many filters are now lying around in his LAB.
Yes, I remember that statement — and I also remember posting in the comments immediately afterward that it was bound to be incorrect, that the antialias filter is not just an optional component but a key part of the design of the sensor stack, and that Olympus would not redesign the whole stack just for the mid-price camera so soon after the very successful launch of the E-M 5.
My thought exactly! Removing the AA-filter would be a terrible idea. I’ve actually decided _not_ to buy it because removing the LPF would create all kinds of artifacts and moire. I do think we will see cameras without LPF once the number of pixels increases enough. But for 43 that should be far above 36Mpix
Well, I guess your stuck listening to the same old BS at those AA meeting then, untill someone comes up with a better filter.
Annonymous? AA Meetings?
What forum is this again?? 🙂
AA meeting in France, nice !!! cheers in water 😛
What kind of honesty can you expect from the Yakuza?
So even the Sony sensor is FAKE then.
Oh no, at this rate of renouncements we are sure to discover soon that we are dealing with a 2 megapixel CCD! 🙂
This is why you never ever trust what a salesman or a sales organization says.
I wonder how many people saw the extra detail?
TROLOLOLOLO!
Quick find all the Pen fanboys that trash talked the OM-D and how the E-PL5 is SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better!
SO! How many people saw the extra details? LOL
my sources tell me e-pm2 is a medium format. the sensor size is hidden by a concave lens made out of diamond that is professional grade. also gh3 has 4 axis stabilization because panasonic invented a fourth dimension.
It took Olympus weeks to clear up misinformation? How many people bought an E-PL5 because they believed Olympus Europe? Olympus Europe did not retract their claim at all, and Olympus Japan didn’t exactly rush out the gate to stop people from buying the E-PL5 for the wrong reason.
I increasingly dislike Olympus for their smoke and mirror tactics, which are reflected in such classic statements as, “Maybe, maybe not.”
“It took Olympus weeks to clear up misinformation? How many people bought an E-PL5 because they believed Olympus Europe?”
I’m afraid I had the same thought. Right up there with the myth they put out that the E-P3/PL3/PM1 had a new sensor. And that they were dropping 4/3’s other than the silly priced E-5 because they were close to a solution to “one beautiful system” or some such nonsense, this over 2 years ago.
Agree, maybe France not give question to Olympus Japan about AA filter.
I think Olympus France can have info more from DXOmark and measure so show difference on E-M5 vs E-PL5, and maybe them wonder AA filter is reason for this.
Olympus Japan likes to keep everyone like mushrooms: in the dark and covered with s… .
First of all, I agree that they should have cleared this up immediately.
That said… do you buy a camera because of certain things appearing on a bullet list? or do you buy it because of the results it gives you?
If the first then I can imagine people feel ‘cheated’, but, they were buying a camera based on the wrong kind of argument to begin with.
May be Olympus also just know the fact!
“Maybe, maybe not.”
Oh dear, what a cockup. Olympus should be more careful with information because these days every comment is magnified and spread across the gear bog before you know it. Now they are bound to get rid of the low pass filter in all future products to save their reputation. There are plenty of blood hounds who will not let go.
Maybe Pierre had the right info, but Olympus decided to keep it out of the official specs, afraid it might hurt the position of their flagship camera.
This rumor was first published to the world here on this site. Admin with his enthusiasm for all things Olympus. relied solely on this single second hand source whenever questioned about it’s ligitimacy. Stating boldly it was from Manager Olympus France. Perhaps he should have at least sought out and obtained a second confirmation. However in his defence The Oly faithful were more than ready to adopt this rumor as gospel truth. I do acknowledge the great work Admin does here. But I think this illustrates the need for always having more than one second hand source.
OK flame away
Hi Elf! Mr. Lepidi asked twice(!) Olympus if the information was correct and their answer always was yes. I mean, these were direct questions to the head of Olympus Europe. Sorry if I didn’t think they are not aware how their own cameras are made 🙂
Olympus should only let Terada answer questions. He just can’t go wrong with his famous, “Maybe, maybe not.” I have adopted this reply to urgent questions of all kind in my daily life. So far so good! 😛
HuMMMMMh,… after this, maybe not maybe…. 😛
Why flame you? You are magnificent. Have you ever been in a reality show? No? Would you like to?
And what about this Ulli geek with the supernerdy avatar? You guys rock.
Without the LPF, does that imply that the OM-D E-M5 can be software upgraded to get the improved low ISO performance of the E-PL5?
You seem to be smarter than average here, perhaps one quarter ordinary brain. So I am going to answer your question: the Puss14UNot will be improved by 1.25 % with a new Wnk-4Lot.
Olympus is so obsessed selling PEN in Europe and US. If in US they make lot of deals in Europe they make lot of intentional rumors.
I predicted it.
This kind of information or misinformation only fuels gear heads and geeks endless debates in forums. Joe public would not care about these things and the number one thing that affects buying decision will probably be price, maybe colour next.
LIPIDI guy SUCKS!
Heklo there! I could have sworn I’ve been to this site
before but after going through many of the articles I realized it’s new to me.
Anyhow, I’m certainly pleased I stumbled upon it and I’llbe book-marking it and checking back
often!
How disconnected they are from their engineers and production lines… it’s bad.