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When Fuji announced Firmware 4.0 for the X-T1, many X-shooters made the same question of FXF Member Sodela in this thread: “Are there plans for releasing an update for the E2 lke the 4.0 for the X-T1??”… a very Hot discussion, check it out here.
Well, we have a first official statement of Fujifilm France, who said via facebook, that:
“Following the announcement of the updated firmware of the x-T1, We received a lot of requests for an update to the x-E2. In response to these requests, we plan to publish an update to the x-E2 as soon as possible. The date of publication is not yet fixed and will depend on the changes made by this update, that we will define from the requests of our users.
This [X-E2 firmware] is possible because we know that our Japanese engineers are working on it“
Fujifilm France is more sceptical to what belongs a possible update for the X-M1: “I would not say this, but the X-M1 remains more marginal. We know that it is in the study.”
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No problem with my backup cam the X-M1. Works as it’s supposed to do but if they are able to make improvements on the AF it would be very welcome.
!!! Usable spot metering here I come!
X-E2 deserves v4.0!
That’s good news!
Just like I said, an X-E2 will be updated shortly before the announcement of the X-Pro2, to stir up the Kaizen buzz once again.
PS: Whining about X100T in 5… 4… 3… 2… 1…
Well, why not…
Where’s the X100T firmware? Seems like we deserves the update.
Would be nice for the X-Pro1 as well, given that there is no direct replacement out yet.
X-Pro doesn’t have the hardware to support it.
good news!
wow ! looking forward to it (-:
XE-2 was replaced by T1. They should focus on cameras still in production and the top of the line camera is still the X-Pro 1. That one deserves an upgrade.
No. X-E2 is the rangefinder type, X-T1 is DSLR type style. Dfferent market. X-E2 should get a descent upgrade too.
Continued from a conversation above: what is ‘rangefinder type’ VS ‘DSLR type’?
Simplify AF, no hump, rangefinder look a like, etc, etc.
No, it was not. X-E2 and X-T1 are different animals.
I’d like to get the tethered shooting at least.
A nice move by Fuji – it can convince more people to buy the X-E2. I own the X-E1 and thought about skipping the X-E2 and just wait for the X-E3 or likewise. But that can actually make me wanna buy a used X-E2 body. One of the main reasons I mainly shot with m43 equipment is the great AF speed (my GX1 and GX7 have no problem with focusing on moving subject and in low light – I wish the X-E1 had 70% of their AF capabilities). Way to go Fuji!
Yeah. Great news!
I knew the xe2 update would arrive, but not this soon. Looking forward to the new AF system and 1/32000 shutter speed if possible. I hope Fuji gives the xe2 more FN access via the right & left control buttons.
“Kaizen is back” should be said out loud with an X-T1… I mean, a T-101 accent.
do not write off T̶-̶8̶0̶0̶ X-E2 ahead of schedule
Рубль намекает, что пора валить.
Не в деньгах счастье 🙂
nastrovje
All of my German friends like to pronounce it as “nice driveway” ))
Рубль намекает что пора начинать делать работу, а не просто на нее ходить.)
I’ll be happy if firmware comes w 1/8000s + faster AF. I’ll declare myself a ‘proud Fuji owner’
ThT,s what I was gonna say!!!!!
Great lenses, great images. However, since Fuji refuse to implement a PROFESSIONAL mode that is labeled as such, their cameras remain toys for hipsters whose brain slid into their drop crotch pants. Such wasted potential.
No worries, the next firmware update will have an all-new “Professional” mode contained in a Quick menu, right next to the “Contest winning” mode and a “Perfect stock photo” mode. All of these modes will be incompatible with Jpeg-only shooting, Luigi cases and Ona bags. Oh, and the more gaff tape you have on your camera, the better “Professional” mode works.
Mr Talbot, you are obviously not aware of the P mode on other cameras. Also, most professionals tend to shoot in basic jpeg and downsample to 4mp to speed up their workflow.
Oh, did you mean the Green Zone? That would be an amazing achievement indeed! Only the best cameras out there can shoot in the Green Zone. But for true professional work Fuji have to rethink their stupid SD card philosophy, as most professionals still use Hitachi Microdrives.
SSD in camera would indeed be useful!
You’re thinking too small. I want an AA (Ansel Adams) mode for when I’m shooting landscapes and a special street photography mode that is only set when I’m not looking at it.
I know this is meant as a joke, and I don’t think P-mode would make sense on a Fuji X camera, nor do I ever use it personally on my other cameras, but I would like to point out that P mode is actually not the basic auto-type mode that most people think it is when they make fun of it.
It sets the exposure based on the internal meter of the camera, but then, and this is the key part, lets the user adjust the balance between aperture and shutter speed using a command dial. This actually offers the exact same amount of control as shooting Aperture or Shutter Priority, and if you set ISO to constant and use exposure compensation, you actually control every single variable of your exposure.
That being said, I don’t know a single person who uses it in that way or is even aware of that possibility.
However, I do think the one-click Auto switch on the X-T10 is a brilliant idea. I have missed images on various occasions in reportage-type environments when in manual mode because either adjusting the exposure settings to be radically different simply took to long, or because it would take too long to get the settings back for the main subject to be worth the risk. The auto switch is of course not something I would use on a daily basis, but since I rarely shoot anything but full manual, it might be a tool that helps save a great photo once every few weeks.
A very nice feature courtesy of those ignorant people who buy expensive cameras they don’t understand. And unlike Nikon (who fucked up the button layout for all cameras below the D810 in that process), Fuji found a fairly non-obtrusive way to implement those features in the X-T10.
That’s why it is PROFESSIONAL!
+1 for your nick. Else, -1 🙂
x100s update you cheeky fujifilm 😉 there is thousand and thousands people waiting for this update
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1
the x100s doesn’t deserve an update because fujifilm never promised one and they need to make a buck off the x100t and most of all because you guys are all whiners and complainers!
plz update x100s fujifilm give a little bit of love!
I know and disappointment because one of the reason I choose Fuji was unfortunately I have to use word “was”they update strategy or policy they did to another models but as you mention I agree … For me Fuji it’s turning their back to many x100s users already legendary camera they become act as canon or Nikon … Money talks sell must go up … If you not happy update to x100t …. And that sucks for me I thought not just physical design and body is kind off retro but philosophy behind keep one camera body as Leica with update too …
This is absurd. Fuji never promised anything like that. This is all bonus. You made a choice at the time of purchase- they didn’t hide anything from you.
THANK THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY KAIZEN
This would be awesome!
I’ll probably buy a Fuji ILC later this year and would have gone for the X-T10 for the new firmware (despite my preference for RF form factor). Electronic shutter and way better AF are just more important than the form factor. But if this is true and X-E2 gets at least those two features I would surely go that way!
For me RF factor is most important for comfortable fast framing without my nose on thumb and LCD. I tried X-T1 and it was horrible experience with that issue that impact your shooting because makes you irritated all the time.
George, what is a ‘RF factor’? Check out Pen F SLRs: no hump, completely flat, or basically just like the X-E series. I suppose the ‘RF form factor’ comes down to hump or no hump.
Placement of the viewfinder is also useful on the RF format – in the left corner (unless of course you want to use your left eye).
So, it comes down to an offset viewfinder and nothing else? By that definition, does the X30 fit the bill for SLR or RF?
Honestly, I don’t get what is important about the so-called ‘RF style’ when the camera isn’t even shot like a rangefinder. The X-Pro 1? Because it CAN be shot somewhat like a modern rangefinder makes sense of the placement of the viewfinder. Otherwise, it has very little at all to do with usability or ergonomics.
Less of your face is covered by the camera which is an important factor for portrait photography!
Minor advantages: your nose is free so it’s easier to keep your cervical spine straight (= not turn your head to the left) and depending on the weather the screen doesn’t need to be wiped as often from breathing moisture.
A centered VF is slightly better for the position of the arms but to me that difference is negligible.
Good portraits exist from both rangefinder and SLR photographers. It’s the photographer that matters, not the camera.
And, rangefinder cameras exist in all sorts of shapes, sizes, and viewfinder placement. Many never even had viewfinders except for accessory parts.
But even those that did, the far-left placement of the viewfinder came rather late in development. http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/screw-mount/iiif.htm
Good sports photos exist from both manual and automatic focus so AF obviously has no benefit, it’s only the photographer… Seriously?
Yeah, I don’t care about what once was. Today all RF cameras (I know) are top-left-EVF and since we’re discussing Fuji here we all know what we’re talking about, don’t we?
I mentioned portraits because we were talking about portraits. Absolutely I believe in AF. I used to shoot sporting events for local studios and would be sorely behind if not for AF.
I’m just saying: it’s not the _shape_ of the camera that matters; it’s the photographer. It’s BS to say: “I could never get this shot (of a little girl eating candy) with my D800”, because there are thousands of examples of people doing just that. Or, that you will get a better portrait because you use a camera where your left eye is potentially less blocked than it is with a camera with a prism.
It really doesn’t matter.
Do you do portrait photography?
I’m not a specialist. I really do just commercial audio and gadgets for a living (http://ohm-image.net –> shameless plug), but I am hired to do portraits sometimes. Usually I hire out another photographer to do portrait work.
That’s what I thought. Believe me, people react very differently to an X100S than they do to a D800. People skills of the photographer are way more important than the size or form factor of the camera but a small camera covering less of your face is so much less intimidating (especially for children) than a big DSLR.
Of course you can take awesome portraits with a large camera but that doesn’t mean the form factor is irrelevant. Just like AF helps you get sports photos but many legendary images were shot without it.
“…and would be sorely behind if not for AF.”
That statement is exactly proving my point. AF makes it easier for sports photographers. RF or a small camera usually make portraits easier. Both are not a necessity for great images but are very welcome if we have the choice.
The world isn’t always as B&W as your avatar 🙂
Again, though, I see absolutely no connection between both professional and amateur models who are taken with or without Leica or Fujfilm X-Pro 1 or X-T1 or a D800. And even the strange uncles chasing kids in the park at the beck and call of their school’s field trip finances take amazing photos with their massive D3s and D4s.
It is ALL about how the photographer interacts with a person and next to nothing about the camera. Again, I work on and off all the time with professional wedding and portrait photographers. They all use dSLRs as their main thing and probably carry an X100 for candids. Only in candid stuff, maybe, could the X100 be considered ‘better’, and that only because it looks much less serious, so as you’re eating a meal at your wedding, it just blends in. But the same could be said for the X-T1. It’s just smaller.
And if that photographer has a good rap with their clients and people, it matters zilch.
Now, on the street? I guess there is a point, but that is less about portrait photography and more about surreptitious nicking of people’s faces. In that case, and only in that case is there possibly any real, tangible difference. Still, a street photographer with a D4 or F5 (they do exist, I know them) with a great, non-creepy demeanour will go much farther than a creep with any size of camera.
For 99% of it, unless the person is a bad photographer, or a creep, there is no difference between an X-T1 or an X-E.
Whatever… You obviously don’t want it to be true. Just be prepared that many who actually shoot lots of (documentary) portraits will disagree with you.
Jano, I appreciate this conversation. Please understand, I’m saying it very simply that it is all a personal choice. If you prefer ‘rangefinder’ styling, it is up to you. If you prefer SLR styling, it is up to you.
One will not make you a better photographer than another, portrait, people, kids, or not.
it is personal.
Personally, I prefer rangefinders. I own an M, a Canon P, and a few others. The X-E series is as rangefinder as a Pen-F. It is an electronic SLR. If moving the EVF (basically the same as an SLR OVF in electronic form) to the left makes the camera feel like a rangefinder, and that helps you, or another, that’s great.
But it is anecdotal.
Forgot: if you have it or can get your hands on it read “50 Portraits” from Gregory Heisler. He talks about the same thing (camera getting in the way of your face) as a reason why he likes large format cameras rather than medium format. Maybe you’ll believe it when you hear it from someone who has spent his lifetime shooting famous people…
I believe it. Absolutely. Again, it’s just personal. BTW, large format cameras usually require the entire camera to get in your way, and require a tripod.
You compose, focus, then if you want, get out from the camera and make a person smile. You can do all of that with any other sort of camera.
It’s all personal.
I’m not sure why you insist on ignoring that some people just prefer that style of Fuji XE/XPRO cameras in order to be pedantic about true rangefinders. I am more comfortable with that style of body, I enjoy shooting more, and feel better about photography. It’s a subjective thing, not an objective one no matter how much you seem to try to make it so.
The X-T10 looks great, but I’d love the X-E2 pressure grip rather than the finger puller on the X-T10.
What about a tiny bit of Classic Chrome love for the X-Pro1? It’s the flagship model and should receive updates until the next flagship is out.
I have a feeling that X-Pro 1 is just too slow to really keep adding to. It is the spiritual leader, yes, but it is probably hampered by its processing hardware. That said, why isn’t Classic Chrome there?
It would be awesome from FUJI if they would release a last final MAJOR Update for the X-PRO1 when they release the X-PRO2. Just like they did with the X100 after releasing the X100s. In the last 3 years they definitely learned some code improvements so they could squeeze every performance drop out of this camera 🙂 Don’t know if this is realistic – but you never know and hope dies last.
I’d be down for that.
Flagship only in name ! Wake up!
I’d be happy if they just improved the responsiveness. I don’t expect major changes but the firmware still is buggy and could use some tlc while we patiently wait for the X-pro2.
Come on, guys. Samsung is doing the same with even a faster pace!
Awesome. I am feeling much more confident about Fuji as a brand. Very impressed.
It would great if the X-E2 got an update to the wifi; to connect directly to the Instax Printer!
Which actually begs the question: why isn’t there a basic firmware across all cameras that is updated for new functionality, specifically targeted at each hardware model? Think smartphones: your iPhone 4S/5/6 get new firmware/functionality at the same time. The only hitch is if the hardware can or cannot support it.
That today’s modern 100% computerised cameras aren’t as friendly or actively developed is puzzling.
X100s users are not whiners. For a premium prized camera it has only seen minor updates. The biggest one being able to use the converters, which of course is of great interest to Fuji film as it means more money for them. I for one would like to be able to:
Assign more fn buttons.
Customize the Q menu.
Use Classic Chrome.
And maybe updated AF algorithms making it possible to shoot in low light, which my 8 year old low prize DSC-P200 is better at.
Bring on the flamers!
Fully agree, though I’d add EC working in manual mode, direct access to AF points, “EVF only & eye-sensor” and an option to keep the EVF cover from repeatedly sliding in and out.
And I’d gladly pay 50 bucks for that.
shame on you for expecting Fuji to hand deliver things that you could just pay $1299 for on the X100T!
Great news – a tilting screen please? 🙂
Good news. I hope in these improvements:
* Electronic shutter
* Direct AF point selection
* Direct Instax printing (I’ll buy Instax printer then)
* Better face detection (with eye priority)
* Better JPEG engine for high ISO (3200+) to avoid plastic faces (rather noise than plastic face)
* AF improvements from X-T1
This has nothing to do with Kaizen.
Kaizen is an approach internally within an organization to constantly minimize waste. So within the Fuji accounting department they may find a way to minimize a workflow step around a specific report or form- that is Kaizen. In production, they may find a way to better utilize existing raw materials- that is Kaizen.
Fixing or enhancing an already shipped product that is now owned by the consumer has nothing to do with kaizen. It does not eliminate waste or improve efficiency within the organization; if anything it’s the opposite, since it costs additional time and materials and effort to perform the after-sale support.
Using Japanese terms may make us sound clever, but it’s better to know what we’re saying.
Fuji marketing threw the true meaning of kaizen under the bus when they deliberately associated the (obviously completely unrelated) term with the much vaunted X100 updates
Fuji never said this was Kaizen.
of course they didn’t. but they threw the word around like it was some hot new company philosophy and it naturally became synonymous with firmware update. They sure as hell didn’t do anything to stop this perception. It’s annoying as shit to see the word kaizen continually dropped left and right the way that it is, and nobody but fuji is to blame.
well, good job fuji marketing, it sure as fuck left an indelible mark on public perception and people will never stop perceiving Fuji ‘Kaizen’ as Fuji ‘FW UPDATES GALORE’. i swear we are going to see this till the day Fujifilm shuts down their camera division
Yes Please….
Thanks a lot to Fuji.
That’d be a surprise to me, I won’t expect much, simply because it’s on an older processor, but anything is welcome 🙂
Same processor used in the xt-1 dude….
x100s : KAIZEN stinks – no new firmware… almost same hardware as x100t. Shame on You lazy FujiFilm… shame…
It is people like you who deserve no update. Kaizen is not a right, it’s a bonus. When you bought the camera you saw the bullet points on what it could do, could read reviews and make a choice accordingly.
Lazy FujiFilm stinks
Raist3d got it right. And repeating the same nonsense does not make it magically become clever or rigth
Do you really think Fuji does this firmware upgrades to please their customers and win their loyalty? They do it to hold their cameras longer on the market without the need to release a new model every year (as they have not the same financial power like CaNikon to produce many new models yearly), they are not a charity organization. With the new X-T1 firmware they can push the sales again, and a X-E2 update with the most important changes from X-T10 would make the same, so they can sell it longer. There is no need for a X100S firmware when X100T is on the market, and it is worth the upgrade for S users. Also there is no need to update X-E1 or X20 who already have a successor, and X-Pro1 which will be succeeded this year (and this bumbling cumbersome “flagship” really can´t expect something more than small revisions).
Surely this “lazy” Fujifilm feels ashamed for their X100T sales…
The original X100 was part of the first generation of Fuji mirrorless designs, which were more ‘promise’ than ‘camera’. What X100 users demanded – and received through firmware updates – was a working camera. They didn’t receive an X100s ‘lite’; they got their X100 working as it should have done from day one.
By way of contrast, the X100s was a fully realised camera from the outset, and firmware upgrades were more about minor updates than massive functionality improvements. What some X100s users demand today is an X100t ‘lite’.
As an X100s user, I would love to see some of the extra features in the next generation X100t filter back to my current camera. If they arrived as a gift from Fuji, I’d be more than happy about this, but anything else is petulance.
At least it’ll keep the whiners quiet.
And that’s not how ‘kaizen’ is used. Kaizen can’t be ‘back’. That’s like saying “Do unto others as you would have them do to you HAS RETURNED!”.
I’m still one of those who was pissed about the lack of X100S update. Finally, did what they wanted and bought the T. Thought I’ve just made a crazy buy, ended up that – OMG – it’s simply another camera. Prob. the best I’ve owned in this category. I think an update could improve some things, but never even come close to the T. The new VF layout (font, arrangement) the EVF frame rate, so many things. I couldn’t recommend more the upgrade. The T – to me – is the real step forward from the first X100.
Wait, I’ll add 1 more. Fix the damn battery issue. Reloading 4 batteries in a 2-hour event is no fun. Very frustrated.
By a firmware update? 🙂
That was a tongue in cheek comment, nice one at that ☺
That’s an interesting point from Fuji France, however the original declaration (I’m French !) adds so many conditions that it is unlikely to happen.
The X E2 I bought last saturday has the latest firmware and it is a very competent camera. The only add on I wish: assigning one of the function button (Fn or Fn2) to the menu used when legacy lenses are mounted such as my R Reflex Lenses.. But is a detail.
I think a lot of energy is lost to complaining instead of taking pictures… why did you even bother to buy a Fujifilm in the first place?
Of course I’d love to have the new focus system and other features in my X-E2 but my photograpic life does,nt depend on it!
But hey, my X-E2 still works as perfectly now as it did when I bought it 1,5 year ago. I tried to read about all the pros and cons before I bought it so I knew what to expect when I ditch my Canon 5D2 and all the L’s… did’nt you do that?