Fujirumors’ window to CP+: DAY 3
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Dpreview posted some hands on photos will all the unreleased lenses in the roadmap… and some information:
– XF 35mmF2: faster AF than the 35mmF1.4 – weather sealing not confirmed – available last quarter of 2015
– XF 120mmF2.8: will have OIS – WR still unconfirmed – focus limiter – available 2016… and I can’t see any tripod mount in the pictures
– XF 16mmF1.4: coming soon – AF speed similar to 23mmF1.4
– XF 100-400: not the final design
I repost also an updated version of the new roadmap. In the previous versions there was a bit of confusion, because Fujifilm ordered the lenses from left to right according to their focal length, and not their estimated release time… making the time indication much more vague. Well, now in this roadmap, you can see the lenses ordered more clearly, this means with the horizontal position showing the release time.
So we can see that:
– XF 16mmF1.4 & XF 90mmF2 should come in the first half of 2015
– XF 35mmF2 somewhere around next fall (right in time for the X-PRO2??)
– XF 100-400 early 2016
– XF 120mmF2.8 1:1 Macro around spring 2016
FujifilmXworld published another teaser of the unreleased lenses. This time it’s about the big brother of the XF 60mmF2.4.
“XF Lens has the half macro lens XF60mmF2.4 R and recently added macro extension tube in the lineup. And we will soon have the 1:1 Macro lens XF120mmF2.8 R Macro as the latest addition.
This lens will be like a big brother of XF60mm, and XF60mm has the highest resolution capability among any XF lenses, so you can expect a lot from this lens. Start counting days for the release in 2016.”
Sweet Fuji 😉 – via fujixseries Japan
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X-Pro 2 Monochrom…. is all I say. And a bigger sensor, of course. Paired with the awesomeness of the X200 FF Monochrome. 🙂
If Fuji releases a monochrome camera, I’m buying it.
Me too, but only if it’s rangefinder style.
Why so picky? I’d gladly pay for a Fuji certified monochrome mod to my X-T1.
I’d rather shoot Raw (in color) and have more control over the conversion. That’s the downside of the Leica Monochrom – with a color Raw file, you have more info to work with in the B&W conversion process. You can make the reds lighterer, the blues darker, etc. This is obviously not possible with black and white Raw files.
In general the M-Monochrom is a bit of a gimmick, albeit a clever one, and one I’d probably buy if I had tons of money; but it really doesn’t enable you to do anything you could not do with a “color” Leica M.
A Fuji monochrome camera would be the same.
Everyone has to have an opinion on everything, right?
The resolution of a bare sensor is visibly higher than that with CFA, especially the pixel level contrast makes all the difference. Check astrophotography forums on the sensor conversion topic for example.
Yes, you have to know what you’re doing to shoot BW strait from the sensor. Marketing gimmick – definitely not.
Agreed. Also, night time shooting under sodium vapor lights, with a color sensor, say bye bye to detail.
That indeed is one situation where I’d like to have a Fuji Monochrome.
I’m not paying $8k for the Leica though.
Sorry to express an opinion on a camera forum! I just meant that when doing digital B&W it’s actually quite helpful to have color channels to work with, and you can’t do that with a M-Monochrom or an imaginary Fuji Monochrome.
Yes, that’s what we’re all doing today and, for some like me, it’s kinda boring. I just miss my tri-x days. Was fun using yellow, orange, red, green & blue filters. Would be great if the option were still available today without the resolution penalty that the color filtration array (CFA) imposes.
The M-Monochrom is a means to facilitate higher ISOs on a CCD sensor. There is some magic with the CCD. No matter what the naysayers may think, the M-Monochrom works extremely well with legacy lenses from 50-60s.
Surprisingly, the M-Monochrom sells extremely well in the market and has kept value better than the Leica M240. This is rather odd as the M240 was designed with the mass market in mind and yet a niche product carries better value.
However, doing Monochrom on a CMOS sensor which is Leica’s next step may not have as much point.
Just switch on monochrome film sim
I like the idea but honestly the market is very small for it.
Well, look at the insanely priced Leica M Monochrom. The sales went through the roof. And with a modestly priced X-Pro Monochrom … even more people would go for it. Hopefully Fuji listens. And get rid of the video mode in such a model.
Shouldn’t be too difficult to release two versions of the same camera, why not. Still don’t get the no video thing though, that’s just silly. When a video-capable sensor is used that is, makes no sense to remove it on purpose.
To keep it simple. These cameras aren’t great at video anyway, and a lot of photographers will never, ever use the video feature. That record button on the X-T1 was super annoying until the new firmware let you disable it.
true that.
Of course, the button i agree with, should always be a Fn button. (though a fixed rec button’s not nearly as bad as Panasonic’s Ai button!)
Anyway, it’s the being against video so much that one doesn’t even want (or want others to have) the capability is a mystery to me.
I don’t really use the video on my X100 at all, but i would hate to lose the capability altogether for no real reason. It’s never ever gotten in the way, and who knows when i might need it .. i can think of plenty times i might, so why the heck not just let it be.
It it was really profitable Nikon and Canon would certainly have already done it. On the bright side, such a camera would give people a reason to use those old color filters…
awesome… but I’ll be a poor man by the end of the year…
Macro “mosters”? 😀 The “N” has been scared and run away.
Why is nobody saying something about the 90mm? According to the roadmap, this will be the one coming after the 16mm. And also, at CP+, Fuji writes that it is not under development anymore (see cards of the lenses)
Still no mock ups of the x-pro2?
I’m baking it now for you guys ! With IBIS, so you can shake it without any problems !
180mm (35mm equ.) 2.8 1:1 AND OIS … wow! Hello Nikon where are you ?
I’m in 😉
and the teleconverter will work with it too. that makes it 250mm (35mm equ.) Macro 🙂 🙂 🙂
Or 1.4:1 reproduction ratio
Bit it’s not 35equ 2.8 is it.
Fujicake cracked me up. What’s next, an Instax Share toaster?… ))
looks a very organic FF sensor 😉
Organic and monochrome. For some that’ll be the über camera 😉
Sure we’ll just use color filters to shoot color like NASA, that’s how the real pro’s do it! Just make sure you bring a tripod.
Lol, i’m sorry but the roadmap ‘time indication much more vague’!?
This chart time is left to right, the other chart is top to bottom .. what a mystery! ^.^
Imho the other one looks better and actually shows the focal length range, this one just has useless lines shooting out of it. -_-
For reference: http://fujifilm-x.com/xf-lens/en/about/roadmap/
maybe I’m simply used to the good old roadmap layout, and, at least for me, it’s easier to understand when the lenses will be released… for me, and for dicahub: http://dicahub.com/2015/02/12/%ED%9B%84%EC%A7%80%ED%95%84%EB%A6%84-%EA%B0%B1%EC%8B%A0%EB%90%9C-2-%EA%B0%80%EC%A7%80-%EB%A0%8C%EC%A6%88-%EB%A1%9C%EB%93%9C%EB%A7%B5-%EA%B3%B5%EA%B0%9C-%EB%B0%9C%ED%91%9C-%EC%98%88%EC%83%81-%EC%8B%9C%EA%B8%B0-%ED%8F%AC%ED%95%A8
I get that, but you’ve had a second look. Don’t tell me you still don’t see it?
My Fuji I still wait for:
WR X-E3 with larger EVF (not bigger body)
24MP bayer
-2EV AF
all PDAF points + fast manual selecting
true 6400iso (not cheated – it’s 4000iso now)
1/6000s at least
dedicated Back-AF
tilt-angle LCD (for low steet shooting)
allow to set NR to OFF
all buttons customisable
and new lineup of small primes: WR 35/2 + WR 56/2 + WR 23/2, and later 16/2
Then I am in and will sell D750 with four G1/8 primes
OK, see you later!
I will continue shooting with my X-Pro 1 (and DP Merrills) until finally the X-Pro 2 comes out. Until then, my X-Pro 1 will do me fine, as the image quality is sufficient. While Fuji’s ISO settings may be off, as many suggest, the files are still very clean.
I think we are spoiled now ~ 4 years ago, when I got into photography, the images from my Canon DSLR were useless at ISO 1600. So, even if Fuji’s ISO 6400 is basically ISO 4000, it is still usable, and a significant improvement over cameras of the past.
People need to stop complaining. When our skills surpass the capabilities of our cameras, then I guess we can complain. But, I highly doubt that is the case for most of complainers online ~ judging by images I see in groups on Flickr or on other photo-sharing sites. People keep talking about how great the full frame sensors are in the A7 Series (which is likely true), and that they blow everything else away (highly doubtful, especially with compressed RAW files and shutter vibration issues), it is difficult to find great photos taken with them online. So, even though people are asking for the next best camera and more megapixels, I highly doubt that is necessary for most users (kind of like golf equipment ~ the pros take advantage of new technology (it is very noticeable), but it is hard to see if it makes much of a difference for most recreational golfers, including myself).
By the way, I do agree with your points in many ways: I would like 1/8000s, ability to turn off noise reduction, a 24mp Bayer sensor (without an AA filter), etc. However, the X-Series cameras are still very nice in many ways. I just linked the above comment to you because of your comment about ISO (which is valid, but I think overblown by many).
Thanks for your comment. I often shot people at 3200-6400iso in lower light with fully opened aperture so iso accuracy and AF performance is most important to me. With current Fuji cams that focus only 0EV is a big challange. I hope X-E3 will focus at least -2EV and wil have dedicated Back-AF buton placed near the thumb (not at the edge of the body). I made from X-E2 20×30″ prints, so I know what this camera can offer, but there were times that I have to crop and was jealous of Sony A6000 which offers it. Fuji cams are great but some important features are so so and average – especially AF with its 0EV, weak customisable options and buttons, and only 1/4000s. Sony A7000 will probably be High End Sony’s APS-C, so Fuji needs to put in X-E3/X-Pro2 very good features and AF.
What is a Macro “Moster?” Never heard of that word before.
Surely not a real road map where a maker lets you see what is planned even before development starts. Look at 2015 and only 2 lenses planned for 2016? So what are those lens designing engineers going to be doing? Do their skills transfer to designing the new cameras in the line up? Probably not much. First inkling that Fuji might be planning a new format for real? Not that I am in favor of that. What I would like to see is the same kind of complete system you get for a Nikon or Canon, but for APS.
So the 1.4X teleconverter would make the XF 55-200mm the equivalent of 115.5-420mm in full frame?
Unfortunately It isn’t compatible with that lens.
Dang, I love the look of that 35 f/2 in silver, but it’s too bad my X-Pro 1 is black! I might just have to wait until the X-Pro 2 comes out (if it does, that is). Hopefully, they are planning a silver paint scheme in addition to the black (like with the new cameras).
Yes, that would be nice. I am hoping the X-Pro 2 will finally come out late this year. And, hopefully, the wait is for the organic sensor, as the boost in dynamic range would be fantastic. While I have the 35mm f/1.4 already, and love it, I would consider the f/2 version as a kit lens combo with the X-Pro 2, as it looks pretty nice.
Yes i think they’ve given themselves no choice but to offer the X-Pro2 in silver/chrome/graphite as well!
And definitely agree about the 35/2 in silver. Really hope they would redesign a 35/1.4 II in the same style! In addition to matching AF performance.
Wow, Do we need another load of new glass…? Does the market really expects Fuji to cover every focal length and zoom possible? So many overlaps, similarities, short: a quite excessive niche filling. It won’t take long or we see the same panic reaction as people that just bought a new Canon or Nikon… “which lens do we have to buy now”?
That’s fantastic! I like your too many lenses critique. Balances the not enough lenses that is usually on here.
Actually, I think Fuji are in almost the opposite boat to Sony – they have a large amount of stellar lenses and could do with moving the body/sensor tech forward now to make the most of them. I really do think they should consider dropping X-Trans unless they can work with Adobe to really solve the demosaicing – as of the latest LR release, I still can’t get green grass/foliage to look like anything but an oil painting.
if you aren’t already, you should become a Sony camera user, then you won’t have to worry about having too many choices in lenses….
Moster is a perfectly cromulent word.
Very embiggening of you
The roadmap only stretches to the first half of 2016, and I’m not sure if you’re trying to say that they have things on there that haven’t started development?
OMG OMG OMG… I’m starting to put away my dollars for this one. And I don’t care how big this macro lens is… it’s gonna be AWESOME!
Very likely those lens designing engineers do not work solely for Fuji’s photo imaging division – they also design lenses for the cinema, and also for the Health Research division . Fujifilm is a large company.
And we are very very close to a complete system aren’t we ? What’s missing ? a few lens (tilt/shift, 300mm fixed lens) and a refresh on some bodies (X-PRO most notably, may be an X-E3)
Lens line up is starting to look complete, finally a real macro!
There seem to be a lens option for everybody… almost…
Well done Fuji, cant wait for silver XPro2 and maybe a “real” update to entry level bodies.
Is the 120mm macro internal focusing ?
I’m not counting the days until the 120mm release date, I’m counting the MINUTES!!
is the new 35mm matching with the X-T1 graphite? I don’t really understand why they can’t match up all the silver options in the Fuji line up, be it body or lenses.