I got this from a source:
Two filmmakers who sat down with a group of officials from Olympus “xxxx”. They said, the M5 mii would be a first and that they are waiting for the response from user, they also made it very clear that the M1 would remain their top model and that upcoming (firmware) updates will also make it very clear that the M1 is the first choice for video as well. 4K will be coming in the foreseeable future they are aware of the need for it, wether in a new model or via firmware, they did not state.
Makes a lot of sense to me.
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> They said, the M5 mii would be a first …
> made it very clear that the M1 would remain their top model
> Makes a lot of sense to me.
Sorry but not much sense to me
I take it that the E-M5 II is the first with some new tech & some features will be possible by firmware updates in the E-M1, others will be improved on & used to a greater degree in a following E-M1 model.
That sound a little like bullshit
Still nothing for E-M10? :/
What’s wrong with it? Are you expecting top model features to be added to your entry level model? The E-M10 was first to get the Live Composite & we got that later on the E-M1. Does that trouble you?
They are adding new stuff to M1, M5II. I’m not saying that they should be like Fuji… I think they might find some place for improvement.
They are adding stuff to the E-M1 firstly because it is the top Pro model & also they are adding something to the E-M5 II because there is an underwater housing for it AND to use the two new lenses 7-14 & 8mm fisheye. On the other hand, you have an entry level model that has a lot of wonderful features already & was first to have the Live Composite feature which they later gave to the E-M1 (& it came on the E-M5 II), so what is your problem? You have an entry level camera which is a lower price so it is not necessarily going to get all the updates the E-M1 is going to get. If you wanted something better, then pay for it like the rest of the E-M1 owners had to. Sorry, but I feel like I’m repeating myself here. Oh look! I am too! 😮
Oh look! Just don’t be an ass ( | ). I’m just saying it would be cool if they added some stuff to E-M10. Electronic shutter? (if it’s possible) There is no way that there is no place for improvement. They still sell this entry level camera so why now keep it up to date?
Oh…so…the M1 will get the hi-Rez sensor shift technology, too! Via firmware update.
This is awesome! ( I am being sarcastic..I am certainly not expecting that. It’s the only improvement I would like to see. I shoot stills only…don’t need or care about a video update on my M1).
I think that’s marketing bullocks. They can’t replace the IS via firmware. Also I seriously doubt that they even power up video codec and debayering via firmware
There is still a lot unused processing power in the E-M1. This leaves headroom to improve video (maybe even 4K) with the class leading IS from Olympus. Not the improved IS from the E-M5 II, obviously
So we’re finally getting improved video? Would be nice to be at least on par with the E-M5II in terms of fps and video codec bitrate.
I’d be very surprised if they even managed to fix 1080p in order to provide half decent sharpness/resolution, let alone 4K…
And in FW they say, go believe!
My dinosaur (almost 5y old) GH2 still kicks the shiit out of the E-M1.
A new codec built on the greenfield would help them a lot.
Their problem isn’t in the codec. The codec was much improved and the bitrate is more than reasonable.
Their problem is with the sensor readout. They are subsampling heavily, so we cannot expect the codec to perform a miracle when the resolution simply isn’t there to begin with.
There is no way to address such an issue with firmware unless they had handicapped it on purpose, which doesn’t make any sense at all.
BTW, what is the greenfield?
I think if Olympus was going to update the video in the E-M1, they’d have done it already. Sounds like wishful thinking.
And don’t forget, about a year ago, this site reported that a massive video update was ‘imminent’. 4K, high bit rate, slow mo, blah blah blah. They even had doctored images to show supposed menu items. Gave concrete release dates and everything. Nothing. This site is a complete joke when it comes to anything actually ‘useful’ about rumors. They are batting like 10% maybe.
I believe they couldn’t & can’t till the limiting 2 year contract they have on the use of the sensor with Panasonic ends in Sept 2015. I think we will at least see more video frame rates (like the E-M5 II) after then to make the E-M1 more attractive again.
That sensor is also used in the GH4 & to Tim Nielson, the idiot that was claiming it could do it was giving faked images & was just a pushy pain at the time. While the sensor is capable of 4K video the heatsinking for one may not be enough because of the lightness of the sensor assembly used with IBIS & if it was tried & seen by someone it wouldn’t be able to run for very long, but the main part was the limit of use for video within the 2 year contract period so it would not compete with the GH4. That part could hardly be discussed publicly! But thanks to Simon’s comment last year, I hope he was right.
I would rather see EM1 mk2.
Why? Do you sell cameras?
Yeah right, who s naive enough to believe Olympus will add functionalities by FW
LOL
Your mom…
This is nothing new. Olympus needs to update the EM-1 until sept. 2016 to give to give the Olympus sales guys enough air to breath.
As far as i know they plan 4 FW updates (after this tomorrow) until the end of 2015. Two of them because of new lenses (8, 7-4, 300er).
The Camera for fotokina 2016 will have 4K. But from Olympus point of view 4K doesn´t make sense for 98% of customers. If you ever made movies in 4k, you realised, that it iis not easy to do. My question is ? who need it ??
I think, they will bring some update to complete 24,25,120p …….. 🙂
greets Simon
Thank you.
Thanks, Simon.
There are a lot they can do with the firmware to keep it “on top” for a little longer until they release a MK2. Olympus have introduced several features and improvements in firmware updates. Not as much as Fuji, but still. My thoughts is they might introduce 25fps video, and maybe electronic shutter (like Fuji did). I don’t think they will release any firmware introducing 4k, but other minor functionality may come.
They have now released FW3.1 & I’ve just updated, but it should be noted, it does reset all setting except AF adjustments, including coming back to the old default of EVF on & SCP only displayed on the screen. Now I’ll have to reload all my settings again, but thankfully I do have a record (somewhere).
I imagine that there will be further firmware updates, but most of the comments here are mere speculation and/or wishful thinking. The posting itself provides no details or attribution of the source. This is, after all, a RUMORS site 🙂
We’ve heard that before.
Exactly this. ‘Oh yeah, 24p/25p is definitly coming to the E-M1’. ‘Yeah, look, we’ve unlocked 4K guys! It’s toatz realz0rs’. Ok, that last one was a little too good to be true.
What do they do next? They bring out the E-M5II to have a video centric model, ok, appreciated, I have many non-native or full manual lenses, would love to get some stabilization going on for those… so I had it on pre-order myself… and then it turns out it’s not so much for professional level cinema filmmaking after all, which the press release would let one assume.
Then I was hoping, atleast let ’em port the 24p/25p to the E-M1 to atleast keep that levelled throughout the top. Nah, good golly gosh, imagine the E-M1 being known for usuable video, we can’t have that! Our flagship should breathe photography only.
Nah. If you’re into hybrid shooting forget it. Panasonic and Sony seem to have it figured out a little better… shame shame shame though.
I can assure you that the em5II is still a great filmic tool, especially if you shoot in documentaristic/reportagistic style. Just filmed a wedding yesterday with it and a gh4 and the mobility it concede to the operator is wonderful
Yeah, the press release just really got to me though. I thought it was going to be everything I wanted, but I even like the footage out of the E-M1 better. The crop and everything as well. And then there’s the warping. It’s hardly an upgrade for me, so I’d rather just have 24/25p etc on the E-M1.
Or better yet, Panasonic… I’ll have one of those GX8’s please, thanks. Imagine the E-M5II, but then done by Panasonic. Now that’s something I would like to see!
But yeah, surely the E-M5II does have its use as you hardly have any other choice for handheld shooting with non-native or full manual lenses, especially like you say for reportage/doc work or something. But that’s why I’m looking into pistol grip gimbal stabilizers now. Well, atleast keeping an eye out. Pilotfly seems to have the no.1 option for me at the time. But I’ll wait a bit more.
rigs and stabilizer are of no use for me sadly…too much time setting up, and many of them can’t let you change zooming without rebalancing.
Honestly warping isn’t an issue using the IS2 mode, mechanical only. IS1 DO use warp stabilizer (as EM1 does) in fact. Also, aliasing is more controlled than in EM1. I’ll tell you because I found a disturbingly lack of information about this camera online, so I had to rent one and evalutate myself ;P
I think Olympus nobbled the video in the 5 II because of the E-M1 and that there will be a firmware ‘upgrade’ of video when they release the E-M1 video upgrade.
Good news.
It also suggests that the E-M1 is not going to be replaced soon.
If you only read the title, sure…
You are right. It will be for Photokina 2016.
They have to say this. They want to sell the existing product as long as possible.
Marketing people have to show you the existing product telling you it is the best and support is great. They do this even if they know that they have a totally different message tomorrow. As soon as the next model is announced, the existing one is outdated and they tell you that you have to consider to buy the new one because there are so many new features which are not available for the old product.
So the E-M1 remains the top model, and the E-M10 remains the forgotten model….
They have 4 bloody m43 current mirrorless cameras, how hard can it be to support ‘all’ of them?
It’s a question for marketing, and also for software engineering. My experience with a lot of companies indicates that software is at the bottom of the totem pole. It looks like Fuji actually gets it right, and Olympus is starting to figure out, but it’s a question of company culture as to whether or not software gets the credit it deserves.
I hate the game Olympus is playing with software limitations.
Look at E-M10 – they completely forgot about it :/
I think that they should take some inspiration from Fuji – they are still introducing new features to old x-E1.
Couple of last updates for E-M10 was more of bug fixing than upgrades.
Does any one know the sales statistics for e-m5, e-m1, e-m10? I would get it if they decided to pretty much drop support for e-m10 if it wasn’t selling well, but I don’t think it is the case?
I agree to some degree. I’m also a bit disappointed that they forgot the E-M10 so quickly after it’s release.and I highly doubt that it didn’t sell well enough. I know more people with an E-M10 than with an E-M5 or E-M1.
Sure, features like the full silent/electronic shutter of the E-M5II might require different hardware, but stuff like the DoF preview toggle (instead of having to keep it pressed), the vintage filters and so on should be possible if the internal memory for the OS isn’t too lmited.
Well, the E-M10 is the entry level OM-D, and currently the body plus two kit lenses runs for 499 euros after cashback where I live. I’m not at all surprised they are not rolling out new FW frequently, especially when there’s nothing really wrong with the camera. Sure, there are the same quirks that you find in every OM-D, but if you look past those there’s really nothing much to fix with the E-M10. It has served me well for the last year as backup for the E-M1.
4k won’t happen in a FW update until the EM1mkII has been out for a few months. Olympus is smart enough to know this would be huge and it would sell well.
Solve the moire that plagues the EM5mkII and include a new sensor. Roll out the same tired 16mp sensor and it’ll be DOA – just like the new EM5.
The EM5 II was not DOA, smartass….
Btw, here ( http://www.olympus.co.uk/site/en/c/cameras_support/downloads/e_m1_download.html ) it says the newest firmware is there (or should be in the next few hours atleast):
NEW 06/16/2015 Firmware update Version 3.1 Available from 16.06.2015
1) The “Underwater” function was added to Picture Mode. *We recommend setting Custom Menu G/zzz + WB to OFF.
2. The “Live View Boost 2” function was added
AMAZING! Together with the dust & scratches filter the other time, this really takes it to some next level shizzle.
You can get it now, but be aware, it does reset all your settings except AF adjustments.
What they didn’t mention ws that now the menu is remembered when you go back to shooting mode. So now you can press Menu again and you are where you left off.
I did notice that very welcome improvement.
I can imagine the updates…
– New “flat” Picture Mode for video…
– Optimized focus peaking in video mode…
Something unexciting for sure…
If you want the “flat” mode for video, set your camera to M (or any other) and hold the Fn2 button and then rotate rear dial. Choose the “Curves” and then press again Fn2, now use rear and front dials to apply S curve by raising shadows and lowering highlights. Now go to Video mode by turning mode dial to Video and record.
Now you have a flat profile!
It was to pretty much every current MFT owner without a serious case of G.A.S.
Well, when Olympus didn’t do at all fireware at 4/3 epoch, you guys critic them “not making any updates”, and now you same guys critic they making updates to fool people. What do you guys want?????
To have a interactive conversation to freedbacks from the community (on their sites, not on any third party sites) and explains what are their goals, what they are testing and trying to achieve. And then release firmware updates faster and sooner than every 6 months.
If you want to flash the new firmware 3.1:
http://lightsnowdev.com/Olympus
Remember, doing it by that your settings will reset. Running trough OIV you maintain those.
That trick is the service way to flash firmwares quickly without using cables etc.
Let’s not forget that it is Nabil who find the possibility to flash the firmware by using simple SD Card and most of the research/modified files was shared by him, I keep all the proofs from him
High build quality will have to be a major distinguishing point of the E-M1 mk2. It will have to be build like a tank with NONE of the stupid little quality issues the mk1 has, such as rubber separating from the grip and dials going out.
Troll elsewhere, kiddo…
Perhaps the mu-43 forums where every 5 posts is a complaint about an E-M1 defect?
People complain on forums these days? The sky is falling!
No trolls… My grip rubber pealed off from the front just suddenly without even noticing it. Was fine when I toke the camera and attached strap to it. Went out to walk to 1km distance and toke three photos. Then walked inside to neighbour’s house and placed camera on the table. While we were eating I suddenly noticed that the grip rubber just below the shutter button was detached. The glue was not holding on. Captured couple shots with a smartphone for documentation and returned to home to write to olympus with the photos.
On next day I sent the camera to Olympus (it was monday) and it came back on wednesday repaired and cleaned. So in three days the body was shipped from Sweden to Spain through Germany and France, services and returned back to me.
How do you call that as service and speed? I wouldn’t care less if there was a problem as I got better service than I never got with Canon and Nikon and I was in their pro service customer!
Only a few months after release and it can’t crack Amazon’s top 100 sellers, meanwhile the 5d3 has been there for years, the EM10 and EPL6 are fixtures in the top 100, EM5II is nowhere to be found. Its understandable as it really offered little over any other Olympus body. B&H shows the same results, the original EM5, the EM10 and about 8- other bodies sell better than the EM5II.
Same tired sensor, no PADF and terrible moire filled video. Most of the “updates” could probably be done via firmware. The EM5II landed with a thud.
“terrible moire filled video”
well, not true. But it’s ok believing only in forum users, if you are comfortable.
Every video I’ve seen from the EM5II with fine patterns is filled with moire, I’m speaking about what I’ve seen. Even Johnnie Behri acknowledged its presence in the promo video he shot for Olympus. Look at the tiles in the water, waves of moire. You can see it in the taxicab piece too. Its terrible.
“Filled with” it’s different from “have some”. That camera have SOME moire (and aliasing too BTW) but far from being unusable. You see…people get obsessed by those details to the point that they event notice that many TV shows and even some movies have those “defects”.
Bashing a camera because in some occurrences, under certain conditions,maybe, it will exhibit moire it’s plain stupidity.
If it were stupidity, then why would manufacturers make a point of highlighting steps taken to reduce or eliminate moire? Why would they even make the effort? Because it ruins many shots. To discount a glaring flaw by saying its ok because other cameras have the same flaw is blind fanboyism. If you don’t talk about it, it will never get fixed. Keep your head buried in the sand and enjoy your moire filled video.
Starting at 9:08, if that’s not terrible moire, then you’re blind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQgIiZeksFI
Point is: moire don’t stop none from using a camera in video. It didn’t stopped House crew in filming with a 5D the season finale. It didn’t stopped Fury Road crew to use even Olympus em5I. It didn’t stopped me from using d800 video on wedding jobs.
I am tired of this nerdism in camera system. Children that brats at the minimal trace of moiré, aliasing and many other stupid “defects”.
You know who find that moire in a video? You, and all the other brat that waste time in overanalizing the damn camera. The rest of us, people who work and use cameras as tools and not toys, will work around “issues”, many time simply ignoring them
The funny thing is that the cure for moiré is an anti-alias filter, exactly the thing that so many people want to be removed from cameras. Which just goes to show that very few people actually understand the first principles of sampling.
Do you know what is the common story among enthusiasts?
“Hi, I am new in photography with D5200/Rebel/etc and have been learning a lot in last few months owning this gear, I have learn a lot about small apertures and rule of thirds for great photos and I am now ready to improve my photographs. So my next step is to go to full frame and I need to make a decision do I buy a 5D Mk X or wait for new Sony A7r II”.
There you have it… That is the COMMON thing that happens, people eat the dog food “It must be full frame to get great photographs!”.
So please, I am happy that it isn’t in Top 100 sellers because then I really have less challenge to show excellent photos over “Full Frame” fanatics.
“E-M1 will get further firmware updates to make it remain the top model over the E-M5II.”
I will believe it when I see it. No reason to make such statements unless you are Fuji!
During September/October this year.
The video improvements won’t happen till the Panasonic contract ends in Sept. 2015.
You will see it. Also, it will depend on how you would look at it.
That’s good to hear O. I’ve done the 3.1 FW now & look forward to later updates as they come, but we will always have the ‘Doubting Toms’ (Doubting Thomas’s). 😉
Many will be happy. Some will not.
Expectation is very hard to manage.
As usual, there will be trolls and detractors.
Thanks very much. That will do for me now thanks.
BTW, I do have one request. I really would like to have optional PD-AF with Live View optimised 4/3’s lenses on the E-M1. That would be a useful addition for darker situations where the 14-54 II lens struggles badly with PD-AF but does much better with CD-AF on the E-M5 (albeit a little slow).
At 128 gigs for a half hour of raw 4K video, I’ll pass on that. But I will be interested to see what’s up with the M1. I’m waiting for an update to that camera, whether it be firmware or a new camera to complete my new kit. As a recent convert from Nikon (D800 and pro lenses) I really am impressed with how Olympus gets photographers – even pros – better than Nikon does.
“I really am impressed with how Olympus gets photographers – even pros – better than Nikon does.”- How so?
Adding WIFI that doesn’t cost hundreds and is an external dongle. In camera VR. Ergonomics are better, focus peeking in MF. The list is pretty long. A recent video interview with Nikon executives they made it clear they knew better than photographers what cameras need. And missing features they can charge more for as external dongles means they cost more. And their attitude toward mirrorless, their camera is a joke.
Olympus have some wonderful gear but for every one Olympus pro there will be hundreds of Nikon pros
The Strategy of Olympus is pretty clear. They will bring EM1 MK II in 09/16 and until than they will freshup the EM-1 with FW-Updates. AS far as i hered, they will bring a new 20mp Sensor + sensor shift without tripod for 60MP fotos.
I think it is the right from OLY to bring each 3 years a top modell. Meanwhile bringing updates is a good way to make the customer happy.
Greets
Simon
Simon who?
Olympuses informer 🙂
Shhhh! It is a secret, hence the name “Simon”
Thanks Simon. Most of these complainers will do so no matter what they get. They must live sad lives!
I like that strategy more as well (less bodies for longer time) than the Sony’s approach (which is quite the opposite). When you buy a new body it will not become obsolete within a year.
– Sony –
Release new version once a year, with new bodies every 6-9 months. Push to people invest extra money to Playmemories to get half-baked functions that you can’t adjust when using those apps.
– Fuji –
Release new version every few year, bring to the markets with the half of the functions like switches and buttons that does nothing. Then fix it with firmwares to competitors level and gain huge success among fans from “improving the camera”.
– Olympus –
Release new version every 2-3 years with new models separated by few months. Push innovation and bring features in camera. Then add new features and fix problems with firmware. And get peoples hates over you because you didn’t do like Sony or Fuji.
Very true! In other words: reality and how it is perceived by a BFUs.
It should actually be a 24Mpix sensor to secure the next 3 years. If Olympus is bringing a E-M1 line in 2016 fall, then there is over a year left to get a improved sensor. So current Sony 20Mpix is NOTHING than old one (currently in manufacturing) in 6-9 months from now on.
And with 24Mpix they will stay in the megapixel race (that ignorant customers wants) and it would offer 96Mpix HR photo, that would secure its place against any competition for next 3 years in studio. Specially if it would be handheldable like 1/60 shutter speed feature! It would even be usable in outdoors for models and landscape without big challenges!
You can see the pixel size on this Sony chart & know why it isn’t more than 20MP for 4/3’s.
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Sony_sensors_2015-s.jpg
Yes, I know that chart and if you would read what I wrote, I said that the E-M1 successor is expected to come out over year from now. That is over 12 months time and it is long time in sensor designs. And likely there is other sensors. Because Olympus isn’t even required to use Sony as the previously used Panasonic and they have used Kodak as well.
You’re right but we dont know which technologies were used – it doesnt have to be conventional Exmor. Maybe Panasonic will supply the next sensor for Oly’s flagship again as they did with the E-M1. Lets hope there will be no restriction…
We can hope, but at least with Sony it seems the sensors are there for use without limitations.
The EM1 has the OLPF which makes for a smoother image than the Em5 mkii. If the EM1 can boost the bitrate a bit and get 24p then I seriously might consider it. The only advantage the EM5 mkii would have for me personally then would be the improved 5 axis Stabilization.
I paid 1250 Euro for the Em-5 II (only body+grip!), btw same price as E-M1. And now I don’t get updates that improve the cam because of a Olympus branding strategy? That’s ridicolous! If this comes true, I will never buy an Olympus cam again. I don’t give my money to a company that act this way! That’s simply customer unfriendly behaviour.
If you get what you pay for at point of sale you can’t complain about another product.
May I ask what you had before the E-M5ii ?
gh1, gh2, g6, gm1. I switched to Olympus because of Ibis. EM-5 II is a good camera, no huge complains, but it also still has problems with autofocus and video quality. Maybe I’m a dreamer. But i expect that firmware updates solve these problems. I do not expect to get new high end features, just bug fixes.
You better go look & see there has been one new update already. Stop your complaining & just go & take some photos.
I had a chat with an Olympus tech-rep a few weeks ago, and he indicated that firmware updates for both the M1 and M5II will keep coming. Alas, my poor old M5 is left in the cold.
Its still very vague, companies saying their will be updates is the ultimate tease with no responsibility to deliver. I wish once a company could say we will be implementing 24p and raising the bitrate etc within the next 3 months. The issue for me is do I buy the EM5 mk2 which is great for video but I think the video looks much better on the Em1 and so if it gets 24p I would go for it. The OLPF helps the image a lot.
uncle_cake
Your comment is ridiculous. Go & update your camera to FW 1.2 now & then take some photos without all the complaining.
What? Isn’t updating firmware much more fun than taking pictures?
Oh yes! I just love to watch the little circle of dots go round as I wait for the update to finish. 😀
It makes sense to do it this way. If the MK2 is eating into the higher priced and higher margin M1’s sales, they have to make the M1 more appealing to shoppers. How would you feel if you had an M1 and you see their cheaper model at parity with their much more expensive camera?
Got to keep the premium customers happy.
That is not what he/she(the source) says. The E-M1 is the flagship, and the source just says it will continue to support it as a flagship. What i think they mean by that is adding for example the video option of the E-M5 II(there is no reason the E-M1 does not have it)
Nobody says they are going to support the E-M5 II any less.
The camera’s hardware differences stay the same:E-m5 II has sensor shift high resolution imaging support, the E-M1 has PDAF, thus supporting excellent focus tracking and support for older 43-rds lenses.
Olympus has stated from the begin that E-M1 is the flagship and the E-M5 line is the middle one.
And the E-M5 II is already over E-M1 in everything else than physical design and the C-AF performance because PDAF.
E-M5 II will get firmware updates, now it is just that E-M1 gets the features from E-M5 II via firmware updates like improved peaking, peaking color choices, Live View Boost II etc.
You have those already, and you are mad because those are not added again?
The question is timing. When would these updates likely happen? At some point early next year people would be looking toward the EM1 mkii not firmware upgrades. It needs to come in the next couple of months really.
Already rumored to drop in September. I think it needed to come out this month personally.
The video improvements couldn’t be released before the 2 year contract with Panasonic that limits its use as it is the same sensor that’s in the GH4. I think we will at least see added frame rates after then in September.
If they manage to add next framerates next to 30:
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Then it would be awesome.
If they can add 120fps in 720p mode, pure awesome!
Make it 240fps in 480p and I will buy a second body!
No.
Can you give me a yes or a no? 🙂 Or is that just giving too much away? 😉
The rumour you are referring to was clear there was a contractual prohibition in terms of Panasonic, so September it will be and no amount of ‘thinking’ or ‘wishing’ is going to change anything.
Understood this for months now from the source rumor.
I was injecting opinion “I think” given my assumptions from months ago that more 4k cameras would hit in May/June and Oly still has no answer than to spread rumors.
The Panasonic contract didn’t ban Oly from 4k on another model did it?
Also this E-M1 4k rumor is still “thinking” or “wishing” at this point. Now we’re hearing Oct – Nov. or could be another model.
We haven’t heard a peep regarding any rumor to do with better video or pix shift hi-rez over the last few months so I’m guessing this rumor was just some E-M1 owners crazy wish list 🙁
The feature that might get me to look at an E-M5II is the sensor-shift high-res. If they can add that in a firmware upgrade (and I suspect they can), then I’m interested. Otherwise… meh?
They can not upgrade mechanical components via firmware. Not happening.
Are you assuming that pixel shift is not possible with the E-M1’s current mechanical components.
5axis is there, I assume beyond this that pixel shift is just software control, albeit it could be slower or faster than the EM5 M2
Yes, I am pretty sure the E-M1 5-axis system is probably not capable of the level of control needed. The E-M5 II IBIS sub-assembly is clearly not the same unit as in the E-M1:
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/531df49be4b0467fe7e839de/t/53232340e4b0182e183c2d15/1394811712495/IBIS_EP_EM.jpg
E-M1 on the right, original E-M5 on the left.
Here is the 5 II unit:
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p794/An0nemu5/Forum/E-M5%20II%20IBIS_zpsff9vxmpi.jpg
The HR mode requires improved Gyro sensors and more accurate sensor shifting.
What they can do is to improve video codecs, add new features via firmware etc.
Got a reference on that? All I’ve read is that it uses the sensor shift mechanism to move the sensor by a fraction of a pixel. Better gyros wouldn’t make sense unless there are gyros riding the sensor for feedback, since the HR mode only works with a tripod.
If indeed the E-M1 hardware can’t do it, then saying that it will remain the “top model” doesn’t apply to still photographers.
They need to say things like this to buy time. And to try to prop up the collapsing price of the EM-1.
I bet they will update the small stuff. Hype it to heaven. After all E-M1 still has some time left on the market. 1+ year… They will have to keep the public interested.
With FE cameras well under 1k now- Olympus is entering a different market next time around with the EM1 II. Lots more options for small and light. Lot’s more well rounded options for small and light. I know they’ll nail the feature set- but more importantly, I hope they get some new sensor tech in it.
The E-M1’s been great for stills and I’ve done some video work with it that I was pretty satisfied with, but quality wise, not as much as the GH3 or even GH1 (hacked). We’ll see what the future holds…