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LIke they did back at Photokina Voigtlander is displaying the new Nokton 10,5mm f/0.95 MFT lens. But they still didn’t unveil any info about the release date and price yet 🙁
Image courtesy: DC.watch.
LIke they did back at Photokina Voigtlander is displaying the new Nokton 10,5mm f/0.95 MFT lens. But they still didn’t unveil any info about the release date and price yet 🙁
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sweet.
This lens could be on my shopping list if it has auto aperture, if its manual stop down at that price no chance
What the hack do you need auto aperture?
what about remote (wi-fi ) shooting?
For that and not only, AF is more important.
This is a mechanical manual lens, stop dreaming.
Can’t wait for this one. Love the other 3, only lenses I ever use on MFT.
I have the other three, too, but break down and use the 7-14mm and 100-300mm, too.
The 10.5mm is definitely on my radar screen!
If Voigtlander would put in AF, I would buy at least 2 of their MFT lenses. Is AF really so hard? I see just about any lens maker can do it.
These are classics designs, full metal and glass, for those who want that haptic full-manual experience. They are beautiful, the nicest lenses I have ever used and you should definitely try one if you can. Manual focus is so enjoyable, but maybe not for sports shooting 😉
Manual focus works great for sports if you just have experience with the objective focus ring travel distance.
With little training, you get enough to know what travel it has to focus between what points. And then it is just burts, you focus moving subject and shoot, if you over-shoot focus, then stop and release burst and the subject will come to focus plane and you have your shot.
Yes it is really hard as that glas is so heavy. It is difficult to move tons of glas fast and silent.
Auto focus would require knowledge of hosting system—an investment that may not present a good return.
Is manual focus so hard?
There are plenty of electronic lenses to pick from.
The Noktons are the real deal!
Expensive, heavy and a bit quirky, but worth every little bit of extra effort.
I keep hearing you guys (not you, but you… uhm. okay many guys then) asking for these lenses to have AF. Take a look at that cross-section. Where would you put the motor? Have you felt how much these weigh already? They have to be built like a tank. Take a look at the price of Voigtlander’s glass. How much do you think it’ll cost with a silent AF motor thrown in? These are primarily used for filming and the noise has to be close to non-existent. I know it’d be “nice” but it’s also unlikely. I’m with you but – get real 🙂 Manual focus is great too, especially if you get a camera with focus peaking.
Focus peaking isn’t a magic bullet.
For those who are working in video where the camera is in motion, manual focus becomes a “pray-and-shoot.” At least that’s the case with my experiences.
FP simply helps a lot with manual lenses. You still need to check your focus, but unless you’ve actually got your lens open to 0.95 with that really really shallow “in focus” area, it’s pretty darn spot on.
That’s why I scratch my bald head when people ask for 17mm f1 or 8mm f1 with AF and small size. And low price.
Do the Voigts have “no interaction” with the camera at all? I.e ..when you close the lens down to f/8, are you looking through a black hole? Do I have that right???
I have used Zeiss on my FF…but they wonderfully have electronic contact with the camera, i.e. There is auto aperture, exif data, readout in the VF etc.. With the Voigts there is no camera interaction at all…correct?I
If so…for lenses in the quality and price range that is very unacceptable, “to me” definitely a deal breaker. The lack of AF you can overcome with practice and skill…but the other part is just crippling in 2015. I shoot stills and there are just others choices that make better sense to me. …but we all look at shooting differently.
True. That is a major advantage of the Zeiss Loxias for the Sony E mount. Having EXIF data is a big plus but the main benefit is having the camera automatially know what focal length the manual lens is to adjust the IBIS to. With electronic contacts implemented, you can have stabilized photos and videos without having to input the focal length yourself. A major convenience over the long run.
The auto aperture is the big whopper. There are just better choices out there for me…I have a Panny 7-14zoom…I will consider the upcoming Oly as its got another f stop……but the size and iQ of the Panny is fantastic, for the price. I just can’t see paying over $1000 for a lens in 2015 and have to shoot under the conditions of a 1930’s era restraint. Makes no sense to me….again, I only shoot stills. …but hey…to each there own.
I enjoy manual focus for lots of still-image work. Video is a whole other world. I too have the Panny 7-14mm and it sits in my bag permanently—I never leave home without it!
setting the aperture manually on an f0.95 lens is something very enjoyable. It really feels like a deliberate, creative choice, that’s part of the composition – as well it should be.
I find the IBIS on the E-M5 to be less effective with non-native lenses—even after you input the focal length.
Really?…hmmmm….wonder why?
It’s not 5-axis?
Jus replied above with my two cents.
Because the camera does not know if you are focusing on a near object or far away to infinite, and choose an average stabilisation.
Good explanation, thanks!
You have EVF, you can even screw a NDx1000 filter front and you see perfectly to do focus and what is going on.
One benefit why OVF are useless today. Close aperture to smallest and no problems with EVF but OVF is like you wish you were shooting the sun.
Hah! We typed the same reply at practically the same time. 😛
OK…OK….I got it…my bad!!!!! Thanks everybody…I had not actually used one….I see …the live view just compensates for the closed aperture…DUH! I should have known that…..(blush!)….Just like the liveview on my Canon would.
I just had not used one on my camera…and I did not think it thru in my head!
I am old…I get confused sometimes, you will see you young whippersnappers! THANKS EVERYONE!!!!
hmmmmmmmmm…( I Fell a slight G.A.S pain….LOL!)
It’s mirrorless; the sensor will automatically gain to show a working preview. Try it some time.
PS. Great for using 10 stop ND filters too.
Activate Constant Preview in the Panasonic GH-series, GM-series and GX7, set it in M mode and you get full-time, live view without having to hunt for and press a preview button.
So, if I change aperture, shutter speed or ISO, I’ll instantly see my exposure. Kiss chimping goodbye!
agree, it is one of the reasons I will never go back to and Optical Viewfinder. NEVER EVER!
not sure what the complaint is… it’s a manual lens so you set the aperture and focus manually on the lens… the camera will still do auto ISO etc like normal based on amount of light hitting the sensor. Primarily what you lose out on is the EXIF data
I use a great Lightroom plug-in, LensTagger, that lets me add lens data to EXIF. It uses ExifTool to do it. Okay, it takes a little extra step when importing images, but it solves the problem.
It will be full manual but the great advantage of mirrorless (m43) is it can see in the dark and AF down to the smallest stop on the lens. Should you ever want to shoot the inside of the coal bunker at night with the lights out …
That POP you just heard was my head coming out of my a$$hole!!!! 🙂
I have only been shooting mirroless since the GF1 LOL!!!! Never used any manual lenses on any of my bodies. Duh.
full manual and AF ? WTF?
I think what Jefrs means is that the EVF can be set to assist focusing in the dark by brightening up the scene. Maybe? dunno. LOL
I’m pretty sure that the 17.5MM and 25mm had no connection at all with the camera, just a metal ring with none of the “connections” that you’d see on other lenses. Probably the 42.5mm was the same way but I never looked at that one
Yep, they’re all strictly manual.
No chips or electronic contacts whatsoever.
They behave exactly like any other manual lens you might want to adapt.
http://digicame-info.com/2015/02/75mm.html
any comparisons or thoughts about:
Voigtlanders VS. Rokinons + Focal Reducer?
differences in price and size are clear. im wondering about optical quality and usability for video.
You cannot use most Voigtlanders with focal reducers. They’re typically M rangefinder lenses so do not have the flange distance needed to work.
I guess Peitz meant using Rokinon 20 with reducer.
Having used Samyang (Rokinon), they’re ok but safe to say not as good as Voitlander, but in this game you can pay ten times as much for something that’s not twice as good.
Ah, ok, I get it now. I guess it’s a matter of budget and gear mix. The Speed Booster is great if you’re going to use it with multiple lenses.
These Voigtländers (10.5mm, 17.5mm, 25mm and 42.5mm) are all native M4/3, so impossible add focal reducers. But, why would you want or need to, since they’re already f0.95 AND classic film-era lens lengths (21mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm).
I’d love to see a 67.5mm f0.95 and a 105mm f0.95, but, then, I’m slightly insane to begin with.
a 400mm f0.95 would be awesome too – it’d give the Sigma Bazooka a run for its money when it comes to size/weight
I’m wondering about video usability as well. I would prefer an auto-focus version. But then again, how well would the auto-focus be in very dark places?
gh4’s autofocus in the dark VERY well. it’s one of it’s strong points for photos.
Same with the GX7. It’s rated at -4EV.
Samyang are supposedly rationalising their brand names, Rokinon may disappear.
Having used a Nikon 20/1.8 for a few weeks with a D810, I’d love one of these. I have a funny feeling I won’t be able to afford it.
masive piece of glasses!
my thoughts exactly.
I’ll keep an eye out when the reviews start to roll in. This could become an essential m43 lens. Ultra fast + ultra wide – this is going to be something out of the ordinary – more so than the 25mm 0.95 even.
Having a wide prime with big glass is an important addition to the MFT lens line up. I’ll definitely be ordering this lens. It will be a great complement to the other Voigtlander’s or the big glass from Panasonic or Olympus such as the Nocticron 42.5 f/1.2 and the Olympus 75mm f/1.8.
I guess they dont like plastic. 😀 Looks nice, but how good it is..
Hopefully better than their 25mm that needed to be stopped down to f2 for decent sharpness. I think their 17.5mm faired a bit better but it would probably be best to wait for reviews before plunking down any money
Sorry junkyardwillie, if you own a bad copy. The Nokton 25mm is sharp wide open for far distances and sharp for close ups from about f1.4. This lens is hard to learn but a marvel. Look at lens tip.com and see the results there. This lens is my best and does not fear a comparison with the m.zuiko 75mm.
Well said. The Nokton 25mm is sharper at f/2.8 than the maximum sharpness level of the Nocticron or the Olympus 75mm 1.8. And even though it’s not super sharp wide open it still has great colors and contrast and produces beautiful images with pleasing background blur. It’s not a lens you can just stick on a body and start firing away though. It has a learning curve and you have to know how to get the most out of it’s capabilities.
yah know what….this guy is an incredible photographer…so I think I will go with his take on the Nokton 25mm.
http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/08/16/review-the-voigtlander-250-95-mft/
For the money…I will keep my Panasonice f/1.4 with the AF.
If you are about taking moody, foregiving portraits the Nocton is a GREAT lens…(I would not mind owning one just for that..It has a “look”) but it certainly is not an all-rounder for a lot of legitimate reasons.
Apparently you don’t own and have never used any of the native M4/3 Noktons.
They may take a bit of extra effort to master, but once your subject is at a bit of a distance sharpness isn’t an issue. Shooting up-close and wide open can be tricky. Managing paper thin depth of field is tricky, but whatever Is in focus is sharp.
Does this lens have aperture controls at the front AND back?
The ring toward the front is aperture. The one in the back is focus. The aperture #s on the back ring are for zone focusing, which is a MF technique
Geeze, look at all that metal and glass. That thing could probably stop a bullet!
Added selling point for war journalists…
7mm 2.8 non fisheye please.
Pretty please.
um….Can’t tell Jack from those images at DSLReview…..I think that those images have camera shake….Still need a proper review from a photographer that I respect.