Preorders (if you preorder through those links you will support 43rumors…thanks!):
E-M5II in Black or Silver at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus. In Europe at Jessops, WexUK, Namencolor.
14-150mm II lens at Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
FL-LM3 Flash at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Olympus ECG-2 External Metal Grip at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Olympus HLD-6P Battery Grip at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
HLD-8g at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
E-P16 eyecup at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
HLD-8G and HLD-6P kit at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Full leather case at Amazon, Adorama and GetOlympus.
Olympus PT-EP13 Underwater Housing at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Olympus Stylus Tough TG-860 at Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Previews and tests:
Full review by Robin Wong, First impression at Dpreview, Report by Damian Mc Gillicuddy, Hands-on review at ePhotozine, Rewview at Mirrorlessons , First impressions by ThePhoBlographer, Review by Dimitri Novak on Youtube, Preview at Imaging Resource, Hands-on at Pocket Lint, Test by DSLRmagazine (Spanish), Review by Dimitri Kroupski (Russian of course), Spanish analysis at Quesabesde, French hands-on at Hybridcams.
Image samples:
On Flickr, Damian Mc Gillicuddy, Dpreview, Neunzehn,
Videos:
Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark II Hands-On Field Test by TheCameraStoreTV:
Olympus OM-D E-M5 MarkII (Youtube), Olympus EM5 Mark 2 versus a DLSR (Youtube), Olympus OM-D E-M5 MarkII The Runner (Youtube),
5-Axis Image Stabilization (Youtube). London Taxi – A short film shot on the Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark II (Vimeo). Cool car test E-M5II vs GH4 on Youtube. Review by Dimitri Novak on Youtube. Video by DSLRmagazine (Vimeo). E-M5II unboxing (Youtube). Olympus OM-D E-M5 MkII 10fps Continuous Shooting shutter sound (Youtube). Video by Quesabesde (Youtube).
Press text:
E-M5II: Dpreview, BHphoto, Photographyblog, Imaging Resource, SystemKameraForum, DSLRmagazine, Quesabesde, ePhotozine, Focus Numerique, DC.watch, OpenPN, Weddingect.
14-150mm II: Dpreview, Photographyblog, ePhotozine, ThePhoBlographer, DSLRmagazine, DC.watch, OpenPN,
E-M1 firmware: Dpreview, Photographyblog, ePhotozine Focus Numerique, OpenPN,
8mm f/1.8 fisheye: Dpreview, Photographyblog, SystemKameraForum, DSLRmagazine, Quesabesde, ePhotozine, Focus Numerique, DC.watch, OpenPN,
Olympus launches the Air clip: Dpreview, DC.watch,
TG-860 compact: Dpreview,
Cool E-M5II accessory range graph at ePhotozine.
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IT’S HAPPENING!!! 🙂
Here we go!
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We are a sad bunch 😉
West coast!
F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5…
Dang, I’m gonna wear this key out! 🙂
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1080p 60fps!
Could be great fun for catching surfers at the beach.
40MP mode is kickass! Very impressive, WOW!
maybe 4k video in em5II possible in filmware update
I doubt it. That will probably be reserved for the E-M1 II.
I’m sure 4k will come to E-M5II too. Just after the E-M1mk2 is released and not a day before.
Oh. Yes.
I’m sure owners of the E-M1 were hoping for electronic shutter. Version 4.0 maybe?
I can’t speak for anybody else — but I’m *very* happy the new firmware will allow for control of video capture via the OI.Share app(s). This will make the app far more useful for me.
Right now I’m just wondering if the new (FL-LM3) flash will work with the E-M10 as well, or just with the E-M5 II. It doesn’t need its own batteries, so would be a nice travel flash for cameras w/o the accessory port.
New firmware? You mean the current one? As the current one allows to shoot video, but just max 16 seconds…..
The new FL-LM3 flash will only work on the E-M5-II. It will not work on any other camera. This is because the flash has no battery, and it gets its power from a new pin that Olympus added to the hot-shoe. The previous FL-LM1/FL-LM2 flashes used on various Pen and E-M5 used the accessory port to provide power. Like the E-M10, the E-M5-II has no accessory port, but it does not have a built-in flash like the E-M10.
Disappointed there are no new art modes… 🙂
You must be joking. You need “art modes”? Why, so you can make some pretty pictures to share on twitter? I wish they would just leave that crap on the silly little selfie cameras. Trust me, this thing has more than enough “art modes.”
At modes, geez
I use sometimes Olympus Art filters, they are great help to offer new way of seeing things because you get it in live view in EVF.
You should try sometimes Monotone, Color Creator, Highlight Gradiation, Vintage and Partial Color.
You even might want to keep many of the shots you get with those. Unless you are purist and pixel peeper.
I am joking. Obviously.
If someone puts a smilie at the end of something, it usually means a sense of humour should be engaged when interpreting the authors intent.
Welcome to USA; where people smile at your face while f*king with you. You don’t really know how to react as their facial expression and attitude are totally opposites.
Same is with smileys, you don’t anymore know is other just f**ing with you or not 😉
1. It was obviously a joke
2. Do you blame ppl for using PP tools too?
Art modes should be called RASPP (Right After Shot Post Processing), that would sound more “PRO” maybe 😀
I’m very impressed with the 40MP mode from the dpreview site. Their sample image apparently used the oly 17mm 1.8 lens and it looked REALLY good. I can’t believe the 17mm can compete well against the D810
Correction: the D810 comparison used the Oly 45mm @f5.6 vs the AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1.8G @f5.6. I think the right lens might even beat the D810. The Oly 45 came really close.
I was disappointed that dpreview didn’t compare the E-M5II with the E-M1, since they are both ~$1100 new, it seems like a natural comparison.
As I was little afraid, if the pre-reviews are true, E-M5 II has newer processor, newer sensor. So E-M1 is dead with the price unless it drops dramatically to E-M10 price range. Otherwise only reason NOT to get E-M5 II over E-M1 is if you really dislike fully articulated screen. Otherwise there is NO reason to get E-M1 anymore, even with huge price drop.
Or you own old Zuiko lenses…
If you own old 4/3 Zuiko objectives, you have already bought the E-M1.
And it is better to sell (or why not keep) the 4/3 objectives and buy Pro line. You really cover everything if 200mm + TC14/2 are not the top deal for you.
My 50-200 Zuiko ED SWD works well with the E-M1’s phase detection system for surfing photos at the beach. I’m watching the Pro line, of course.
I would switch to Pro line (heh, I did) but that possibility use 4/3 1.4x and 2x teleconverters with that 200mm can be deal breaker for some.
I made analytic comparison and checked the amount of the shots I had at that missing range (above 210mm) and it was rarely needed. But those were with old 4/3 E- series cameras that had worse quality than E-M1. So I can even crop more and if wanted do amazing enlargements.
I got smaller, faster and no pumping zoom!
And if I now would go store, I would have very big difficulty buy E-M1 over E-M5 II. As those better Gyros in E-M5 II IBIS can make some tricky shots work. But again, it depends about C-AF possibility as E-M1 does use PDAF for that (still I am not 100% sure is it just for C-AF+Trk or for C-AF as well?)
But anyways, I can’t recommend E-M1 to anyone anymore really.
From the Robert Wong review someone posted above. It doesnt sound like there is a new sensor.
“On the whole, the image quality is something very similar to what to be expected from OM-D E-M1 and E-M10. The camera uses the same 16MP image sensor and similar processing engine, Truepic 7, thus I do not see any jump when it comes to image quality. Even if there was any difference or improvements, it was not noticeable to me, and I regard as negligible.”
“Similar” is not same as “same” or “identical”. The Chris from TheCameraStore TV mentions that sensor is updated of the E-M5 and the IBIS is updated (like the Robert Wong say with more info, that gyro sensors were updated) and specifically that processor is TruePic VII but updated version.
I don’t care about image quality not getting much better (if at all) as its already very high and more than needed for large prints (and I am talking 24″ (60cm) size prints or even 5 feet (1.5m) and they are great).
All what I want to get to my E-M1 is 25fps mode… bonus if 50fps and 60fps modes comes. I don’t need updates to compression or bitrates. Just to get the framerates so my video doesn’t have flicking lights!
DPReview has studio scene comparisons for the E-M5mk2. Comparing to E-M1 and old E-M5 there seems to be a noticeable improvement. As usual with DPReview, some of their test shots are out of focus, so it’s hard to draw conclusions about fine details, but there is noticeably less color noise and the luminance noise is finer. This should make it much easier to apply discrete noise reduction in post without destroying fine detail.
I don’t know who Robert Wong is, but I am familiar with Robin Wong doing great reviews.
Well the E-M5 II is a damn impressive looking bit of kit for sure. I can only imagine what joys the E-M1 II will have when it is released either later this year or early next.
I had an E-M5 I before the E-M1, and I do greatly prefer the ergonomics on the E-M1, personally. I guess it will be the same situation for the E-M5 II.
Phase detection is a major difference (4/3 lens compability + c-af with m43-lenses). It’s the only thing that’s making me unsure about which to get. I hope e-m5 II af performance surprises me positively…
This was expected. There is no point in deliberately crippling a new camera to protect sales of a 1-year old flagship. If they did that, they would seriously lag behind the competition until E-M1mk2 is released in a year or two. Until then, the asking price for the E-M1 will probably drop to around the same price as the E-M5mk2, since it’s basically as capable a camera.
No, you get it wrong.
There is of course no reason to cripple a new camera, but there is no sense to cripple old camera that is in sales if not getting soon a new version. Otherwise E-M1 sales will drop radically, as E-M5 II is almost every way better (image quality wise), only articulated screen, AP2, and possible requirement to buy the additional grip are “negative”.
It all comes down to price. If the E-M1 is priced similarly as the E-M5mk2, then it’s a pretty close call, especially since you can get the E-M1 as a kit with a load of accessories and lenses, while the E-M5mk2 is currently body only. Besides, the E-M1 still has some advantages, like better C-AF and faster burst rate, and also no AA filter that I believe the mk2 has.
Brace yourself, because I bet the EM1 II (?) will have a fully articulated screen as well.
5 stop image stabilization? Brah
Camerastore video seemed very positive on it. I might pick one up later in the year on a price drop. Id like to see some full reviews first. The video suggested that the sensor is new although it looked like the usable iso range is still 6400 which is a shame.
Did you watch The CameraStore TV review? Chris told that 6400 is the max usable (IHHO). I have used 3300-6400 with E-M1 my max if wanted to do large prints, but gone even max out (yes, after 3200 its all just software (aka extended)) for 12″ prints.
Yea I had watched the CameraStore one. Just took a look at dpreview’s studio shots comparison and I’m not seeing much difference at 6400 ISO and above versus my GM1 so I’ll certainly end up holding out on an upgrade for now. I like the look, layout and the image stabilization but I probably couldnt bring myself to shell out $1,000 for it if the image quality on the non shift shots are the same. I’ll wait to see what the full reviews say.
when i take picture on night street, i rarely go above 3200, is stick to 800~1600iso. I use once 6400 for a candle light scene. So good 3200 is more than enough fo night shot on reasonably lit city street. IBIS helps a lot.
Hey when was that new 7-14 Pro announced, it still says “coming soon” on B&H… I’d love to get my hands on that lens plus this body, especially if the new 7-14 is weather sealed which I would assume based on the “Pro” nomenclature.
Dear lord, 40 MP in such a tiny, lightweight package…Have fun lugging your D810 and 14-24 up a hill, I could probably carry three of these and still come out ahead!!!
>Have fun lugging your D810 and 14-24 up a hill, I could probably carry three of these and still come out ahead!!!
Have fun only being able to shoot on days with absolutely no wind. Look at the TCSTV review, it totally botches the stitching of the fog coming off of the buildings as your lowest possible effective shutter speed is 1″.
That’s for still life and taking photos of paintings. Its a cool feature, but no reasonable landscape photog is going to handicap themselves with it.
(Take this as a joke): If your skills to identify fog from smoke, you must be true landscape photographer 😉
Seriously: Did you carefully check how long it toke to E-M5 II to capture the shots? You need to have higher than 1-2m/s wind to really ruin your shots. But pixel peepers are never happy.
When the octo-exposure (LOL) causes such small ghosting, its not a problem.
I’m not sure I follow your joke, it’s fog coming from the heat exchanger… it was approx -20C when they shot that in Calgary. My skills in identifying that come from living in Calgary :P.
As far as how long it took to capture the shots, Olympus says about a second: A tripod and a high-resolution M.ZUIKO® DIGITAL PRO or M.ZUIKO Premium lens are recommended to use the 40-Megapixel High-Res Shot mode, which captures eight shots over a period of one second. Another two seconds are required to compile the final image. Images can be captured at up to f/8 with a shutter speed of up to eight seconds and a sensitivity of up to ISO 1600.
Brett, I think what they mean is that even if you used a very fast shutter speed, the camera would still take a whole second to click all the shots, …however shutter speeds up to eight seconds can still be used in this mode, it sounds like.
This is indeed pretty limiting, and I’m no stranger to ghosting and those annoyances, as someone who does plenty of HDRs and panoramas already. However I’ll still be taking it for a test spin!
Methinks, as I’ve said elsewhere, I would have loved the Olympus system better if they had suck with a 1.5x sensor instead, and thus taken advantage of the gorgeous 24 MP chip that Sony has been circulating. (and letting Nikon hire Toshiba to remake as well, I hear?) Having tested the Pentax K-3, the Sony A6000, and the Nikon D5300, D5200, and D7100, (All which share a stunning 24 MP 1.5x sensor) …I have to say, by comparison the Olympus E-M1 was good, very good, but not quite up to par with the others for landscape purposes.
In other words, in my pursuit of affordable lightweight alternatives to a full-frame DSLR behemoth such as the D810 or 5D mk3, I fear I’ll more likely be waiting for Sony to add weather sealing and 5-axis stabilization to an A6000 mk2, than “settling” for the 2X sensor in the E-M5 mk2.
However, as an extremely lightweight and famously well-sealed piece of kit, I’m still considering it to be a very formidable tool.
The 40 MP taking a full second limits it, but someone’s going to get a nice photo of a perfectly still lake at dawn without going to the expense of buying a big, really expensive camera. Anything that makes one’s kit more versatile is good.
I admit that seemingly stationary objects, especially trees, grass, and other plants, usually move quite a lot.
I have an E-M1, so won’t be in a hurry to get another body, unless video on the new E-M5 is spectacularly better.
Admin, place to top the Olympus own OM-D Movie advertise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJuKF5QvaAU
Thunk, thunk, thunk…
😀
Robin wong
http://robinwong.blogspot.tw/2015/02/olympus-om-d-e-m5-mark-ii-review.html
Seems awesome! Ergonomy looks so much better than in the old e-m5 and 40 Mp + video framerates are all available at full hd. Even sequential shooting with first curtain electronic. The silver looks sooooo good, much more handsome than the black (especially the dials + wheels)!
Should I get this, or wait for a e-m1 II with a better (c)af-system, to go with the 300 f4. Any advice? Decisions, decisions…
Yes, glad I was wrong with my worries that 50/60 fps would not be available for 1080p. As it just removes the whining from competitors fans.
My advice would be, if you need camera now, take E-M5 II. If you have time to spend (12-18 months) and wait, wait for E-M1 II and then look if it is similar as E-M1 or is E-M5 II better.
The problem is I dont need a m43 camera yet, but I want one 😀 ! I only need it when the 300 f4 is available and then maybe the new flagship is announced. Then again if it takes several months for the e-m1 II to hit the street after the 300 F4, I could have been shooting along happily for a year with the e-m5 II
You can also compromise & get it six months later at a cheaper price & still have 6 months enjoying it before the 300 f4 lens comes. 😉
Olympus normally have a three year cycle for their high end cameras so the E-M1 mark 2 probably won’t be available until the end of 2016.
What is Olympus Air??? Are there going to be kit discounts? Sold my EM5 with the kit lens, so now need something that is weatherproof. 4k would have been a nice bonus, but at least happy with the other video improvements
dpreview has two images of the same scene, one at high rez and the other normal. I personally can’t see much of a difference, but they are not posted at the same size. I will wait for a more complete review. (Although, as the high rez is a longer exposure, naturally the lady is blurred).
I am yet to be convinced.
Nice , but no 63 mpx raw?
If the Camera Store’s review is correct, it looks like Oly squeezed out another stop on ISO performance. I sort of downplayed this camera, but I think the sum of feature revisions makes this quite a nice package.
LOL @ wishful thinking.
According to Robin Wong, the C-AF can’t compete with the E-M1 – meaning that it’s clearly inferior to the one of the GH4. Unfortunately – or fortunately if you ask my wallet – this camera therefore isn’t a camera for me.
Same problem here 🙁
From the dpreview studio comparison tool, it seems that high iso has improved noticeably!
I agree, less color noise, finer luminance noise. The amount of luminance noise hasn’t dramatically decreased, but the finer grain should make it much easier to correct in post.
It seems TCS has answered pretty much every question I’ve seen others ask about this camera on this site. I stil think it’s in every way an improvement over the Mark I and the swivel screen means most Lumix GH/G users now have the option to switch brands without losing a major advantage, while gaining the excellent IBIS from Olympus.
Yes indeed. The bloody swivel screen is an advantage. Say no more…
If you’ve ever used one in a situation where it does one of the many many angles a flip-out screen can’t, you’ll see the advantage. I am perfectly aware this is an issue that causes butt-hurt for many photographers, because they are trying to convince themselves they don’t need it, that they haven’t missed out by not having one, so I’ll just let you disagree and move on. I am stating my opinion and if you don’t agree, that’s just fine with me.
As I wrote above: Had it in my E-30, E-5 and G1. Never was of use for me. Don’t shoot portrait format pics as I don’t like them anyway and its a major handicap for waist-level photography.In addition, it makes the camera far wider when used and if you are shooting at a party or wedding, you will get far less un-posed pics because everybody is aware that you are just shooting.
Yes I know that there are occasions when a swively tingy may represent an advantage for somebody and therefore, I wish that they somewhen will give is a display that can do both – such as the one of A77/A99 or even the one of Panny’s old bridge cameras FZ30/FZ50 – but as long as this isn’t the cvase, the advantages of a tilting screen are far bigger for me than the disadvantages.
I am perfectly aware this is an issue that causes butt-hurt for many
photographers, because they are trying to convince themselves they don’t
need it, that they haven’t missed out by not having one, so I’ll just
let you disagree and move on. I am stating my opinion and if you don’t
agree, that’s just fine with me.
All the swivel heads think people who don’t like them never used one. Lol, must be noobs. Ten years ago all articulating screens were swivel, I had many. Junk back then, junk now. Really for video, has no place on a proper stills camera.
“junk” and “no place on a proper stills camera”. That’s not your opinion, that’s fighting talk. Especially since it’s totally, utterly unfounded bollocks. You may not find that you need one, you may not like them, but that doesn’t make either of those statements true.
Clearly an opinion, to think otherwise is psychotic. See jeffharris for an appropriate response.
I’m sure material testing could show that the durability of the rotating, single-hinged mechanism is more fragile than the tilt mechanism, but it seems obvious to anyone with eyes. I’ve only had one swiveler break, but that was enough. Good luck walking through a crowd with a Dumbo ear sticking out.
I’m not talking about walking through crowds. I’d use a goddamn GoPro for that. As a matter of fact,I’d use common sense first of all. Oh, and I do have eyes, by the way. I use them to not walk into stuff with my camera. You should try it 😉
Oh please…
… and your handle is apt.
Yes – fool for buying a Pen, hope that’s clear now. This site said some older models would be receiving further updates soon, that was many months ago. Notice in today’s big announcement how many models got new features in firmware – only one, the most expensive. Even giving another stupid art filter to E-M10 or E-P5 owners is too generous for Olympus. Where’s the 0-sec anti-shock for E-M5? Sorry, thank you for your purchase and good day…
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54203197
Maybe I’ll be proven wrong in a few months, I hope so.
Video shooters can just get the external screen and turn it as they want. Photographers can’t. But then again photographers can use remote control.
When I traded the GH3 for the E-M1 temporarily, I missed the fully-articulated rear display, and there were times when I used the Olympus E-5 instead of the E-M1. Now that I have the GH4, I can avoid the problem and use the same lenses.
As many people tend to forget, Gh4 takes very good stills to :).
Yes, but it could be improved, for sure. It would help if Olympus and Panasonic would work together in a more effective way.
Well, when shooting a waist level, the old swivel approach is a p.i.t.a.
I wish they would opt for the Sony approach (A77/A99), giving both fractions what they want. Had the swivel in my E-30, E-5 and G1 and never used it. Since my E-PL3, however, I’m doing 80 percent of my non-action photography with the tilted screen at waist level. So, I definitely don’t want to go back to the swively tingy, as Kay arguably would put it.
I don’t shoot from waist level, so I won’t be in the same situation. Working from a few inches off the ground is totally different, and the articulated display works just fine.
Yes, I’m aware that a swivel screen is an advantage if you shout a few inches of the ground in portrait format. And I wished that our manufacturees would meet the needs of both parties. But as long as they don’t I allow myself to be egoistic and support the solution that suits my needs best-
Why the SLT77/99 is so much nicer. And if someone doesn’t know what it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhZC_soplII#t=392
That would have been the best. Those who need to shoot vertically at very low or high positions can do it, those who shoot photographs and those who shoots video.
There it doesn’t work just fine, as you don’t easily handle the horizontal position and your left hand needs to find better way to handle camera from screen or objective.
The fully articulated screen works well when shooting from shoulder level with one hand, and when needed to get video to front or directly above when camera hanging on rig.
Yep, shooting in portrait mode, the swivel screen is a huge advantage. Tilty doesn’t cut it, especially if you’re holding the camera at any high or low angle.
There is no reason why Panasonic users to change brands. I personalty don’t care about IBIS and I don’t want a sensor that heat’s up quicker because of it. I’m very satisfied with Panasonic cameras, especially with GH4 and it’s marvelous video recording capabilities.
I’ve used both brands and love them equally, there’s no reason to argue among m43 users, the fact that Olympus has released such a great camera (even tough I loathe slr-styled mirrorless) is awesome for Pany users because it presures Pany into releasing even better cameras, it’s a win-win for us consumers so stop arguing already.
Totally agree on this one!
I was just arguing the statement about the switching brands.
I’m very glad that Olympus exists (a good concurrence for Panasonic) + it produces some unique lenses, also very good for Panasonic cameras.
You do know what from point of the Venus, earth is so far away from the Sun….?
If you don’t get what it means, is that there are always pixel peepers and frame hunters, as well as there are those who use cannon to kill any living being, from a lion to mosquito.
Some people are never happy about anything they have, because they have too many choices. http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice
There is reason why Panasonic users should change to Olympus, as the IBIS even in hands of amateur will provide much better memories.
No soccer mom, enthusiast or even professional accepts a shaky video, requiring shoot on tripod or carry rigs to get semi-acceptable footage. When you have to choose between shaky or stable video, 95% of people go to stable even if its little lower quality (but still higher than needed).
Most Panasonic lenses are stabilized, the “soccer moms” are safe and the more advanced users know what they are doing.
There are so many cheep stabilizing options, like the fluid monopod from Manfrotto nowadays. And even so, the good 4K or FHD form Panasonic cameras can very well be stabilized via software resulting in a much better video than any Olympus camera can produce.
I don’t care about IBIS, but I do care about very good video quality and functionality.
Judging from the EM5 II video in the review, the video quality pales in comparison to the GX7. If you shoot video, Panasonic is still the one to beat.
Agree and to be honest I prefer the jpeg engine in the new generation of Panasonic cameras, the images have finer detail in comparison to Olympus (I’m referring to normal images daily taken, not some lab tests).
How about the video made in the John Brawley review referenced above? For hand held use, the 5 II is unmatched.
Funny, this year I changed from Olympus to Panasonic.
You should have waited few weeks longer before switching, as we all knew that CP+ is on February.
+1 we are spoiled with choices. I’ve seen Pana owners willing to give up 4K to get E-M5II, and other people who are disappointed with the upgrade and wait for GX8 instead. Their individual need is not as simple as white/black, so when other brands offer the best option for them, they have every reason to switch, and they should.
Even though it has focus peaking during video and 1080p at 60fps, I bet Duarte Bruno still won’t be happy 😉
It has those? Peaking during video, even at 60fps?
Sounds like Olympus really toke all the points people whined and designed new body for video people.
According to Dpreview it does:
“The camera’s movie capabilities have also been greatly enhanced, not
just with the addition of 1080/60p shooting and an All-I, 77Mbps
compression option for 30p capture, but also with the arrival of a
series of supporting features. These include focus peaking, uncompressed
HDMI output, a mic input socket and timecode, amongst others.”
Actually, even more earth shattering is that you can adjust all settings – exposure, iso, etc – while shooting video!
Now, if only Olympus could just stop neglecting the PEN line and release a proper flagship E-P7 with some, if not all, of this beauty’s specs that’d rock. The next PEN flaghip needs to sit between the EM10 and 5II in the general line up. Neither too competitive with the recent 5II to cannibalize it nor as dumbed down as an EM10 to fuel criticism towards its flagship status.
Put an EVF into the E-PX body along with these specs and the next PEN flagship will be a far greater success story than the overpriced and featureless E-P5. Such a camera would certainly hold its own weight against current and close-to-be-released RF-esque competitors, enough to even warrant a long wait until the new organic sensor tech is available (probably reserved for the EM1 mkII). If Olympus keeps their atrocious attitude towards the PEN line, the entire system will suffer from such lack of diversity, besides, such a camera would put pressure on Pany to release a suped-up GX camera (2.5k video, 5 axis, Weather sealing, more Fn buttons, better EVF, 14EV DR).
Basically the linup should be as follows:
Entry level:
EM10 for slr/omd fans
EPMX with a new GM-esque approach but at entry price
Enthusiast:
EPL7 for modularity (add ons)
EPX flagship PEN, compact all inclusive package
EM5II all inclusiveness + modularity
Pro
EM1 II 4k, organic sensor, better ISO, DR, all the bells and whistles + better ergonomics and compatibility with PRO&4/3 lenses
Is this too complex for you Olympus ?
There’s no more Pen. E-P5 is abandoned even though it’s listed as a current model. New features will be added only to cameras bodies that cost $1K or more; since E-P5 was $999.99 at release, it doesn’t qualify even for the addition of the Vintage art filter.
If you want to hope for something from Olympus, hope they’ll release a memo stating which cameras will be abandoned and which will be supported, that way you can pick the right one next time.
If that ever happens it’ll only be because Olympus management is too incompetent, not because the PEN wasn’t a good concept or product. In a market where most other vendors are successful selling their own RF-esque bodies with EVF along their SLR-esque models with no problems, Olympus is starting to look schizophrenic, they’re the only one that remains stubborn about this issue, they have decided to cripple their own system for no good reason.
Only thing I dont like is the swivel screen.
As I am going to have to live with it, Im hoping it will make it easier to keep the horizon straight when filming as the whole package gets almost twise as wide.
I already miss fast snapshots of my kids at knee level.
I’m not a fan of swivel screen myself but the only real disadvantage I can see is for inconspicuous street or candid shooting, otherwise it’s just a matter of personal preference.
Actually it works quite well for street shooting.
With my GH2, the screen swings out over my wrist, so the camera is closer to my body. Tap the screen to shift focus point or set it to tap and trigger the shutter. Even using manual lenses it works well.
But now you can do selfies!!! One thing I do like about the fully articulated screen is that you can flip it around when not in use and this fully protects the screen from damage.
It’s also great for street shooting where you can shoot subjects at a 90° angle.
You could also try the time-honored technique of simply facing the people you’re photographing. Straightforwardness and clear intentions go a long way in street photography.
It’s also awfully notorious for waist level shooting, just saying.
PS: you can use remote wifi shooting with your phone, waaayy better option than looking like a weirdo shooting around corners.
two words: Gorilla Glass.
I hope they allow you to override the “IBIS-focal lenght” so you can adjust the level of compesation on all lenses. I find that very useful on the Voightlanders, setting a smaller focal lenght if I just want the IBIS to take the edge of my movements.
Check the John Brawley link above.
Yesss! Thanks Stig!
This camera would be perfect if it weren’t for its centered EVF and unnecessary hump, having that new keystone feature PLUS the new hires shot mode would be the perfect combo for architectural work, I wonder if those two features are simultaneously accessible. Either way I’ll just wait for whoever releases something similar in E-PX or GX form, that or I’ll just wait for the next leap in IQ whenever organic sensors make their way into m43; for now my GX7 serves me QUITE well.
The hump is not unnecessary, it houses image stabilisation components which have to be kept at a distance to make the IS effective.
And the amazing large EVF + it’s lenses
AS Mr.Chainsaw said, both the EP-5 and GX7 (and any of the Fuji or Sony RF-esque models) are proof that the hump is just there for aesthetics. It is not needed for IBIS nor for the hump. Olympus has all the resources to produce a proper GX7-esque competitor, they just don’t want to.
Why does it work in E-P5 without hump than?
I hope you are young, because it’s going to be an awfully looooooong wait.
Why not get an E-P5 then? It’s a wonderful camera, with outstanding build quality.
Because my GX7 is a more complete camera. I’ve had Olympus, love them, but I won’t get a PEN again until Olympus stops being stubborn and puts an EVF into their flagship model.
GX7
It’s right there on the last sentence, I OWN a GX7 already, I’m talking about whatever upgrade or competing model comes next, either from Oly or Pany.
I’m interested in Metabones Speed Booster compatibility. Will the EM5II only works with the “S” version (special design) like previous OM-Ds?? If yes, I’ll have to wait for the Nikon G version… 🙁
Looking at Robin’s review, I am struck by a number of things. I thought the IBIS on the E-M5 was magic. On the EM-1 it is witchcraft, so since robin says it is significantly improved over those on the 5 II, I suppose it must be wizardry.
The 14-150 II impresses and seems better than I had expected.
Getting access to the 40-150/2.8 is enough of reason for someone to get into M4/3. Those water/washing shots!
I don’t know much about video, but I have heard you can take 4K video and stabilse footage in post using the right software. Looking at Robin’s video test, I am wondering how much time would it take to post process GH4 4K footage to get results like that? Would it even be that effective?
His 40Mp food shots have left me hungry and wondering just how big could you print those images?
Can anyone really complain about the price of this amazing tour-de-force?
Agree with you. Since I’m doing some food photography lately, I might consider to buy this camera, but I think that although amazing I don’t need it so much.. I’m more interested in the 7-14 pro lens.
DPReview specs say that hires mode is 9216×6912 in RAW and 7296×5472 in JPEG. Does anybody know why the JPEG is smaller resolution? The RAW resolution makes perfect sense, it is exactly 4 times the sensor resolution, so why downsample it for JPEG? Not that it matters much, most people will probably go RAW all the way with this mode, I’m just curious.
because there is some overlap on the samples taken (clearly explained on DPreview with some GIFs) and the jpeg output takes that overlap into account.
otherwise said: in the “full res” RAW image, not each pixel is 100% pure and unique (= seperated from the neighboring pixels), while in the
I’ll go for the JPG just out of convenience – but I’m sure in practice it will hardly matter – a bit more pixels but slightly soft on RAW vs less pixels but more clean on JPG. ( If their JPG processing adquate which I expect it will be )
Thanks, makes sense. It reads in Olympus’ official notes that it will require a Photoshop plugin to process the RAW files, so basically that 64MB raw will become a 40MB file after the stitching is done. Lets hope it will work in Lightroom also.
Now, with this camera definitely not being for me, I’d rather see some detailed information on the E-M1 firmware upgrade.
John Brawley’s video oriented first impressions… https://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/olympus-comes-in-from-the-filmmaking-wilderness/
So I checked the announcement on DP review, and DP review says “The E-M5 II uses a redesigned 16MP Four Thirds sensor ” . Rumors here indicated that its the same exact sensor as the old EM5. Admin, would you be able to confirm this? 😀
From GetOlympus: The FL-LM3 only works with the E-M5 Mark II camera. It will not work with other cameras.
What’s up with that? Why wouldn’t it work on the E-M1? Sounds like BS to me, I’ve yet to see a flash that didn’t at least fire on pretty much any camera with a standard hotshoe.
cause it doesn’t have an internal battery, it takes charge from the camera hot shoe (different in e-m5 II), not from the old accossory port.
Thanks, I didn’t realize it doesn’t have internal battery. The housing looks big enough for that, I was thinking 2xAAA.
That mini flash is pretty cool! I wish it would work with any body…:(.
http://1.static.img-dpreview.com/previews/olympus-om-d-e-m5-ii/images/Flash_Upper.gif?v=3047
What a shame, that little flash would’ve been perfect for my GX7.
Does the sensor on E-M5 Mark 2 has a AA filter or not ?
There has not been an AA filter in any Olympus camera since the E-M1, I think (in other words, it was not present in E-M10 nor E-PL7), so I would take it for granted that there’s no AA filter in E-M5ii neither.
sounds ambiguous, actually: of coure there’s also no AA filter in the E-M1
Someone explain to me what’s the downside of using the electronic shutter (that makes the 1/16000 s possible)? Lags, reduced DR, noise or what? In other words, whats the use for the mechanical shutter in e-m5 II ??
Electronic shutter slightly reduces DR. And if there are moving objects on the picture they are distorted (cars, for example).
Does distorsion happen on all speeds?
Yes. The issue is that the full readout time (from the first line of the sensor to the last) will take somewhere from 1/20s to 1/10s, (even though the exposure can be much much shorter)
Thanks, thats what I assumed.
DR is only reduced with an electronic shutter if they limit bit depth to speed up reading of the sensor to limit rolling shutter. (Distortion because of read out time of the sensor.)
The GM1 and GM5 drop from 12-bit to 10-bit when using the electronic shutter. No such limit with the GX7. (I’m unsure about the Sony A7s.) That’s the only downside I see.
Occasionally I see some rolling shutter effect when using silent mode with my GX7, but it’s not common.
The electronic shutter, depending on its implementation, can reduce the flash sync speed. However, m43 is hardly a strobist system, so it probably won’t matter to you.
Does anyone know where the specifications are for the FL-LM3 flash i.e. guide No. etc, are? I can’t seem to find them anywhere on the online previews.
Yes, it was 24 feets if I now remember correctly. It was stated in dpreview comments. Not huge but OK’ish.
According to the B&H listing, it’s 30′ at ISO 100. So, brighter than the E-M10 built-in flash, but dimmer than a battery-powered one. The LM1 and LM2 (included with PENs) have a guide number of 23′ at ISO 100.
Now I want all of that on an Em1 II 🙂 (ok, aside for the swivel screen)
I take the 25fps first for E-M1 and I am happy. The E-M1 II can come then when ever Olympus wants 😉
But if E-M1 II does have that same swivel screen, no deal.
It will get these features and more, I’m sure, but we will probably have to wait quite a while. I may be wrong, but Oly probably has the E-M1 on a 3-year product cycle, so we may be looking at Photokina 2016 release. The swivel screen will almost certainly make it to the E-M1mk2. It’s definitely not a deal breaker for me, though I do like the current tilting screen better.
OK, so out of curiosity, what do you folks dislike about the swivel screen? For me, it was (E-3, E-5) handy for taking shots from odd perspectives (near the ground or at arms’ length above my head) in portrait orientation. The current E-M1 will let me do that, but only in landscape. Plus, the swivel screen allows you to “park” the display against the back of the camera body — protecting it when not in use.
Not to put down anybody’s preference, I’m just trying to understand what you dislike about it.
I use swivel Panny and though I like the protection aspect and occasionally the odd perspective value, I dislike the off to the left video-like viewing in tilt mode. Seems just a little odd and in the way of left hand lens operation. I’d just prefer the waist level tilt for steadiness and straight ahead viewing. Just a preference, not a deal breaker. I actually like the bottom articulated screens of Sony A series SLT’s…
As Earl said, waist level shooting is atrocious with a swivel screen and the level of freedom it grants otherwise is nullified by remote wifi shooting, and nowadays with gorilla glass there’s no need to protect the screen anymore, the only application where swivel is really needed is in video, which makes sense now that it has improved. A good middle ground solution was implemented by sony in their A65, best of both worlds.
Another Review on Russian with lots of pictures and video:
http://catode.ru/olympus-om-d-e-m5-mark-ii-review-test/
Isn’t it great when, in a week when Canon gave us its next offering in the consumer market that appears at least 2.1/2 years behind the times, Olympus manages to surprise and delight us? Seems Olympus listens more than other camera makers too: having seen how next to useless these tilt-only screens have been, Olympus has taken Panasonic’s lead to heart with a fully-artic screen. Just a pity “EM5 Mark II” is such a mouthful. I shall not rush to change my EM1, but on this showing the EM2 when it appears will be a cracker!
Tilt-screens are not useless, only for wannabies who want to record video from shoulder level or use heavier rigs. And you often see that the video horizon isn’t even steady when they operate their cameras that has fully articulated screen.
You misquote: my words were “next to useless” which is a comparitive statement of trying to wield these less-flexible, one-plane manipulations after the ease and relative freedom of the fully-artic screens of my earlier Panasonics. If tilt-only is fine for you, I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t shoot video.
Yeah fully articulated screens are nice and all but when it comes to street or candid photos they’re less preferable than tilt-only screens, just having a screen hanging on the side is enough to alert everyone. Oh and BTW, Olympus might be an innovator, sure, but to say that they listen to their customers is an overstatement. They’re are a reactive company, only years after a feature is demanded do they listen, and even then that’s not a guarantee (still no PEN with EVF).
Read me again: I said “listens MORE than others” – in an absolute sense, NO camera company listens much to photographers’ desires at all !! Not even their dealers. To tilt or not to tilt – it’s up to each one differently. I have used both and in a speed or reaction test, a side-hinged fully-artic screen has beaten a tilt screen every time. You do it your way, I’ll do it mine. Doesn’t give me a problem.
I read you well and clear, I’m just not agreeing with you, I think Olympus listen LESS than others (look at Fuji or Sony). I love Oly but they’re one seriously stubborn company, they innovate in areas where no one was expecting anything but also neglect much more obvious areas of demand (no new sensor for years until EM5, no proper video for years until EM5II, no PEN with EVF, etc).
The great thing about free speech is, you’re free to disagree, and I don’t mind. If you have a problem with Olympus, why not go talk to Fuji or Sony? Or why not just enjoy the stuff that mirrorless is giving you these days? Life’s too short……
Yeah, the name is the problem…
Blah! TWO wideangles by summer and no 300 f4! The wideangles could come out in 2016 for all I care, I need supertelephoto!
Let’s face it, after more than 15 years of digital camera evolution, we have yet to see a camera that truly fulfills our needs. Image quality and performance is still barely adequate for serious photography. Film technology and film cameras never achieved it either, before digital cameras killed the market. When will someone develop a camera that makes it worthwhile to pursue photography? I have followed the camera market closely since the 1980’s, and still no camera has fullfilled the basic requirements we have for photography. It’s such a shame!
Sure there’s still lots to improve technologically, but it wont improve your photographs. You way too focused in cameras instead of photography itself…
I agree. I’d love to take photographs, but I’ve yet to see a camera that can meet my requiremtns. Shame, so many great moments have passed, because the gear is awfully inadequate! The people who are taking photos nowadays must have such low standards.
Nice sarcasm 🙂
No offense, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
So true! I have never tried to grab an object I saw in a photo, thinking it was a real object. It’s always obvious to me that I’m looking at a photo, and not reality. Image quality is so inadequate!
LOL
Maybe you should consider ending your life, because what’s the point in living for 35 years in agony and stress because the world can’t meet your requirements.
Hail to you and hopefully for you there’s a life after this, or a parallel universe in which you are god.
What do you mean by “serious photography”? To me the only photography that can be called “serious photography” is for national defense and intelligence. We small people here have nothing to do with it.
About the crappiness of cameras: I know that Picasso used a FED-2.
http://v1.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/fontcuberta2/picasso/images/picasso.jpg
You “follow” the market? Please define what the “requirements” of photography are. And, please cite your sources.
Are you actually getting worked up by this flamer?
if you are speaking about photography in technological terms you may feel that way but the reality is that your mind and creative ability is the real aspect of photography that trumps everything else. If that is adequate then everything else should fall into place relatively easy.
Get a puppy.
Please explain what you need to fulfill you needs?
Before the room pet starts his many posts under many names attacking the new Oly camera and M43 in general (and you know he will), take a moment.
This new Oly is yet another M43 innovation. You can buy upscale like this, or pick up the highly underrated E-PL5 for under $350, or go with a Panny GH that’s been setting the standard for video for six years now. Add the fantastic array of great glass available to M43 users and we’re living in a golden age of mirrorless.
Our little pet has seen two terrible starts to the Canikon mirrorless effort despite their immense David vs. Goliath R&D and marketing departments. Canikon DSLR’s are truly the camera of the masses, and maybe that’s what makes him so sad… most are bought by soccer moms (and dads) that never take off their kit lens.
In a world of innovation, he’s drowning in a sea of big-box buyers.
Canikon makes some wonderful equipment, but they’re going to the lowest common denominator. M43 (and Fuji and Sony) are the innovators right now.
People that seek out sites like this want the path less traveled and innovation. That’s not Canikon these days.
So don’t get angry at our little pet. Make fun of him if you like (he must be a masochist for the daily beatings he takes), but he’s milling about with the white sneakers and khaki crowd.
We get the cool stuff.
I see the FFers asking to EM5IIers “hey, did you took that in hi-res mode?” ha ha ha
Oh dear, someone poked fun at you and your toy again. So many bad boys around.
That took less than an hour.
You are the perfect pet.
Right on time.
Right on time
Sooner or later somebody has to wake up. Good for the market, though. But hard times to catch up now… 🙂
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7079726133/photokina-2014-canon-interview-mirrorless-in-the-very-near-future?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=features&utm_medium=sidebar-block-Homepage&ref=features
Seriously…
http://camerasize.com/compact/#594,568,ha,f
Yeah, who wants to carry around big and heavy equipment? Size doesnt matter my wife keeps telling me. Its all about what you can do with it! Its very comforting to me anyway..
If your wife really tells you that, you should run for cover.
Would be a great camera with OSPDAF and reasonable price. But $100 more than the release price of E-M5, after yen fell 30%? That is just greed, and they will kill their own market with it.
The price is indeed surprising for the reasons you state. It probably won’t stop me from buying since I’ve invested so much in Olympus, but it will turn off many buyers at the margins. I’m also surprised the US doesn’t get any kit-lens option.
E-M5 price dropped quickly after one year, so it’s wiser to buy kit with PRO lens or just wait longer.
E-M5 actually held its price much better than any other camera I have seen. Serious drop only started a few months ago, 2.5 years after release.
Anyway, without OSPDAF I am not interested. And even E-M1 is cheaper. I never use a tripod, so “40 mpix” is a useless gimmick (although I would appreciate REAL higher res at least in the center of the frame for “digital zoom”). Also, 1-2 switch adds even more modality to the interface which is already too modal (i.e. BAD, if you know anything about interface design, you know why).
Tonight in HK’s promotional show, we saw that EM5II’s 40mp on stills are better than 36mp full-frame, and IBIS on video is much better than A7II’s.
LOL
Nice try about stills quality. It is not even close due to limitation. The images will not be sharp for any moving target. Even the moving clouds will not be sharp.
Yip, yip, yip goes the little doggie.
Let it run my man, let it run!
Lol!
More like a little female doggie. Yer mum?
BTW, HK’s promotional price is pretty good
The E-M5 II is the prettiest camera I have seen online.
Mathieu published the most detailed review so far:
http://www.mirrorlessons.com/2015/02/05/olympus-om-d-e-m5-mark-ii-review-chapter-whats-new-whats-great/
The HR mode is interesting, but more limiting than I thought. Landscape scenes w water will cause artifacts, as shown there in the bridge night scene.
At first the video from the E-M5 MKII looks a bit mushy, soft and with poor DR but I hope it’s better than that because this would be a great sign for video and an even greater sign for what to come for a E-M1 MKII next year or so. I have some high hopes for this camera since I do need a run and gun for video but I also need a decently gradable file and controlled rolling shutter, it seems that rolling shutter won’t be a big problem but from some footages I watched, I’m a bit worried about the DR and overall resolution in video. The Runner from Olympus, the London Taxi short or even the sample footage from The Camera Store TV didn’t look that great but I’ll wait for further tests from some other videographers, I won’t rush into conclusion, even more because I hope this first impression is due to something else other than the real IQ from the camera.
What video are you referring to?
The Camera Store video has a section shot with the Em5-II… the DR on it is pretty bad, and the image looks very soft. The motion on it looks nice though with the stabilization and the reduced flicker… not to mention the other nice audio recording features. Its almost there, but a GH3 (since they are both 1080p) this camera isn’t.
I agree, the video I’ve seen so far is not impressive.
I was pretty happy with the video for what it is. It’s a 1920 8 bit 264 at 77 Mbits. With those parameters I think you can do some nice work with it and the IS is next level good. you can take a look for yourself here. https://vimeo.com/118774389
jb
Funny how I just started reading your article few minutes ago – I haven’t finishied yet – before I stumbled into your reply. And this is what I was waiting for when I talked about waiting for videographers to start exploring this camera. I’ll to finish reading your article but from this sample I can say it looks much better than the previous samples I watched, some of the scenes are quite challenging in the highlights and you chose a more contrasty profile style, have you played enough to explore grading wit more nuances of light and less contrast? Thanks!
I actually created my own flat custom profile.
I then created this look in post through grading. I shoot a flatter LOGish profile to then try and get as much DR as I can.
What I actually asked about less contrast situations would be with a bit more controlled light, interviews for instance since your shots were basically in open sky with already challenging contrast. I wanted to know if in these situations with controlled light, less contrast, if you could get more nuances of colors, soft skin tones, etc. Anyway, thanks for your time, I’ll take a look at the files you let for download and try to play with it a bit.
If you go to the end of the clip below you’ll see some studio controleld lighting scenes. You’ll also fid these file sin the downloads. It’s very nice I think 😉
https://vimeo.com/118769936
Thnk you very much!
You get the wrong stuff, it seems. Much too strong for you.
Yep, paying more for less quality is sooooo coooooool! Don’t forget to buy the extra grip to make it somewhat ergonomic, and make sure your noise reduction software is ready for any shots above 800 ISO. LOL!
Do you realize how pathetic you look when posting on a website centered around a system you supposedly don’t care about ? your sh*t doesn’t get to us you pathetic multi-log in troll. Get a life.
ADMIN WHEN THE FCK ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MFING TROLLS !?
Cool down, nobody picked on you yet. Strangely, let me add. Do you get that a lot?
THIS GUY is Upset. WOW!
The added grip is awesome. You see, it can be modular. Without it, you have a small inconspicuous body, or something light to take on a walk or hike with a small prime lens. Add the horizontal grip for larger lenses or extended use. Then add the portrait grip/extra battery for portrait shooting. It’s an incredible design, and so smart to use. It’s too bad a lot of other cameras can’t do this and give the user “options”! But you’ll sadly never know what an EM-5 without or with a grip feels like (or what a woman feels like), because you give all your McDonald’s paycheck to your mom while you live in her basement. That’s why you’re so angry and trollish. If you’re nice, maybe someone will give you their used EM-5.
Video iq is so so, very disappointed! Tests so far say that the video is on par with EM-10 which has actually worse video than E-M1 or E-M5!!! (E-M5 video was very detailed, but the codec broke apart too often.) I was ready to get this but will go with Sony A7S instead. The Oly stabilization is amazing, what a waste!
Also Samsung NX500, true 4K for 799$ makes EM-5 II video that more disappointing.
Not to mention the absurd GH4, which costs 2000 EUR in Europe.
An intelligent forum must be open and civilized. I find it ridiculous that any critique is treated as “trolling” (whatever that means) and negative comments are often deleted or answered vulgarly. However, things are not so, and this smells commercial: it looks like the forum’s sole purpose is to improve sales.
As a result, there will be smarter folks either shunning the forum entirely, or taking the mickey. This is life. And I doubt this will sway more buyers towards m43; quite the contrary. It has surely held me back, so far.
I wonder what “troll” comments are being deleted. Because I see a ton of very obvious troll comments where people (most likely 1 guy) are just posting up on every article about how “DSLR is the best”. I don’t think anyone would leave this “forum” because those comments are being deleted (which since I see them, they aren’t being deleted). They don’t add much to the conversation. I also regularly see a lot of legitimate complaints or concerns following new releases of cameras for the system.
Comments are sometimes deleted, but often when a thread is already a day or two old. That’s too late, IMO, because the damage is already done. Troll comments should be removed before people start to argue with the troll, or a flame war gets started. Of course, that would require active moderators, that could do what our busy admin hasn’t time to do.
Agreed. Any negative news, even if based off fact, is attacked. Sad that even when it’s Panasonic news, That’s attacked by Olympus fanboys.
It’s only going to deter photogs away from this site and system. I know I’m almost there.
The probkem, MrALLCRAP, is that you simply are a troll. Don’t try to flatter yourself. You offer nothing to this Forum, and certainly no “facts”. As for describing yourself as a photographer, that’s a joke too. Take your own hint and leave, along with the “smarter” troll above you. You two are made for eachother.
And you are a cuunt.
Thanks, I don’t respond to fools who can’t spell and pretend to be photographers…
Yawn..
Criticism isn’t about negativity, it is about what is done well and how can other things be improved (telling it in teaching style).
People just believe that critic is about pointing negative sides, bad sides and pointing out what was wrong .
Ummm….you obviously are clueless as to the amount of trolling that happens here EVERY DAY.
I find it ridiculous that some critiques are obviously rude and contribute nothing, but others are not allowed to answer in same manner. If you want an intelligent forum, the critics have to be civilized too, don’t you think?
Give you an example: there is a pana crybaby below who whined about leaving M43 in Olympus discussion because Olympus new products made his toys worthless… it’s sad.
Unless posted elsewhere, checkout Olympus videos
http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/digitalcameras/omd/e-m5-mark-ii.html
I tried to find out if changing aperture and/or shutter speed is possible during video capture, has somebody noticed anything about this?
Yes, but you have to do it with the toutch screen I think I read here:
https://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/olympus-comes-in-from-the-filmmaking-wilderness/
tnx, found it!
Touch screen and variable ND filter. Video guys always have variable ND filter to control exposure, its easy and effective and can be done manually. Auto ISO does job well but, if you have very harsh difference you don’t want suddenly ISO to raise up to 3200.
I have variable ND but in my setup (on a bicycle) I find it a bit difficult to use, therefore I’d prefer a dial on a camera. I haven’t tried touch screen to set exposure, but it sounds difficult when on a bike.
I hate variable ND as it destroys picture quality.
“There was one thing that REALLY annoyed the hell out of me. When in
manual mode using Olympus lenses and once you’re rolling, you can’t
actually change the exposure using the dials like you would if the
camera wasn’t rolling. Instead, once it’s rolling, you have to access a
silly menu on the touch screen and then scroll to an exposure tool and
THEN dial it up or down on the touch screen. It’s insane and totally
impractical to do while you’re shooting.” https://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/olympus-comes-in-from-the-filmmaking-wilderness/
If you want that, you need a proper cam, like a Nikon or a Canon.
In m4/3, the Panasonic GH2 GH3 GH4 will give you aperture and shutter control during video capture.
Troll alert.
Or Fuji, Sigma, Pentax, Olympus, etc. Since they all make proper cameras.
Sorry, camerstore, I’ve decided to believe my lying eyes and not your speech about a “different process” for the em5 compared to the 645.
The 645 is much better. See, for example, the vertical grates right next to the WESTIN letters.bthey are almost completely distinct in the 645′ and almost completely blurred with the em5. Nice try, though
You are a fool. Both of these images are so damn close in quality it’s negligible. One taken with a $1,100 m4/3 sensor, one with a ~$7,500 MF sensor. Again, quit acting like a fool. The point is, it’s a phenomenal technology and it works as advertised. Go troll elsewhere.
Right. It’s phenomenal technology, and I did not see the clear difference in resolution that I saw. The fact that one picture was taken with a $7,500 sensor and the other with a $1,100 sensor means I cannot see any meaningful difference because it would not be fair if I did. Yes, very logical, moron.
And how much is the 645 again? Like 10 grand?
If somebody chooses, for whatever reason, to compare to the 645, that doesn’t mean you close your eyes to a difference found
For the price, I was looking into a Canon 6D (about equal price, but 4x the sensor, same speed if you ignore the oof shots, superior seeker, superior image quality, superior system, superior flash system, superior lens system, cheaper lenses). Can anybody advise on the pros and cons?
You for got to mention 3x the size and 3x the weight. If you dont need ultra compact for travelling or to have with you all the time then the 6 is a good ça go for it!
If you scroll to the top of the page you can find a link called “Canon Watch” they should be able to help you there
Before considering the pros and cons, you should consider the type of photography you will be doing. And if you didn’t already know that, stick to your camera phone.
So does it have 30 minutes limit?
In Europe it will probably have the 30 min restriction.
I has something to do with import tax, without restriction you would pay more.
Too expensive for some evolutions! I was waiting for more pixels. The multi shot use seems efficient but too restricted (not for traveller!).
Step one, I keep my EM5 . Step 2: I am looking SONY alpha (with now some good lens).