Nokishita leaked those images of the E-M5II with HLD-6P and HLD-8G grip and a new FL-LM3 flash. Camera and accessory will be announced during the first week of February! Stay tuned on 43rumors!
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For the first time Im thinking the black looks better…
Hmm. Well – The blacks always looked better (together with the grips) – At least it was the case with the E-M10 (I had in all black together with the grip because of that fact). Otherwise I also like the silver / black more (more vintage look). Also the GM1 for example looks quite nice in silver / black (together with the silver HGR-1 grip) ^^.
I think my silver E-M5 look better than the black, but this time there is so mutch going on on the top with all silver dials and more silver over all. This time Im going for black (if 60p, if…if..).
Most important decision: check!
The more I learn, the more I like it. I prefer the black look. I could buy something next week if I wanted to, but will wait to see exactly how this shakes out. If the 40mp pixel shift functions works out as well as it does on Hasselblad. Then that may be the defining feature for me. Doesn’t need to work with action, but ideal for landscape (with little or now wind) architecture, studio, etc, while the 16mp is good enough for everything else. The icing on the cake will be a somewhat better video function, even if it isn’t top drawer. Like the 2 piece grip option also. Was thinking EM-1 but this might change my mind. — If this has the same viewfinder as the EM-1, and it looks like it might, then it will just about be a done deal. Just waiting on final full specs.
Looks great (!) Now let´s hope for good prices – AND upgraded video features ^^.
So the HLD-6 for the original E-M5 won’t fit the E-M5II after all. The new grip does look even nicer, though, and it seems the two pieces (horizontal grip plus battery/vertical grip) which came in one package for the E-M5 can now be bought separately as HLD-6P and HLD-8P? That would be an improvement, too.
The new flash (will it be part of the package?) is bigger compared to the FL-LM2 which shipped with previous OM-Ds, while the reflector as such doesn’t seem to be much larger, so the flash probably won’t be much more powerful. It seems Olympus has not designed a new power connection (the Accessory Port, which used to include one, has been dropped, as we already know) and the new flash may need its own battery again. On the plus side, the flash seems to have a both horizontally and vertically rotating/swiveling head! That would be a nice improvement. I can already see me buying one for my E-M1, if it will be compatible and separately available…
Oh, and while I still, all in all, don’t really like the overly retro OM-D-style camera design, the black E-M5II doesn’t look too ugly, either. I like it more than the silver pics which could be seen earlier.
It could be there are one or more new contacts on hotshoe tself. This would enable camera to use this flash for remote triggering of strobes, and eventually even power this added flash
The portrait grip you already have, you only need to buy the HLD-8P part (this is the grip for normal landscape mode, the grip between the camera and the battery grip part
solid body but why battery cell part smaller than body?
info sources of olympus had good job, em-5 II will release on next month but some specs and image look clear -out.
info sources of lumix had failed new GF will release on next week but specs still unknown, and absolute no image too, no information as least one.
oh god.
Not sure this is a matter of sources. It probably means Olympus regards leaks as part of their marketing campain, while Panasonic does not.
I agree! Much of what I see on all Rumor Sites, look like thinly disguised press releases. With the popularity of Rumor Sites, it makes sense to feed them info.
In the advertising business they say “throw it at the wall, and see if it sticks.” Sorta sound like FT1 rumors to me.
yeah if it true,lumix’s marketing was failed because customer can not choose their cams on 1 hour , now it world of social-information network customers will watch / read before they paid, leaked info / rumors make them push that cam in list ,they were knew specs to decision.
This is because the battery part is the existing HLD-6P (the portrait grip) which can be attached to the ne HLD-8P part , needed due to slightly different camera grip angle.
Well, another grip, another dollar. Really don’t like this strategy.
Add the annoying fully articulated screen and my motivation to buy this camera moves in direction zero. Now, only a C-AF on the level of the GH4 could possibly get me back in the boat. Seems this isn’t a camera for me.
I really, really like a Flippy Screen. Most of my work is portrait orientation, much of it at knee level (too low to use the EVF). I’ve always used a Canon Angle Finder on my Canon cameras. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183200-REG/Canon_2882A001_Angle_Finder_C.html I find it much easier than laying down in the dirt/mud.
Best for that is the Sony SLT-77 display as it is like current but allows vertical rotation for few situations.
No need to really get fully side way articulated hinge as it’s easily broken and it’s bad for everything else than video.
I like the Canon 70D Flippy Screen http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/986389-REG/canon_8469b002_canon_eos_70d_dslr.html Looks like the Olympus E-M5-2 will be about the same.
I’ve had a camera with side hinge screen for 9 years. No problem. Very sturdy and works great.
This new updated EM5 is looking better and more desirable with each new info post. I think it will not dissapoint the majority and looks to be as much an instant ‘classic’ as its forbears.
What with this and the new forthcoming lenses the OMD line is really developing into an excellent DX /APSC replacement system, for me at any rate.
Lets all hope the new price is also in line with the market.
IMO if they want to sell this cam to people who are new to the system it must be 20 maybe 30% extra from the street price now.
..sorry I meant ‘disappoint’ – typo!
I’m not really liking how much the hand grip is adding to the height of the camera, it’s also a shame that they couldn’t recycle the HLD-6 for EM-5 owners.
Well actually the grip IS partly recycled, only the landscape grip part is new, the portrait grip is the same as the original one, so you’ld only need the HLD-8G part, the battery compartement you probably already have then!
I’m guessing the battery holder is the same, and the grip part is different to fit the re-designed body.
Also I suspect the flash is bigger because it has to contain it’s own batteries as there is no accessory port – probably AAAs. I wonder if the flash is claimed to weatherproof?
And it’s oh so ugly with the portrait grip.
Thank you very much.
The flash looks like it has a tillable upper part. 🙂
That would explain its more “serious look”
Yes it does look as though it both tilts and swivels. Much more useful. Personally I don’t care for the built-in flash. Always too weak and to limited. I seldom use flash but when I do, I need the real thing.
Seeing how we have just heard of a new small tilrable Metz I can see the year 2015 being finally tje year of small usable tultable and swivable flashes.
The new Metz haz GN26 and looks smaller than this.
Hopefully this will be the same.
Probably wont come boxed in with E-M5II though. Hopefully it will be around 130$ like the new Metz is.
That should also make Nissin i40 drop their price even if it is GN40 and ha great battery life.
Good times in accessories world.
Won’t happen, I think. i40 is way above and has currently no competition afaik.
Compact bounce-tilt accessory flash is nice and long overdue. Built-in flash still has its place, though. Even some pro SLRs have pop-up flash. So did E-PL1 and 2. Olympus needs more built-in flashes, like Sony, Fuji and Panasonic.
Built-in flashes suck and have no place in a camera except the ultra low cost rubbish for beginners.
You simply don’t know how to use one.
They can be used to trigger off-camera flash, thought. So it’s not that bad, they can be useful.
Built-in flashes can be quite useful, esp as fill-in for harsh sunlight or as trigger for a big flash. I prefer to have one, but it must be well controllable like in the OM-Ds.
Definitely, I feel that tilting head is a must. I’ve got myself a proper flashgun (FL36R), and what a difference it makes. I really had no idea. I’m just a casual shooter, and I got a hang of the basics in a few minutes. And my indoor photos became much more pleasant with practically no effort on my part. That was probably the best buy I made. Nice to see Olympus making a compact model like this. I would probably be very happy with it.
That’s one UGLY ass grip.
Cool, at least half the grip is re usable. Hopefully this new portion is under a hundred dollars.
So, E-M5 still does not have a flash built-in…
I wonder if that FL-LM3 still requires accessory port, as there is seems to be none on E-M5. And if not, how is it charged? If it can be charged from the regular hot shoe, why FL-LM2 used accessory port?
Look the size of that flash as it hold own batteries. More power but bigger and higher for better flash for pop up.
Yes, looks like it.
WOW!!!! just more and more complaints…. pathetic.
I think this camera is very cool. I would buy it with just the HDL-6P to complement my existing E-M1 with grip. I could go out with an uber-small kit with lenses from fisheye to 840mm equivalent (with coming new Olympus 300mm f/4 + 1.4x). With incredibly sharp and fast-aperture primes and pro zooms all in one camera bag..what incredible fire power…and NOW with capability of capturing 40mp for still images. MFT just keeps getting better.
I think that this is a FANTASTIC step forward. I may just sell off my FF equipment. I have to see how this develops…and I bet that there may be some more surprises. I hope that they are all as good as the rumors that have been leaked already!!!!! What’s not to like?
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Yes, the Olympus 300mm f/4 + 1.4x will be an awesome combo. Great for Surfing Shots.
hook it up with the EM-1 water housing and you got it goin on! 🙂
Probably won’t fit with a water housing, because it’s too big and pretty much useless. No one needs a long Telephoto for underwater shots. For surfing you just need a housing, a fast wide angle prime, a leash a mask and some flippers.
Sorry…I was not clear.
I meant having an EM-1 with the Oly 300mm and the 1.4x on the beach
AND also
Having the EM-1 with a water housing with appropriate lens
Would be a great combo to attract the surfing world with.
GREAT small tools!
I know.. I have lots of surf shooting experience.
That was meant to be “attack the surfing world”
I hate spell check! LOL!
A bit better than the silver one but still ugly.
It is AWESOME looking. AND..it will produce files that can make huge prints! 🙂
I like the look of that.
Like Vader, it reminds me of.
Yes small green one, Star Wars theme they have going..
Get the job done, Vader did.
Looks good, expect the bottom grip (HDL-8G) which looks a bit smaller than it should.
I think the name is wrong; it should be OMD EM5 MK1.5 it is not enough for a MKII
WHAH.
I think your expectations (if you actually have any) are bordering on stupidity.
Calling him stupid is being generous.
I think you read it wrong, it ain’t “E-M5 Mk2” but it is “E-M5II”, without “Mk”. Huge difference.
Yes, they need to leak more specs before naming it E-M5 II..
Bundle with the 14-140 for $1199 and I’ll give it a go.
Yeah, just noticed
Even uglier than E-M1
You are ridiculous.
It seems to have a matte finish.
Looks good ! I want to see this E-M5II + HLD-6P grip with the 12-40 f/2.8 !
I really like how they polished the controls (knobs, buttons), up to E-M1 standard (not PEN like the original E-M5). The two-part grip is what to me makes the E-M5s even more attractive than the E-M1. An absolute transformer of a camera. Seeing all this and the rumoured video improvements and clean HDMI output, I’m really looking forward to the E-M1 replacement. The lack of Accessory Port means either of two things to me: complete departure from the PEN line or no more external EVFs. After all, that’s pretty much all that the AP was useful for (I know all the other accessories but their usefulness is disputable). The FL-LM2 was small, but then again too low for say the 12-40 lens, and fiddly with its cap and the AP cap. Also this will make the hump smaller. I think this is what you call streamlining.
Olympus knows how to make a sexy looking camera! Can’t wait to get one even though i have Em5 and Em1.
No built-in flash: plus
Swivel instead of tilt screen: minus
No 4K: minus
Same old Sensor: minus
better looking design and more buttons: plus
new grip required: neutral
better video bitrate: plus
So far its a draw for me, I do wonder though if the buttons are as bad as on the old E-M5 (small, squishy) or as good as on the E-M10/E-M1…
I think it is safe to say that the buttons are updated. Just look at the photos…the is a seriously refined camera from what I can see. If you are a fan of the Oly Retro look…this camera looks like a hearty upgrade that will stand by and perhaps outshine the other family members. Don’t you think?
I’m currently not really in the market for a new camera as my E-M10 still works fine after ~120k photos taken but should I be then this could be a contender, given the price is right.
I do think that in this day and age Oly cannot demand a premium for a 3+ year old sensor and with the competition being as good as it currently is.
Anyway, I looked at the E-M5 and its buttons when it came out and they were a dealbreaker to me. Not because of the layout but because they were way too squishy, small and also unpleasant to press. The E-M1 on the other hand had great buttons (except the “play” button) and I thought those of the E-M10 to be even better (could be subjective or due to the lacking weather sealing which makes things easier). So I do expect the buttons on the E-M5 II will be better than those of the old E-M5, but I guess I’ll have to wait and see for myself when I can get my hands on one of them.
🙂
I would have two main reasons to buy the camera. I would like a second camera body to complement my EM-1. …and oh what a compliment if it will provide 40MP Images for still subject matter. Even though the sensor is not updated, its image capturing ability is. Significantly for this photographer. That is a lot of firepower in a very small package.
I think that the black body with the HLD-6P grip is very cool and substantial looking.
Can’t wait to hear about more specs! Sounds good so far.
The processing of images has been increased but I heard that from olympus before and was unfortunately somewhat disappointed by the end results as I just expected more (remember the 1 stop claim E-M5 -> E-M1?) so I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much. There is just so much the processing can do and Olympus is already quite good at that from the start so there is less headrom for following iterations.
The 40mp with a tripod might be good for certain kinds of photography but it remains to be seen how well it is implemented. Oly is an innovator so I hope its good.
As a secondary body it might complement your E-M1 quite well, but for me it just lacks more tangible features (4K, better sensor), so I won’t pull the trigger on it, but I am also looking forward to more specs as it might raise the bar and expectations towards the E-M1 II (which hopefully will have a new sensor and appear in one year and not only in agonizing two).
I only shoot stills so the video is not at all considered by me.
I am most excited by the large megapixel aspect of the camera for still images. That is an incredible asset to a still shooter regarding this small camera system. Incredible. ….depending on quality of output. We shal see.
It is lame that there is not a upgrade in the sensor…but we do not have complete info or any reviews yet.
Swivel + tilt screen: plus
50p/60p + better quality video: plus
Focus peaking with video: plus
E-M1 EVF: plus
Fast electronic/global shutter: plus
2×2 dials: plus
More buttons: plus
Better grip: plus
Wifi: plus
40 mp: plus
Better IBIS: plus
No flash: plus
Same sensor: plus (means that the above is likely to be true, or they would have settled with a weather sealed E-M10 with new sensor and 5-axis IBIS)
No pdaf and 4k: plus (same reason as above, means they could ease up on more useful stuff)
Well, tbh many of your plus decisions are rather questionable.
Swivel + tilt screen: It’s a simple swivel, not a tilt (there is a difference except for very few implementations), which for quite a few is actually a downgrade (slower, less inconspicuous for street shooting, larger bezel, etc.)
Focus peaking with video: Focus peaking is highly overrated and only the best implementations (not olympus) are barely usable as its just not precise enough at larger apertures
Fast electronic/global shutter: There is a difference between the two and I doubt it has the first and am nearly sure it doesn’t have the latter or what is your source for that?
Better grip: That remains to be seen and I reserve judgement until I held it in my hands or what do you base that on?
Wifi: Today not having Wifi is a doa nowadays but it is a plus…if its implemented well (never worked on my e-10)
40 mp: nobody but oly knows how it works and if it works well. Until I’ve seen it its nothing but marketing bla bla to try to divert attention from the old low-res sensor
Better IBIS: I doubt it, but I reserve judgement until I’ve tested it
Same sensor: That is a definitive minus as its just too old. There are APS-C sensors with almost twice the mp nowadays so sticking to that old thing is a definitive very large minus!
No pdaf and 4k: That as a plus is just plain dumb. You quote improvements for video as plus before but say lacking those features that greatly help in that department is actually a plus? pdaf helps with focussing (no more searching with cdaf and oly sucks at video for that) and 4k downsampled to 2k delivers stellar results and are a definitive must-have for a camera that has another life-cycle of 3-5 years. Not to mention that 4k would increase sales (I would have bought it, if it had 4k, but not like this) and therefore decrease the price for everybody!
And as for your crash landing remark, well, it appears to me you don’t even get off the ground in the first place…
🙂
“An anonymous source told us Olympus next MFT camera will have a
mechanical shutter that will do 1/16000. And there is also an Electronic
shutter for 1/32000. Sounds like this could find his way in the new
E-M5!”
http://www.43rumors.com/ft3-new-olympus-mechanical-shutter-will-do-116000-and-electronic-for-132000/
“Nobody knows … Untill I have seen it is marketing blabla …”
Well you count it as negative because it is the same sensor ? It is just too early to tell whether the IQ will be improved by the sensor shit or not. My bet is that it will be interesting for non moving scenes ( stills, landscapes etc..) but not for people photography, or any things moving.
PDAF is not really adding much for those that don’t have FT lenses. DXO has demonstrated that MFT lenses are sharper on the E-M5 sensor than on the E-M1 and it produce a little less noise. I think it is due to in sensor PDAF. So yes, for some it is a plus.
As we are talking about rumors, we start off airborne in the first place. And I have definitely not landed after I bought my E-M5 almost 3 years ago 🙂
First, I dont think Oly will follow up one of their most successful cameras using the same “old” sensor without making it a worthy upgrade.
The simple swivel has something no other traditional swivel has: two gaps in the screen edge. Until I crash land, Im thinking the screen also tilt.
Focus peaking with video: Rumor has it that Oly will focus more on video, this should be fairly simple for them to implement as an option.
Fast electronic/global shutter: Im expecting an electronic shutter with the fastest readout to date, I cant see the 40mp using mechanical shutter. Global shutter, probably not, but this is Olympus, so you never know.
Grip: After years of holding the E-M5, I can feel the deeper curved upper grip on the II stick to my middle finger as Im holding the camera in my hand waiting for a picture opertunity.
Wifi: I want it to upload the jpegs pictures I choose to prosess from raw in camera, just very nice to have from time to time.
40mp: Im sure its a killer feature or Oly would not have leaked it as a new feature to their anticipated E-M5 upgrade.
Same sensor: Looking at dpreviews comparison tool, I cant see a difference in newer crop sensors worthy of an upgrade. 16mp is more than enough as well.
No pdaf and 4k: Im not in to doing major pp on video. Lucky for me Oly is more focused on what is important to me. 720p works fine on my TV (no network air more than 720p aroun her, and it looks great), so good 1080p will be just fine. I only use manual focus for video and dont shoot sports so I dont need pdaf. My hope is that the lack of 4k, pdaf and new sensor will mean that they really have to deliver on other features… What I want for video is 50p so I can do better half speed videos of my kids.
Why not join in on some air acrobatics before the launch?
Cheers!
The swivel is terrible design for anything else than VIDEO CAMERA.
With video camera you need to get display at side so you can lower camera with one hand or up. That’s why it works so well on camcorders.
But on photography camera it is terrible as it moves your view away from optical axis and requires different handling where you can’t get good grip.
Sony SLT-77 has a great display if wanted to get vertical AND horizontal rotation. But it takes space and for small body it would make display smaller.
I wanna know if this new EM5 II silver model has improved the metal body or not? Cos the original EM5 feels a bit plasticky to me. I like how they made the metal body on the Pen E-P5 🙂
Original EM5 has a magnesium body, how can it feel “plasticky”?
Well, “experts” know that anything “silver” with “Olympus” label is plasticky, no meter what it is made from. If it would be gold plated, and peppered with Swarovski crystals, and labeled something else than “Olympus”, now THAT would be a “real” camera for “experts” 😉
Well, the “silver” finish of the existing OM-D cameras, including the silver E-M1, which I’ve inspected thoroughly at Photokina 2014, is some kind of coating which has nothing to with the magnesium the core of the body is made of. And, yes, compared to the real-metal silver finish of a seventies SLR it does look and feel somewhat cheap and plasticky, even though it may be durable and there’s magnesium underneath. Which is one of the reasons why I prefer the black version. Fuji, on the other hand, did manage to get that “titan” version of their X-T1 looking really nice, more like metal, but they need a complex process with five or six different coatings to achieve that, making the silver camera more expensive than the black one. So that I’d still be buying the black version, was I interested.
Back in the days of the analog SLR, the silver versions were the cheaper standard models, by the way, while, if available at all, the black versions were more expensive special versions of those cameras.
In the 70s there was no “silver” version.
What there was was a chrome version, with a real chrome layer covering the brass or whatever alloy. This chrome layer was hard and durable and metal.
Who knows what the ‘silver’ coating is. It may as well be plastic. One thing we know is that it is definitely not what it claims to be- silver. Another thing we know is that it is definitely not chrome, or they would tell us. Most likely it is some kind of plastic, which is why they go out of the way NOT to tell us. Who knows what it is.
In the 70s the black version cost $30 more than the chrome. The black was essentially a paint like coating over the brass alloy. Black costing more was fashion over durability. Of course, black coating wearing away and revealing shiney brass was a very cool thing, showing extensive hard use just like a real journo.
My understanding is that the champagne/chrome Ti models were in fact painted and were not chrome plated.
Right, that’s how it was… With one exception regarding the black finish: Leitz/Leica (for some models) and Minolta (for the XD11/XD7/XD, licensed from Leitz) used to offer a black chrome finish that was real metal, blackened with a special anodizing process… Beautiful.
Anodizing process is where metal surface is bombarded with other element atoms so they cover it. The surface becomes very tough (unlike paint) but it doesn’t get deep.
You can’t make a “black metal”, even every black Leica camera is just covered with color like Apple iPhones or any other colored camera that used anodizing process (instead painting).
Nothing fancy or special, Leica fans just paid few grands for couple dollar process.
You know that most “real -metal silver finish of seventies SLR” is same kind coating as today, and the bodies were not made from magnesium but from brass, and if you don’t know, brass is like gold/shampange by color, not silver.
There are few seventies SLR that bodies where drilled from aluminium like Olympus OM line, while Canon and Nikon (and almost everyone else) used a brass for bodies. And as you know, aluminum is silver by natural color. Why example black OM-4 wear out some places, while silver models kept their color and just got polished.
You would class yourself as one of these ‘experts’, no doubt…
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p794/An0nemu5/Forum/S4Ti_zps5b107ec3.jpg
Looks like the new flash can bound at least vertically! Nice.
Electronic shutter option Olympus.. come on.. you can do it… do it and that’s it. I am getting one.
A simple, i.e. “rolling” electronic shutter is not without ugly side-effects, as the Micro 4/3rds Photography blog showed with the GH3. To get rid of them, it would have to be a “global” electronic shutter, which, with large sensors, does not seem to be ready for market anywhere yet.
readout on 4ms can eliminate rolling effect
won’t wait Global Shutter for ILC sensor with long long time.
I am more than aware of the effects. I have been using one in the Pentax Q and Nikon 1 to good results- though the Nikon 1 has fast refresh. That doesn’t mean the option can’t be good.
So far no info about AF system. Do we get improved C-AF? I hope so…
Serious question, who is going to buy this camera for over a grand, if there are Better options out there?
fuji and Sony have APS-C cameras that surpass this camera, and with competitive prices, because we all know Olympus is going to charge over a grand, easily.
On top of that, it’s rumored that Fuji is making a cheaper X-T1, that may be under a grand.
And it’s the same old Sony sensor! Do they really think Olympus fans are THAT gullible?
And that 40mp stuff sounds like a gimmick, at best. With a M43 sensor? Sounds like a very noisy pic!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..
“Why Downsampling an Image Reduces Noise”https://photographylife.com/why-downsampling-an-image-reduces-noise
Noted, but it’s still a 16mp Four Thirds sensor.
Guess we’ll find out soon.
Doesn’t matter. Stacking removes noise and generate better sharpness. Even with same optics and same other settings.
A sensor shift isn’t limited by the optics, it generates higher resolution image regardless of the optics. Higher resolution allows to reverse other optical drawbacks like circle of confusion by eliminating it almost completely as there is more information to calculate details back.
Why sell of a ton of sweet m4/3 lenses to buy a new system that has an unoticable better sensor and bigger and worse lenses?
Why you need bigger and “better” camera that gives same image quality than this beast?
E-M1 gets to same quality in hard lighting environments as Nikon D800e or little better than Canon 1D C. Hell, E-M1 has even 11% better signal to noise ratio for same depth of field and shutter speed than Sony A7 and A7 II!!!
It is sad that some people have so small penis that they believe if they get bigger and heavier gear, they are more manly.
How much does it weight with the grips?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/marcram/15687898604/
It’s definately a handsome looking camera. A few questions nagging me though:
-Does it have the e-m1 evf or not? It’s amazing, there’s no way I’ll settle for anything less after having tried it.
– the extra grip looks like it might have a hole for the battery port or am I seeing things?? Never understood why the e-m5 didn’t have that, it basically made using it alone completely useless because you had to unscrew it every time when changing the battery…
– the old sensor is kind of a bummer, mainly for not having iso 100 available. Could this have been improved via the processor and wiring? I would have really liked to have pdaf too….
Can anyone answer these?
Hopefully the battery grip is like in E-M1 as that is best.
Many dislike the 1+1 battery design beceause they want to drain both batteries at once and then swap the both batteries (and at that moment camera is turned Off).
While the 1+1 design is much better by my experience (IMHO) as you configure camera first to draw power from grip, not from the body. Then there comes different situations like:
1. You want to swap in the fly to smaller body so you just de-attach the grip and you have one battery in body so you can just keep going without hassle on batteries to get one in body.
2) You have always a camera with power to keep going in fast situations, even when you were middle of the battery change for the grip, because body has the backup battery. This is very great when working with extra-long monopod where you can’t use any quick plates, or why not with tropods as you can just scroll grip out and have very light discreet handheld camera.
3) In timelapse shooting, you don’t need to buy or build a external battery to draw enough power for long time shooting. As you configure camera to take timelapse shots and then you know that you need to come back after X amount of time to swap battery to grip. The camera continues shooting drawing power from body while you open grip and swap battery, and when you lock the hatch the camera change to draw power from fresh grip battery and body battery keeps staying as backup.
4) You always need just to handle a one battery, not two. It isn’t good to place one full battery with one empty. So when you are shooting weddings etc and the grip battery is getting empty, you only needed to have a one extra in the pocket at that moment (not two) and as 1) and 2) you just can keep going while you have grip battery door open. Then you just at some moment get to gear and place old one away and take new one to pocket.
You can’t do those with grips that holds two batteries in at once and sticks a power mount inside a body battery space (requiring to remove the battery hatch etc).
You get easily in situations where you need to take shot so drop batteries, place camera away and swing a backup camera to take the shot.
The bad side? The body 1/4″ isn’t center with focal point, requiring little adjustments for panorama to get parallax error fixed.