There may be a good reason why the GF6 kit now sells for $349 only at Amazon US (Click here). According to one source the Panasonic GF7 will be announced mid of next week already! It will have the 12-32mm as kit lens. Price is yet not know and exact specs unclear. All we know i that it will not record 4K like the LX100 does.
NO info yet on possible new MFT lenses.
On the other side Olympus will announce theE-M5II,14-150mm R and hopefully the7-14mm PRO lens during the first week of February.
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Very interesting that the 12-32mm is now the standard kit lens. That makes sense to me, as the the extra versatility of the wide will probably come in handy to more people than the short additional tele length (84mm eq. is really too short, anyway, so the difference from 64mm is not dramatic).
The 12-32 is a nice compact zoom which makes a lot of sense for the GF series. If it can also support 1080p60 with the latest sensor then this will become a nice less expensive solution to the GM series. It’ll be interesting to see what other changes Panasonic did to the form factor.
They should have gotten rid of the GF line and stuck with the GM1 series line or is the GF will be the new GM1 with updates.
GF7 (an updated GM1 )
GM5
LX100
GX8 (hopefully with mic and 4k)
G7 (hopefully updated, same as GX8 just different form factor)
GH4
It doesn’t really matter what they call it, but they need a entry level model with a decent feature set. Both GM5 and GX7 is too expensive for that role. A mix of features/design from GM1 and GF6 seems likely.
Exactly, GF and G lines are very important, crucial even!
As the are the means by which new blood is feed into the m4/3 system 😉
Given its price the GM1 is not an entry-level either. Hence the GF.
The GM are miniaturised gems but there’s no room for a tilt screen.
Personally, the GM1 lacks sufficient external controls to afford good user functionality, I replaced it as my pocket camera with the E-PL7.
GM5 seemed like a step down from the GM1 with the lack of built in flash and still no tiltable screen. I’m not sure why it was released, seems like a prototype of a GM update that wasn’t finished
The control dial is much better, and it has an EVF. Those two factors are enough of an improvement for a lot of people.
If you include the 1-inch LX100 then toss in the 1.2/3 LX7, the 1-inch FZ1000 and the 1.2/3 FZ200, all of which are very competent compact/bridge cameras
The GF series is more like the E-PL series whereas the GM are more like the E-PM. The GM1 is a truly tiny pack of cards size, the PM doesn’t really match up to it.
The GX and G-series have greater functionality than the Ollie Pens (E-P) thus placing them squarely against the OM-D, and the GH4 sits above as the professional model vs near rival E-M1 (which I’ve had bits fall of of).
The GF6 is the beige Camry of M43. Solid, dependable and boring.
At the least they have to use the GX7 sensor and introduce at a reasonable price.
lx8 please
we knew about em5II and 7-14mm pro about 5 months ago,
but about lumix body or lens trust source can not send info before product released,
notice 1 year ago (2014) no info after admn post lumix MFT rumors WHY?
admin please test your trust source again ,thank (Hello World , Hello World)
Next week ?
Then why it still no image of the camera ? Wondering it’s new design or remain as it’s predecessor .
I think the 12-32 is a great lens to include, put that pretty much guarantees a launch price of at least $699.
12-32 translates as “expansive”. It’s not the best choice for entry-level cam. So there will be only premium GX and GH with the cheapest 14-42. Funny
Odd that Panasonic would only release a GF model when the GX7 now shows up as discontinued as a model without a lens on B&H photo and is out of stock on Amazon. My educated guess is that stores are clearing inventory for a new GX model.
What is the price point for the GF? If GX still lives then the camera without a lens is $500, is the GF going to be materially below that? Why bother producing another camera model which just lowers the profitability of the business unless the GF is less than $400 to spur demand?
Cheap as per MSRP
Considering the gm1 asking price is $900, I’m guessing the gf7 is not going to be cheap.
You are wrong .
GF7 definitely cheaper than GM5 , should around the price of a5100 & EPL7 .
Relax. “not cheap” does not translate to “more than the gm1”. I’m just saying Panny cameras are EXPENSIVE at launch. This will be too.
No chance this is <$699 at launch with the 12-32.
Because there still pretty of GF stubborn fans that reject everything except a new GF .
Maybe factor like to compete against EPL7 is taking into consideration as well .
So GF7 is needed to the respond .
The GX7 is NOT discontinued: B&H have not paid Panasonic’s last bill and can’t get any more until they cough up; this often happens when a store is going titsup.
I am looking forward to a GX8, with hopefully 4K, improved IBIS, Electronic first curtain, and lower long exposure noise.
What improved IBIS ?
One should dare to dream of 5 axis since GX direct rival , a7000 by rumor already got it .
The GX can’t live up to expectation without 5 axis nowadays .
Well…Of course that’d be nice. Better if Olympus and Panasonic would just consolidate their camera businesses.
4k and wobbly sensor are mutually: OIS lenses are effectively 5-axis
Sony have OSS lenses, only the A7ii has IBIS. Sony own part of Olympus. Olympus warn of hot pixellation when shooting video.
OIS lenses are 2-axis, jefrs. Only one Canon macro lens has 4 axis. 5th axis cannot be made in a lens in principle – no matter how you rotate the elements, it does not rotate light.
4K….. 4K….. 4K….. 4K….. 4K….. 4K….. 4K….. 4K….. 4K….. !!!
Ah well…. one can dream, maybe the GF8 will get it!
Ok . Ok .
Whatever you want , we can deliver later by firmwares upgrades .
Buy it first .
It will just be a GM5 that ate too much
Panasonic marketing in all of it’s glory. 🙁
Putting out a GF7 when no one is asking for it and ignoring the thousands demanding a G7 for over an year now…
Well, Panasonic have access to their own sales data, don’t you think? If they continue the GF line, but not the G line, then we can safely assume that the former did better commercially.
However, we don’t know if a G7 is in the works or not. It might be…
They do indeed but I think those numbers only portrait Panasonic as a victim of it’s own product line.
Who would buy a G6 when only 3 months later the GX7 came out with a much better sensor and IBIS? What were they exepcting? To sell truckloads? I waited and waited for those improvements to get to the rest of the line, just to find out there is no rest of the line, and that IBIS is for no-one (Not for GM1, not for GH4 nor for GM5)…
I’ll tell you one thing, if the sensor readout on the Olympus E-M5 mk II is anything near half decent, I’m back to Olympus, because Panasonic is not after me.
If you want a DSLR-like camera, there is always GH. GH3 is actually better than any G7 could possibly be without competing with GH4 (you don’t expect G7 to be GH4 for half the price, do you?)
GX7 needs an upgrade (most of it could be done in firmware, but it is not Pana way), not the failed G6 concept.
I know all that, but I’m not willing to carry or pay for a big and heavy and weather sealed GH3 when all I needed was a G7.
Yes, I did expect that, because from the same prism, G6 was nearly a GH3 for half the price.
I know that’s my problem but I’m not asking much, all I wanted was the GX7 innards on the G6 body. Nothing more, not even 4k.
GH3 is not that much bigger than would-be G7 with IBIS from GX7. And given that it is now half the price of GH4 or less, you get weather-sealing for free.
And if feature-wise you want GX7, why not buy GX7? Corner EVF is more ergonomic anyway (unless your nose was surgically removed), plus it even tilts.
Yes GX7 is perfect, it ticked every box in my check list and them some I didn’t even asked for. But then I went to a store and held one. What can I say? I couldn’t grip it confortably, no matter how I tried it (and I’ve got very small hands). My GH2 has a perfect ergonomy. A friend’s G1 also. And when you are shooting video it becomes even more important to have a T&S screen.
GH3 doesn’t have IBIS nor does it have any tangible benefit (in my case) over the GH2 (except for a little better sensor) that justifies exchanging cameras.
I wasn’t signing in but the video IQ on the E-M5 MK2 is close to my GH2, it will be hard not to consider it.
IBIS in GX7 is as good as useless anyway, for example, it does not work on preview or “when you shoot video”. Your problem with grip can be easily solved by a cheap 3rd party grip. I am honestly at loss what features of GX7 are missing for you in GH3, except the underdeveloped IBIS, if you actually prefer DSLR-like ergonomics and fully-articulated screen. Better sensor, better raw buffer, more power flash, longer battery life, more advanced controls, weather sealing… the thing as good as a cheap G7 could never be.
12-32 does not have nearly enough reach. They need 50mpix sensor for that to crop. 🙂 And their previous 14-42PZ is not wide enough, but at least goes to classic portrait length. How much bigger 12-42 would be, really? Without stupid PZ of course.
The 12-32 is a great lens though even if it might not be as far reaching as you’d like. I got it with my GM1 and its great, I use it all the time. It got pretty much universally great reviews for its image quality so I’m not surprised they are pushing it with all of their cameras now. Its almost surprising that they don’t sell it separate (officially) yet.
Is the skill of a camera…tO BE BIGGER ore a bit SMALER? That is all?
So.. why do they make such a joke and not push the LX 100 bring it to
the mid time point of sale price 500,- $ and that is it. Clear the sortiment
( much cars are not more sortiment, as we sse in BMW.. they do nearly
all not to sell me the right car/ but yet they thing global…shangahi …but
i am near nürburgring in germany and..forget it)
Next was if Lx-100 and the Lense are 2 Parts ( and the lense is the new
starter lense = wouw waht for less money!!) so it is fine.
The GF/ is only okay if it costs 349,90,- the intern chip( lx100) fits out the
sharp full-hd then it is a fine.but if they go with 799 and all this marketingbullshit..
no– the same we see with SONY…they also trapp with their all 3monts soemthing
but nothing realy ready in this trap.. ( means also a to good A7000 is not good for
the 7000,-$ Fs-7 cinecam)( and someeon like JVC suddenly jumps with s35 cam
in this place-too expensive but..)
Do they all realy think we do not see waht happens and think i buy something because
of a name ore wee did it 300 years long? ( Canon speed, good photo-cams but the
claim of C300 must be fixed with all skills of nogo)–and then SAMSUNG, the supa massiv
bloatware MOnster fits in the exxelent NX-1 .. and next is a NX-500 with all i need
for good 4k base and all for 500-600,-$??hm?
ADAPTER on it and waht ever NIKON / SAMYANG/ ZEISS old ones… waht ever.
Think Samsung runns in its own new trapp.
THE G7 whre is it?
I BUY it becahue i geht a GH4 for halve MONEY..
not because Panasonic is written on it.
a pig pile of waste….
Can you rephrase it? All of it, please?
I have no idea what you’re trying to say there. Weirdest comment ever.
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
GF = Girl Friendly attempt number 7
Only hope the sensor quality can be as good an Sony NEX!
Any Panasonic G7 rumors? I need a m43 video camera soon.