If yo own the GH4 you may be interested in this:
Atomos released the new Shogun 6.1 firmware update. You can download it here: atomos.com/support/.
You can get the Atomos Shogun at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Atomos Shogun + Panasonic GH4 Comparison (4K)
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So explain to a video idiot, what’s an Atomos Shogun and why do you need one?
i don’t see any differences as well…
http://www.camerastuffreview.com/accessories/review-atomos-shogun
10 bit files have less posterization and survive much better PP.
And yet 99.x% of the viewers looks the footage from uncalibrated display that is 6bit or 8bit color capable!
And yet 90-99% of the camera owners has same problem!
How WONDERFUL!
ps. I belong to .x% class that has calibrated room, calibrated displays with calibrated cameras and pass 10bit requirement. Yet there is not a single valid reason to get Shogun.
The Shogun captures in Prores (LT, 422, or HQ) & eliminates the need to transcode.
That’s not entirely the point though. The extra bits are there so you have more options in post. Like multi-exposure 32-bit HDR or RAW, it’s about being able to choose which parts of the extra data will be shown within the limited 8-bit gamut, not about showing it all.
You need one to shoot 4K with the Sony A7s.
You need one to get a kind of 4K-Raw which can be improved over normal 4K in post.
It’s a question of time and cameras will be capable to record everything internaly.
In my world…ignorance is BLISS!
And what about new Gh4 firmware ? Come on Panasonic, wake up ! NX1 is here !
Looks nice. But no one owns the GH4.
Lol
This is the part where I say “I own one” and you say say “you’re no one” and we all laugh. At you, not with you.
lndistinguishable.
So what was the difference? I watched that from calibrated (yesterday last one) 4K monitor with 10bit capability and I couldn’t see a meaningful difference at all.
So why someone should go and buy a Shogun?
In order to see the difference you should download the original footage and heavily grade it. the following examples have the exact same saturation and curve applied, guess which is 10bit and which 8bit…
Again, this is graded beyond reasonable with a non dedicated software. Wether this difference + the external monitor features is worth 2000 to anybody… well that’s another story
Oh…I think that I am at the wrong website. Is this the MACRO Four Thirds blog.
Maybe you could mount. Battery grip on that baby, attach it to a drone and we may actually have something there!
I don’t see the point to buy a 2000$ Shogun, and Panasonic should work on body improvement like samsung did with the Nx1 rather than working on “accessory” stuff.
For Sony A7s it is a must buy, for GH4 users? 99.99% of time you don’t need it unless you are the kind of guy constantly pushing hard in post processing, but then you are doing wrong with your camera, just my 2 cents.
Some things, like extensive manipulation of colors and contrast, can only be achieved in post-processing, so it doesn’t mean that you’re doing something wrong with your camera. It’s the same as with still photography, post-processing isn’t just for correcting bad exposures or white balance, it’s also used to achieve a certain look, certain tones, for retouching etc.
I agree with you, Richard, what I meant is that internal codec of GH4 is already very solid, you won’t break it in post in most situations including achieve a certain look. When you always push hard to the breaking point in post, then it is time to question yourself why you have to do that or perhaps what you really need is a camera that can produce 444 colours?
wouw–waht if this would be the backside of GH-4 and so on?
so all IN the CAMERA for 1400,-
this then in the GH-5????
It would be a 10 bit 4k dream do think this way… the next step please…
maybe Samsung underunns all with extrn 4k recoder unter 799,- then…
HAHAHAHA! Who wants to walk around with that setup? They won’t sell a single one of those!
Hmm, on the video preview picture its written “PANASONIG GH4 COMPARISON”
What’s a Panasonig? Is it a cheap Chinese clone of a Panasonic GH4? Maybe now I can afford a new GH4 camera 😉
I’m really really having trouble seeing the difference. I can see a difference, but I can’t tell which is “better”. Tom Antos did a good quick comparison here http://vimeo.com/116275533 and apart from the first example, I can’t see the extra bit-depth making any worth-while improvement. You can see that the white dog-hair is less overexposed on the Atomos footage at 00:12, but that’s possibly just the grading. I like the large display, that’s kinda handy, but apart form that I see no reason to throw money at this device.
Panasonic should do a firmware update that allows 4K recording at 200mb/sec with S-Log and 4:2:2 10 bit. Then Atomos would struggle to sell to any Gh4 owner as most Gh4 owners would have the missing horsepower needed to shoot top end productions. The Shogun records a far to contrasty video to be usuable when mated to a Gh4. Also the micro HDMI port of the Gh4 is so delicate that you have drop outs when simply touching the cord to the Shogun. If you want to record to the Shogun you really need the Yagh unit. Again some two and a half grand (but coming down in price). Apparently selling poorly, no surprises there. I just hope that Panasonic didn’t hold out the Gh4 reaching it potential by not including 200/10 bit/4;2;2. Only to bring out a GH5 with all the missing goodies that the 4 should have had.
If Panny dosent give us the better bit rate for 4K. Perhaps Nick Driftwood or Vitally may sell us a hack.