Chris and Jordan made that list of the Best and Worst Cameras of 2014. The Panasonic Gh4 was the second best film camera right behind the Sony A7s.
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Really enjoy this show .
a6000 is camera of 2014 surprise me . I did test this cam a few times & the only thing I like is the tracking focusing speed .
While Canon G1x is the worst camera of the year , I totally agree .
I remember Kai also fire up this stupid Canon G1X in his review .
This Canon cam only make sense to Canon fans IMO .
It’s combination of price point and what it delivers. There is a lot to love about a6000… expect available lenses 🙁
Except for the two Zeiss primes, the lens solution for Sony cameras is to adapt manual lenses.
The price range of former NEXes and modern X000 is aimed at people using kit zooms happily and forever.
Personally I am totally agree with a6000 1st place FOR BEING ENTERY LEVEL best choise.
That’s no surprise, since a big percentage of interchangeable lens camera users (DSLR & mirrorless) never buy another lens other than the kit lens that comes with the camera.
Yes , it’s true .
That is a beginner’s way or someone capped by budget .
I reject all kind of kit lenses simply because
” True photographers never shoot with kit lens “.
Probably the best review video I have ever seen. Those guys are really good at what they do.
Sony guys at heart 🙂
Yes they are, but it just needs to be counted in final. Doesn’t change manympoints they make.
Sony just dominating everything. Canon is probably starting to get scared
Canon hasn’t shown any cards yet because there’s been no need (at least that’s what they believe)—they still dominate the market and are heavily intrenched as a system.
Isn’t Sony’s camera division still struggling with their financials?.
They are by far my favorite reviewers.
I hope Olympus watched this video and took note of the convergence that’s taking place in photography. Why just shoot stills when you can deliver stills and motion.
Agreed! Wish Olympus would lift their game when it comes to video.
Would be so simple to at least get the basics right.
Waiting is over. The E-M5 II offer both worlds in one device.
Second best film camera? That’s odd. I could have sworn the GH4 and A7s were both digital.
LOL, nope, I load my GH4 with Ilford all the time 😉
I pry the camera open and soak the sensor in C41 developer.
Zorki 4 and Fed 2, anyone?
Hmmm, yeah, should I buy a Pentax 645z or a Sony A6000? Decisions, decisions…
Interesting how all reviews are subjective. Based on what the boys from Calgary concluded, they gave more weight to ultimate image quality (Sony) as opposed to much lighter body and even lighter lenses as well as number of lenses for the (GH4). If you ABSOLUTELY need to have the ultimate low light image quality then Sony would be the #1 choice for you. But, if you are most interested in more than acceptable image quality (for what most people take pictures of) as well as a very light weight and portable package, the GH4 would top the list at the #1 spot.
Most folks, who start to think about mirrorless cameras, put them all in the same category of being smaller and lighter. That’s not necessarily the case, as in the Sony A7s. Yes, the body is a bit smaller and lighter than lets say most top end Nikon and Canon cameras. But, the lenses are virtually the same, in size and weight, as a similar lens in the Nikon or Canon line. When you decide to give up your big heavy Nikon or Canons, to go smaller and lighter, then replace them with a Sony Full Frame system, you’ve now bought in to something that is a somewhat smaller and lighter, but not by much. All FF cameras need FF lenses to cover the larger sensor. Those larger FF lenses are virtually the same size and weight as your old Nikon or Canons.
When you buy an overall system, you may buy one maybe two bodies, but generally a photographer will add 3 or more lenses. In my case I have almost a dozen lenses for my Lumix GH4. The lenses become the achilles heel of a full frame system. When I was shooting my Full Frame Nikons, I often chose lenses, to take on the shoot, based on the particular subject matter I was planning to capture. For example, I typically never brought my Nikkor 105mm macro for a Kenya shoot since I almost never get out of the vehicle and on to the ground. In general, I would often leave 50% of my lenses behind with the full frame Nikon system. With the GH4 lenses, being less then have the size and weight, I now regularly carry every Lumix and Olympus lens I own. When I see a photo opportunity that may require a macro lens, I have it. That was often not the case when I was shooting Full Frame cameras of the past.
Just something to think about when somebody tells you, from their perspective, one camera is better than another. I love the idea of Sony’s Full Frame sensor quality, but I’m not willing to go back to the monster lenses I used to carry that a Full Frame camera requires. Just one mans thoughts:-)
long story….zzzz
What Ulli, too much info to digest?
too much words yes…sometimes i think, why tell long story while it could be done in more compact shape…i am too lazy to read longg comments anyway
Are “most people” the target audience for the GH4 or A7s?
Probably not Sakaphoto. That would go to the iPhone. For all others things like the GH4, A7s, EM-1 etc. are the cameras the rest of the serious shooters are looking for. Even these folks seldom need the 100,000+ISO capabilities of the full frame sensor the A7s uses.
Yep, there is huge difference can you carry all needed objectives or even all of them with you or do you need a bag. How many cameras you can carry until you need a assistant to hold you extra cameras? (Reason there are those special carrying aids.)
With m4/3 it feels crazy to go just for light sudden walk and take a body with one objective and then couple other objectives with you and get them fit easily in normal pockets without problems.
If someone could manage to make a Small Format camera like Sony did with A7 and then make m4/3 objectives to it…. I could consider tht system. But small body and still huge objectives (those f2.8 or f2.0) and problem is there.
Olympus managed to do OM so awesome small and light with so high quality objectives that it still hits as shock why they didn’t do digital one…. Could have sell even as pure manual system….
We know that Sony E system requires larger lenses than would be necessary because of very short flange distance. What a shame… Maybe Canon will be more wiser when developing its own FF mirrorless system. In the end FF lenses will be always bigger than m4/3 counterparts. Thats why we love our (m4/3) system, right? 🙂
A7S LOL,shit! no internal record & lower color bit and external record prices was more than camera ,who vote A7s that because about sensor size only not appreciation
I’m sure it’s great, if you consider using a cart to hold your recorder for 4K recording portable.
I’m guessing they mean video camera? I don’t see a film slot on either of those cameras…
Ha! I was wondering how long it would take for someone to mention that. Who decided to stick the word film in there? Use video or stills to describe a camera, not film.
For a company that have such a great lenses (I mean the best in the business) it is a real shame that Olympus can not do more with its cameras.
Not impressed with what we know so far about their roadmap either.
Can be a difficult 2015 for the company,
I always have felt after OM-2 that Olympus thrive trough innovations and set par high for the photographers, but they always fall flat in some other way.
Like 4/3 system was great, but no video recording, small OVF in low-end bodies, or focus points limited pretty roughly.
The system size not small enough and light enough.
Then now with m4/3 again little same thing, video gets little weak (frame rates, nothing else) and no extension port support for innovative devices (other than EVF) and then somewhat missing the 1% for really come clear like some oddness in AF-C+Trk system for PDAF!
It is like they do everything great until the final 1% left where they make decision to take a nap and sleeps over the train time.
Example now I like Samsung NX1 for its 15fps AF-C mode. Nothing else doesn’t feel good at all than that.
A perfect change to me about E-M1 would be a 10fps with AF-C, then 25/30/50/60 fps for 1080p as now, 120fps for 720p and 240fps for 480p. And improve AF-C+trk so it doesn’t really have a green track box but more like a A6000 has focus points flashing.
(Oh and strong red/green/yellow peaking like sony).
But those are just required to get the “extra mile” over others.
We can get any camera and get jobs done without looking test charts and if doing just simple shooting here and there then any camera does well.
I love the A7s, I’m even buying one, but I’d consider it a special purpose camera, not an all-around-well-rounded camera given it’s extreme rolling shutter lag, which they didn’t mention at all, limited 8-bit video, and unusually high native ISO when shooting S-LOG.
THey were good and have become so much better with their reviews. Really like me and my friends where I am looking at. Just having fun, being superbly incorrect with their booz on the internet. And even drunk they make more sense than most reviewers (well were they drunk…).
Can agree with about everything they say. I own a couple of m43 cams and no other actually, but can agree the A6000 is their nr1. Unbeatable at the price, yes lenses are too few and far between, but this was about the cam.
Camera is combination of body and the objective. Without objective, it is like you would have a photo paper or film but no camera obscura.
A good camera has variation of objectives that offer wide range of focal lengths. And there ain’t better format than m4/3, even the Small Format doesn’t have same range to offer from wide to narrow angle of degree.
We can’t just say that few objectives offering common angle of views (like between 46° and 12°) is enough to have a good camera. But neither does the widest range make specific camera or format best.
It all depends about need. Example I would give X-T1 to beginner as it really forces them to learn all three factors for correct exposure, but same reason I would give Nikon Df.
But for highly experienced photographer who needs fast adjustments to wide variation of subjects in fast pace without wasting time to settings, checking correct exposure or relaying to any automatic mode, I would give E-M1.
Those two cameras are exactly opposite of each other, other forces to do slow work and learn everything, other release everything in hands of the photographer not holding back. All other cameras comes between those two (Nikon, Canon, Samsung, Sony etc).
X-T1 wins in my opinion as even when given to many professional photographer, they need to learn things they didn’t know, by the hard way.
Well, the GH4 is still the best portable 4K-recording camera body on the market, requiring only the 4K-capable card, and the GH4 and lens.
IF you want best portable 4K camera, then it is blackmagic cameras and they are cheap too for what those offer. GH4 has nothing to say at those.
It is just so amazing how still people like to promote DSLR for videos, 4K as the true/only resolution and DSLR like body for videography.
Fri13, have you ever held a BMPC4K or even a BMCC?
It is a bit of a beast, it is “portable” but nowhere in the same league of portability as a GH4 is!!
It is portable…. Even you said it is.
It is not pocket camera, but it is a portable 4k camera and much better than Panasonic GH4 and for price (feature point in mind) dirty cheap compared to GH4.
Add required external recorder to GH4 and it becomes a monster, GH4 is as well such you can’t handheld it as you need tripod for good stabilization and footage, same as with BMPC4K.
They are actually in same class in weight, size and external tools requirements.
Or should I now say GH4 is just a “portable” as when compared to Sony or Samsung smartphone with 4k recording….? They are smaller, lighter and even easier to use than ANY of those.
I said “portable” in quotes…. so yeah, it is “portable”, but barely. There are many differing varying levels of portable.
Unlike the A7s, the GH4 doesn’t need an external recorder.
The GH4 has stabilised lenses. And you can always use it with a lightweight monopod.
If I wanted to hike up a mountain and take 4K video of the surroundings, I wouldn’t hesitate to bring along a GH4. A BMPC4K however…. that would turn it into a serious endeavour, rather than a casual hike.
Another example you could consider is putting a GH4 and a 14mm pancake lens on a glidecam vs using a BMPC4K! One you could manage to run around with all day on it, on and off, to film a wedding for instance. For the other you’d likely need to be Arnold Schwarzenegger himself!
The GH4 and the BMPC4K occupy two very different niches.
Just about the only similarities they have is that they both do 4K and are both “cheap” (well.. the BMPC4K is still way over double the price of the GH4 however). Everything else about them is very different in terms of what they are!
Who is saying that? I’m not.
4K is a great way to get a better 1080p output, and a hybrid body is a great way to meet a photographer’s changing needs.
hahahahhhahahhahaha
The GH4 is NOT a film camera, it’s a digital camera. Don’t be fooled by the hype. You SUCKERS!!!
Why would ANYONE buy a m43 camera? Tiny sensor fetishists perhaps, but real photographers? Not a chance!
Gnarly Head is the best wine, both white and red. I am so drunk right now! LOL!!!
PanOlympus have chosen the wrong system. If they had chosen to make cameras with Canon EF mount they would have ruled the world of photography! True story!
LOL! As if, making it for EF wouldn’t happen. Dumb idea.
A7S is a hanged product lack 4K and has only 1080p at low 50mbps bitrate
GH4 is the first product consider the price a half A7S (another overpriced hanged sony product)
so i hope i get my 3th. best 4k camera in 2015 for 400$.
if it is a G7 a samsung nx400 a sony-asholexyz what ever
dont care.
all build till now is = NOGO
all coming 2015 in 4k = 400$
THE CUSTOMRES WILL IS THE MANUFACTURES WORK!
IF NOT GO AND DIE!
Play a lot of chess?
Best FILM camera.. hmmm..