Henrys reports that Panasonic will show “a brand new Panasonic 4K product” on a special event in Toronto on September 5th and 6th. Finally we know when we will finally see the new 4K Panasonic GM2 🙂
Thanks Steve for spotting this!
Henrys reports that Panasonic will show “a brand new Panasonic 4K product” on a special event in Toronto on September 5th and 6th. Finally we know when we will finally see the new 4K Panasonic GM2 🙂
Thanks Steve for spotting this!
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Please allow this camera to use IBIS while recording 4k video. I have never fully believed the so-called heat issues as they have always been just rumors and never reliably substantiated. IBIS during video is the holy grail that Olympus has squandered and will be a total game changer for casual enthusiasts. Even to stabilize static shots, IBIS is a world of difference!
Well, it’s not a tale or something, the heat IS an issue, it’s not a rumor, they talked about it in interviews. And don’t the FZ1000 have hybrid OIS/IBIS? Anyway, I’m sure Panasonic is aware of how much people want that 5-axis IBIS working with their video, I hope they manage to make it work in the near future – in the GX8, possibly?
Isnt 5-axis IBIS patented by Olympus?
The basic idea is as old as the gyroscope and the idea was first implemented in cameras by Minolta, back in 2004 (Maxxum / Dynax / α7 Digital 7d and 5d). But several details of the Olympus implementation (esp. the electronics of the sensors, the controllers and the sensor/controller/mechanical coupling) were probably patentable (and patented).
If this does have ibis in video at 4k plus dfd and the e-m1 doesn’t get 4k via firmware I’d actually consider switching back to Panasonic.
Olympus has never really gotten video right so why assume they will lead now?
It would be a nice surprise if they did..ditto Fuji
Couldn’t this “new 4K product from Panasonic” be the LX8 1″ sensor, the 4/3 compact fixed lens camera, OR the GM2?
I was about to ask the same, before the GM2, there are 2 options that are more likely to get the 4K, even more the LX8 – since they already managed to get that working on the FZ1000. The fixed lens 4/3 sensor may get it since with a fized lens it’s easier to work on custom things but if that fized lens is not a zoom, they may put it, but it wouldn’t make so much sense – maybe to allow digital zoom through 4K file to 1080p? Anyway, the LX8 would be my #1 candidate but I don’t discard 4K for all, who knows?
I’m still not convinced that these are 3 separate products but I hope that they are and we see them all.
How has Panasonic handled multiple releases at previous events? Does each camera get announced on a separate day, or do they roll out everything in one big reveal? It seems like there are benefits to each approach.
As these are related product, they should be announced all together. Well, I’m not sure if they will all have 4K but it does seem that these are 3 separeted products but I do wonder if all 3 are going to be announced now. The LX8 is, again, the more likely candidate and possibly the fixed lens, since those are rumors that have been circulating for a couple months but the GM2 is still very fresh, so I don’t know. I was actually expecting something about the GX8 but as there has been no rumor about it so far, I’m not even sure it will be announced this year – or ever, if the confused rumor about a discontinued GX7 and no successor is true.
Do we really think they are going to refresh the GM1 already? Seems a bit early, no?
It feels like a credible rumor to me, but only because it is something that I want. 😉
As much as I’m in awe of the engineering and miniaturization that went into the GM1 and wanted to buy one, after holding it a few times, I really don’t like the controls. And I’ve come to believe that no EVF or tilt is a deal breaker for me. Even my much loved Ricoh GR has lost a lot of its appeal. I’m semi old school: I like a viewfinder, preferably, a great EVF.
It is very soon to replace it, but not too soon to add a second model, the way Sony has all 3 RX100 models still in production at different prices. But I don’t know how it sold. Presumably, each RX100 did well, if buzz is any indicator. I don’t know if the GM1 stayed hot. It doesn’t seem to have been a big hit to me. So I could see the GM2 being either additive or a replacement.
Maybe all three.
Yes please!
Not a fan of videography , so 4K means very less to me .
How much the new GM2 still image better than the current GM1 is what I intend to know .
It looks like Pana is diverting to 4K as it’s cameras selling point .
This is not good for a camera manufacturer , think of removing AA filter , 18 – 20MP increases , Color bits & DR expand & ISO are the right things to work up .
The GM2 won’t increase IQ so much, it’s probably more about the EVF than any other thing. The GM1 already have one of the best sensor for Micro4/3 cameras and they sure won’t put a brand new improved sensor on the GM2 before the flagship cameras. The best they can do is to use the new processor, to increse some other stuff that depends on it, like the DFD or some other new feat. That’s why if the rumor is about it having the EVF, THAT will be the selling point for this new camera, not an improved sensor.
Agreed. Although a GM2 with a 4/3 Fuji-Panasonic organic sensor delivering crazy dynamic range and 36 megapixel resolution wouldn’t suck! 🙂
That would make it the gx8…. at least!
lets hope the develop time would be shorter than from gx1->gx7 🙂
Well, there are rumors about the XPRO2 being announced these days but to only ship next year, which doesn’t totally make sense but what if there will really be a organic sensor in 2015, the XPRO2 should be one of the first to have it, right? So, if it’s announced and it doens’t come with it, I’ll be more skeptical about organic sensor, but the timetable for it was about 2015 – maybe 2016? On the other hand, if it’s announced and it does have it, I would be very exceited for something like that for a Panasonic camera in the future. Could the possibility of an organic sensor explain why the rumor say that the XPRO2 should be announced now to only ship next year? This way the time table would match and Fuji could possibly be doing that for those in the fence to wait for the XPRO2. As much as I like to dream about it, I think this is too optimistic, even more because there has been no rumors about organic sensor confirmation, but that could also be the case of them keeping a better secret, who knows? But I wouldn’t ask for 36MP! LOL.
i don’t remember where i did read it maybe rumors43 here, organic sensor will maybe release on 2016. I got for longtime an GF1, i upgraded to GX7 and i will wait for this sensor.
All i’m trying to say, it’s better to buy lens.
curious question: Are the images taken with the GX7 significantly better looking than the ones you took with the GF1? (not including your talents)
Yes for me, at least partly because I frame better with the EVF than the screen.
Yes. Seems the organic is distant. GX7 is nice, tho! 🙂
Exactly to what I predict too .
New processor instead of new sensor for GM2 .
Let’s wait & see how thing turn out .
Not good for a camera manufacturer? Rather, it’s exactly the opposite. What you meant to say was it’s not good for you. Instead, adding 4k to all of Panasonic’s cameras is the best thing they can do to for new customers interested in photo and video formats. It’s in the company’s best interest to issue that message to the market as Panasonic’s competitive advantage. Adding any further additional upgrades is merely icing on the cake!
I don’t care about videography either; but have you considered the improvements in still photography (incl. burst rate and autofocus speed) thanks to the vastly improved processors, necessary for 4k video capture?
what if…it’s a GoPro / action camera competitor? Isn’t GoPro4 coming out soon?
panasonic already has a 4k “action cam” its not a little cube though
(HX A500)
But it could just be a new 4K Windows 8 tablet, or a new 4k Ultra HD TV
“Brand New” is just “New” with louder voice from the marketing crew
An AF-200 coming out of nowhere would kick all kinds of ass.
I’m thinking TV
Me too
Considering they have a TV in the invite brochure, quite likely. 🙂
I thought of that too. But then, they would probably have the event at some big electronics store, rather than a camera store.
Henry’s is both electronics and cameras
if Oly dont bring new video firmware for all their recent models then panasonic even for rare video usage is way to go … not due to 4k..dont need it at all …. but due to bitrates and fps
“_a_ brand new…”
I expected at least 3-4 new 4K product.
the gm2 will not have 4k you clown…. stop trying to get hits with missinformation!!
4K and IBIS on a GM2 would definitely be a feat. But if it doesn’t have the same bitrate as the GH4, heat dissipation shouldn’t be as much of a problem.
I would be surprised if all Panasonic cameras above P&S don’t have 4K from now on.
I agree… the Panny 4K LSI has now been established and it seems like it’s efficient enough to deliver QHD encoding without generating much heat. I think it’s more likely than not that the GM2 will launch with 4K. If it does I have no doubt it will end up mounted to lots of UAVs.
I will not be particularly impressed if the add 4K to everything. It’s the quality of the codec and compression that will make the difference. For instance if I shoot video with my LX7 it’s not going to look like the video I took with my Gh2, for many reasons, sensor size not withstanding. They will ad 4k to every camera and phone etc…but it doesn’t mean all will be equally as good.
4k to me means I once again the folks making money will be the manufacturers and sellers of gear not the artists using it. In the near future we will have to replace cameras (if you shoot video, most do now), your computer for editing, drives for copious storage and monitors for better resolution. As soon as we do that we’ll see 6 or 8K com in’ round the mountain.
I miss my Nikon F3 and Kodachrome
If it’s Panasonic 4K on a sensor 1″ or larger you can bet it’s going to be good. 4K at 100Mb/sec absolutely destroys 1080P captured at the same bitrate on the GH4. I don’t understand why you think video artists are any less deserving than photo artists with regard to technological advancement. Perhaps you should go back to film while the rest of us move forward.
I don’t think you understood my posting at all. Where did I say anything about “deserving” or bit-rate?
Seems like you are searching for an argument simply to be hostile, have fun with yourself.
8K televisions have already been shown at some trade shows. They are grossly expensive and said to be about 20 years out from the mass market.
Panasonic stated last year that all the cameras from 2014 and on will have 4K.
I can almost guarantee that it won’t be a camera. More likely a 4K Television.
More likely a 4K-compatible memory card.
Click on the link (the one which is marked in red) and read the invitation.
It’s all about 4K cameras and it’s a camera store.
Just imagine a store full of people who follow this invitation and you are the sales person who has to show them a new 4K television.
LOLOLOL…we’ll see….
Is there any new info regarding this?
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/panasonic-is-going-to-announce-the-new-lx1000-soon-and-records-4k-video-too
So, what was it? Now that the date has passed, someone should know what the announcement was about.