Samyang will announce a new Micro Four Thirds lens at Photokina. It will be the 50mm f/1.5 lens. Main characteristic of the lens (like any Samyang lens) will be: low price but still high optical quality. I have no info yet whether tis lens will have autofocus or not (I guess it has not).
eBay links to all different branded Samyang lenses:
[shoplink 20647 ebay]Samyang [/shoplink], [shoplink 20684 ebay]Walimex [/shoplink], [shoplink 20649 ebay]Rokinon [/shoplink], [shoplink 20650 ebay]Opteka [/shoplink], [shoplink 20651 ebay]Falcon [/shoplink], [shoplink 20653 ebay]Vivitar [/shoplink] and [shoplink 20652 ebay]Bower [/shoplink].
Latest announced Samyang MFT lenses on BHphot0:
10mm f/2.8 ED AS NCS CS lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
12mm f/2.0 NCS CS lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
24mm f/1.4 ED AS IF UMC lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
35mm f/1.4 AS UMC lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
—
For sources: Sources can send me anonymous info at 43rumors@gmail.com (create a fake gmail account) or via contact form you see on the right sidebar. Thanks!
For readers: Don’t miss any news. Join our group on facebook and follow our tweets.
Rumors classification explained (FT= FourThirds):
FT1=1-20% chance the rumor is correct
FT2=21-40% chance the rumor is correct
FT3=41-60% chance the rumor is correct
FT4=61-80% chance the rumor is correct
FT5=81-99% chance the rumor is correct
71 Responses
Will see how affordable this will be.
I bet they are going to market it as a cine lens + 90″ it will just be fullframe with an adapter.
50mm 1.5 without AF would be a little boaring. If you can purchase a 45mm 1.8 for about 245,- €, how cheap should a samyang be? 100,- € or less…
100 € sounds great. At that price I will definitely buy one. Focus peeking on GH4 works like a charm so I don’t mind the lack of AF.
MF is tricky with an OVF but with an EVF with magnification and focus peaking it’s very easy to use.
Samyangs are great when it comes to IQ (even the built is quite good) and the prices are fair. If they add AF, the prices will go high and will be in line with Sigma, Tamron, Tokina or other third party manufactures and that will be a nonsense.
http://photobyandrei.wordpress.com/
It is easier with focus peaking, but it sure as heck isn’t as fast as using AF. MF is for Zeiss users wanting to eek out that last drop of IQ, the extremely rare circumstance where AF isn’t working or for pro video.
Nice. Samyang makes some real good lenses. Its good to see them invest in the M43 line. An 100mm 1.5 should be good for some portrets. Lets hope it comes inn at a decent price. Hell i love M43.
Great news. A cheap 100mm 1.5 could be great for portrets. Its good to see a company like Samyang is investing in M43. M43 is booming.
Are you ill today?
Oh, I’m sure he posted something douchey. Admin came along and fixed it.
At least, I’m imagining that’s what happened. That would be hilarious, if Admin just ‘fixed’ the trolls posts.
Auto fix for trolls! Genious!!!!!!
Good one!
LOL 🙂
Don’t you see? Pointless comment as usual. Likely he is being ironic, for fear of being banned or having his comment deleted. This guy has a sad life. All we have to do is ignore him.
He’s not ill. He just had his lobotomy done 😀
Who needs manual 50/1.5 when you can buy an old 50/1.4 and a $5 adapter.
Samyang should start learning about AF.
Maybe this one will be sharper than a lens made for film.
Unless you look for a good one and not some cast-off buried in a thrift store shoebox.
I was just saying because I have read that film lenses did not need to be as sharp as we “need/want” it for our modern digital sensors.
Also, how will you know if a lens from ebay is good or not? Or do you go to certain local sellers who have old lenses?
Surab, I have Minolta MD 50/1.7 bought few years ago for $30 or 40 shipped. Compact, lovely IQ, will last more then camera indeed.
So Samyang is definitely not for me. AF? Well, I’ll consider the lens if equiped with AF…
Of course, but you are in a nice position. 😉 As I said, I was referring to what I have read about the topic. Maybe that was wrong. 😉
If I’m looking for a specific focal length, I’ll google around for reviews and opinions of different lenses. I’ll start with Nikon AI-S, Pentax SMC Takumars, Olympus OM, Voigtländer rangefinder lenses… things like that. I avoid off-brands like Tamron (I had a couple back when I shot film and never liked them), Vivitar, etc..
I buy used lenses from KEH. They have a conservative rating system (their BGN lenses are quite good) and a good return policy. Their prices may be a bit higher, but I prefer that to an eBay crapshoot.
But even among Tamrons and Vivitars (etc) you can find exceptional exceptions, for the price of a canteen lunch.
Okay, I understand. I will remember the shop for later. 😀
Samyang announced before their future lens will have AF builtin. So maybe the 50/1.5 will be one of the first?
So interesting.
Are you sure this will be MFT, or is it another APSC lens with MFT mount?
Or worse .. designed for DSLR.
i’ll be there 😉
Another APS-C lens. Probably, there won’t be electronic lenses coming from any serious 3rd party manufacturers in the coming years. The other mirrorless systems have much larger holes in their lens lineup to fill. The Tamron just came out recently because of its delays.
pass
f/1.5 is an odd number….. rather than the usual f/1.4 or f/1.8
My Voigtländer Nokton 50mm M mount is T1.5. It’s not odd, just its aperture.
That is because it is T/1.5, it probably is a F/1.4
And yes, it can be almost any number whatsoever.
Just it is unusual to have that number as an f-stop.
Maybe that is really it’s T-stop and its f-stop is f/1.4, as after all Samyang does make cine glass too.
The 1932 Carl Zeiss Sonnar and its Soviet copy Юпитер-3 (Jupiter-3) were 50mm f/1.5. So is the current Zeiss C-Sonnar T* ZM.
Fun lens to use, actually.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/samyang-50mm-f1-2-likely-to-come-in-2014/
Looks like it might be this rumoured 50mm f/1.2? Which is of course intended for DSLRs.
So rather than buy a m4/3 I’d rather buy it in a Nikon mount and use it on my RJ Lens Turbo.
Although this then says they’re not going to release it:
http://petapixel.com/2014/02/11/samyang-look-canceled-plans-50mm-f1-2/
Still, might be related to these other rumors somehow.
Right? Since the lens is MF anyways might as well use your speed booster and buy the Nikon version.
Exactly! Buying the Nikon F mount version gives you two lenses in one!
Every time these lenses are announced I get a bit excited then I remember I own the 45mm 1.8 and would never buy this… It’ll be softer and more CA than the 45mm 1.8 I’d bet, it’ll be larger and far heavier, no AF and not that much faster aperture.
Yeah..first of all..it is not a dedicated MFT lens…and no electronic info for focus confirm or anything…with all the incredible, dedicated lenses we have at our disposal…I never got he sam yang thing for MFT…UNLESS MAYBE THE FISHEYE….great bargain.
I am not opposed to MF lenses either…use Zeiss on my FF all the time (I get data and focus confirm tho!)…
After all …it is 2014…and we have great, cheap tech for MFT…why choose the 70’s?? Makes no sense???
This is not what MTF needs. What MTF needs is a nice fast cheap 25mm lens. Like a 25mm f1.8 for $100-200. Then a 14mm or 12mm f2.8 for around the same price. Fast wide to standard primes that don’t cost half a grand or more.
Sigma 30 mm f2.8 EX DN. Sorta fast, sharp optics, roughly normal FOV, and can be had for around $200. I love mine and shoot with it all the time.
Yeah but that still is like a 60mm and only an f2.8. Why can’t we have a nice cheap f1.8 at 25mm. Something equal to a nifty fifty?
We will never have a $100 nice prime. Though I would argue that the nifty fifty for canon (the 1.8) isn’t that great, though it is great for its price.
I fully agree, it’s not a truly adequate replacement for a nifty 50, but I find it works in most cases. At least Tamron has jumped on the MFT bandwagon with that zoom lens. Maybe they’ll pump out some primes too.
Equal to a nifty 50 would be a 25mm F0.9 .You want an equal to a not so nifty 50mm F3.6
Well, you have the olympus 25mm 1.8 and if you buy the international version you can get it for 350.00. I mean, it won’t be long when it can be had all day for under 3 bills like the 45mm. Given the performance, I think that’s fair. 100-200 is dirt cheap territory…although I’ve used a minolta 24mm 2.8 with much success. Colors are fantastic.
So I’m assuming your take on the PannyLeica 42.5mm 1.2 is that it’s a complete rip off? I wonder if it is- it’s tempting.
No, the Noct makes sense as it offers unparalleled IQ. All cameras have those options for lenses that are very expensive but also the best of the best. No problem there, we just don’t have a cheap basic prime, though I agree… once the 25mm 1.8 hits $300 retail, that will help as it is sharper than the $300 Canon 50mm 1.4.
Some mFT users seem struggle with the concept that a lens is only part of the equation .To get the final image we need lens + camera. The Canon 50mm F1.4 will score higher resolution than any mFT lens + camera comparison.
Just to compete with a FF lens on a FF camera a mFT lens must have double the resolving power , and that is based on the cameras having the same MP count which with the 5DMK3, 1DsMK3, D3X ,A850,A900, D600,D610,D800,D800E,D810,A7,A7R all having north of 20mp and up to 36mp is a real problem for those making stupid claims.
Here are the the two best mFT lenses on the sharpest mFT camera compared to the Canon 50mm F1.4 { a 21yr old lens}
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/EF50-mm-f-1.4-USM-on-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-versus-Panasonic-Leica-DG-Nocticron-42-5mm-F12-ASPH-on-Olympus-OM-D-E-M1-versus-Olympus-MZUIKO-DIGITAL-ED-75mm-F18-on-Olympus-OM-D-E-M1___196_795_1297_909_898_909
Now and then I use my pinhole lens and take beautiful pictures with it. Some people forget that these are just tools, and it’s not a race about “who has it bigger”.
Well, I can agree to a point. But, I just sold my A900 a few days ago. Why? Well, aside from the Zeiss rendering in a few lenses I have- I didn’t see the performance as being much better than my EP5. The colors were a bit more natural, but sharpness, bokeh- it’s so freaking close it’s hilarious. That’s before the shorter working distance of the micro four thirds that I find a major advantage for lenses under 50mm. Anyway, I’m now going to upgrade to an A7R for the full frame stuff. IMO- for 95% of photography, olympus has equalled what is out there. All out resolution is just meaningless until you factor in whether you print, viewing distance…yada yada. I tried all of that- didn’t see enough difference to care.
Not true with a camera with the same MP count in terms of pure resolution (IMATEST). Hell, the Canon 50mm 1.4 doesn’t score as high as the Oly 25mm 1.8:
Canon 1.4 on a 18MP FF camera:
http://www.photoreview.com.au/reviews/lenses/full-frame/canon-ef-50mm-f-1.4-usm-lens
Oly 25mm
http://www.photoreview.com.au/reviews/lenses/m4-3/olympus-m.zuiko-digital-25mm-f-1.8
Everyone knows MP matters in terms of pure resolving power, but it is not true when you look at just pure resolution of a lens with the same MP cameras.
The Oly 25mm outresolves the Canon 50mm 1.4 using the FF Canon 1DX body (18MP body). This is the most equal test for the LENS (which is what the conversation was about). The other cameras you listed are over twice the cost of the most expensive MFT camera and have more MP as well. I don’t expect my $20,000 Hyandai to outperform a $40,000 car either.
I tried to post links to the tests previously but for some reason my post didn’t make it. Check the lens reviews from photoreview . au.
Nocticron is a great lens. I had some street-fashion shooting in Venice with a friend, he was using the Fuji counter part on his T1, and while looking at the files he said “this lens has something special in its rendering”.
It’s expensive, for most of us I think, but it’s definetly a lens I have always with me.
Well, that says enough. Guess I’ll have to buy it. Not yet, haven’t even opened the box for the 75mm sitting at home today. But yeah, I guess I’ll get that one. I’m such a sucker for expensive glass.
I would say the two lenses are on paar with IQ, with the Nocticron having the plus of a more usable focal lenght and wider aperture. Still, the 75mm is a must have when shooting in theaters. Enjoy it!
I think a bit the opposite actually. I think what MFT needs is more premium, faster primes. Fuji has some stellar glass, all metal bodied lenses at 1.4-1.2. I mean, there not even that expensive such as the 35mm 1.4. You can have that slighly used for under 5 bills easily. For those looking for the ultimate in cheap end glass there is just to much legacy glass on the market for that. For everything else, Olympus should be innovating.
It’s easy to find cheap, fast 25mm lenses, as long as you don’t require autofocus. I see a multitude on Ebay.
In Holland you pay around 30 € for an OM Zuiko 50 1.8. What should i pay more for a 0.3 difference?
do you really think the difference between two lenses can be simplified to just aperture?
yeez
This one makes no sense to me. I can attach practically any 50mm 1.4 on the cheap with a 20 dollar adaptor and get the same thing.
There’s a chance it will be better than something like a Takumar 50mm 1.4 that costs <$100. But I don't know if there's a big chance. Especially given that an heirloom lens like that will work on any other digital camera you buy in the future…
I just bought the 75mm and it will arrive this weekend. System complete…I now have the 9-18, 25mm 1.8, 45mm 1.8 and 75mm. Now, upgrades are in order sure…the only thing I can think of is a 42.5mm 1.2 LeicaPany- but the price is scarey. I mean, I own Zeiss glass for full frame and never paid that much. I wish Olympus would upgrade the 25mm and 45mm with a metal build and maybe 1.4 instead. I’d pay an extra 200 for that.
I hope we get another 35mm option at photokina, fingers crossed!!!
Been waiting to see a 50mm from Samyang for FF.
Would love to get one if that’s the case. Speed boost option for MFT and hopefully the sharpness I’ve come to expect from them.
First question that comes to mind is if this is a designed-for-MFT lens or another adapted DSLR lens? If it’s the former, and compact, and high quality, and cheap, it might be a worthwhile option. But this is a pretty crowded area, with the Oly 45/1.8, PL 45/2.8, PL 42.5/1.2, Voigt 42.5/.95, and countless adapted 50mm lenses. Odd choice by Samyang.
I wish they would offer a made-for-MFT 10mm which could be much smaller than their current behemoth.
The only thing that would attract me in such a lense is if Samyang offer a cine version. If not, I will stick with my 50mm 1.4 ( btw the only Nikon piece of equipment that I still own from an other life)…
I have the Samyang 12mm and 85mm F2.8 lenses. They are not to big and have decent quality. I think the quality of Samyang will be a good match for M43.
Rats… Really hoping for 100mm macro. MF is fine and f4 is fine…
For users with a very narrow budget this lens may be worth a look. I conjecture this as I own the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye and am quite satisfied with it.
Otoh, a little more money will get you the optically excellent Zuiko 45mm f 1.8, which is just a tiny bit wider and slower than the Samyang, but does feature reasonable AF capabilities,
The benefit for the Samyang/Rokinon/Bower etc. lenses will be the build and smooth focus for video. They’ll release a cine version and it will fill a nice gap in their current lineup. Their lenses are the most popular cine lenses available today. Nothing can touch their price to performance ratio. More than likely this will be a T/1.5 50mm lens (f/1.4). I’m actually hoping it’s covers full frame, as I like being able to use my lenses on various cameras. If you want a small autofocus “m43 lens,” around that FOV, buy the Olympus 45mm or Sigma 60mm. Both are excellent and are super cheap.