The E-M5 price dropped again and you can have it for $619 at Amazon US (Click here) or $648 on [shoplink 47131]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink]. That’s the lowest price I have seen so far. In Europe the camera sells for 567Euro only at [shoplink 47132]eBay UK (Click here)[/shoplink].
All current Olympus deals can be seen on that Amazon page and on that GetOlympus page.
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mk II is coming…
As is winter…
Let me rephrase it – Mk II announcement is coming before winter. 🙂
Can you feel it Mr. Krabs?
My only hope is that I’m excited about the new one so much that I can’t wait to get it. If so, I’ll finally divest myself of my Canon gear, even though it was what got me back into my hobby five years ago.
Something’s in the air… Yeahhh 🙂
This means the E-M5 II is a significant upgrade.
Yep, an upgrade in gadgets on the camera. Image quality is not going to be better. M43 will never produce decent image quality.
Image quality is fine. Equal to my 1Ds MKII. If you’d actually tried one rather than reading stuff from people like yourself, you’d know.
Really? I think the problem lies behind the camera then. i am sorry for your 1Ds – but it’s the usual fib anyway.
Once it drops, it will follow EP3 EP2’s foot steps
If Oly would be so kind as Fuji by simply providing a FW update that provides ISO 100 and timelapse and FP (all software tech I think) that would make this cam a whole lot more interesting. It is now 2 years old with 2 year old software. Not worth it.
Not worth it? Really? Name a better camera than em5 at $620. You wont find any.
GX7 is the same price on fleabay, and I would rather have that.
A sidegrade at best though. Better video on the GX7… better overall shooting experience, weather-sealing, better EVF and class leading IBIS on the EM-5.
Not a sidegrade. Focuspeaking is very nice, especially when you shoot at night and you cannot find a focus. FP is much better. Electronic shutter that does nowear. 1/16000 s shutter and ISO125 make you use fast lenses with shallow depth of field in strong light. Focusses to -4 ev. Much better menu system. Far superior video. Better ergonomics.
Tiltable EVF is nice and has much more dots than Oly’s 1.44 MPIxel. I like the tiltable EVF I have on my EPL5. In a bright sun, I can look down.
Built in flahs which the Oly lacks is nice for bouncing and fill flash.
The only thing that Oly has it the weathersealing and is it.
I thought you would say GX7 (there is nothing else really at this price range) but : GX7’s image stabilization is no match for 5 axis IBIS of EM5, EVF is in an awkward position to the left of the camera and has some optical problems, i dont see how ergonomics are better in GX7, 1/16000 shutter speed ? where did you get that number? I think its 1/8000, elaborate please. Finally, sales of EM5 were huge while GX7 not so good (price started dropping immediately after release) and this must say something for the overall value of the 2 cameras. So GX7 is at least no better than EM5. Having that said , GX7 is a pretty capable camera and a value buy. You see I never said that it is not worth it.
GX7: use OIS lenses. I do. I will not buy nonstabilised lenses. So I can use them on both brands without any worries. I do not need IBIS
EVF is not awkward at all. How is it more awkward than in the middle, smudging your screen with your nose all the time. And if you ar elefteyed, tilt the EVF up. Also the GX7 has far more pixels in the EVF.
1/8000s is for stills, you are correct. But that + ISO 125 is still 2 stops better without overexposing than EM5. Use fast lenses and you’ll notice it.
Video IQ? GX7 kicks EM5 so big it is not even funny. It also beats by far any other Oly cam. Not important?
Sales mus ttell you something. Well: sales are not a spec on the cam. COmpare with a D7000 or D7100 and than it must say that these cams are better and all mirrorless users are just dumb…
If you are into deducing things then the much changed grip on the EM1 must tell you something about how good the grip on EM5 is..
EM5 was a landamrk cam for m43s, no doubt. But in the current mark it is not standing out anymore.
The above shows which cam has the better specs and is more allround (identical stills, much better video on GX7)…
OIS lenses. Yes it is a solution but its not the best solution. You cant use nonstabilised lenses and this is a restriction. Also IOS lenses are more expensive, and usually (not always) heavier and bigger.
If you dont need IBIS and you dont buy non stabilized lenses thats fine, but this doesnt mean that the rest of the world dont need it too. Personal desires and needs is one thing and general conclusions is another. Try to separate them so you can be as objective as possible.
EVF in the middle makes for better central axis orientation and this a well known fact. Tilting the EVF up means that you no longer hold your cam on your face (not smudging the LCD with your nose) but it also means that you cant take it far away fom your eyes (use it as an LCD panel). This ends up holding the camera close to your face but you have to bend your head down in an AWKWARD position (loosing body balance). So use of tilting EVF is pretty limited and i think this the prime reason of poor sales of GX7.
As for ISO, peevee answered you already. Firmware update of EM5 gave 100 ISO to it, so end of story there.
Video is better in GX7 no argument there.
As for sales go, dont go Canon on me now. There is a big difference in marketing and the existing establishment of DSLRs and you well know it. I can compare sales between Pana and Oly, but not Canikon. Not the same thing.
Sure the grip on EM1 is better than EM5 but also from GX7 too, so i cant see your point there.
Sure EM5 shines out no more in the current market but nor GX7 does. Thatswhy we are talking about low prices here (head of the post).
1) OIS lenses. Lenses are forever. Every OIS lens will be stabilsed on any system it is made for. Nonstabilsed lenses won’t. So currently I can use my Panny lenses with any mFT cam I want, I cannot say the same about Oly lenses. So I prefer OIS lenses. But again: GX7 does offer
IBIS, albeit not a good version
The downside of IBIS is that the sensor will get too hot when it is heavily taxed in the case of high IQ video. That is why Oly has lacklustre video (part of the reason) it seems.
2) Obectivity? Your view on the EVF is not objective at all. I use a tiltable EVF and love how I can see through it in very bright sunlight. Looking down at times is better than having the sun shine in your eyes.
3) Centeal axis etc. I look through an EVF and can se e exactly what I see with a centered one. If it is my personal orientation..in the screen you have all the info you need to take a good shot.
4) ISO: I read 125 ISO btw, but that part is setteld. Good by Oly. 1/8000s is not
5) slower flash sync
6) 480.000 pixel display compared to 1.08 million (GX7)…
7) Focus peaking
8) -4 to 18 eV AF that works great is better than 0 eV
9) EVF with 2,7 million dots comapred to 1,4 million…
10) not unimportant: far superior video on the GX7
GX7 has many advantages which are only helpfull if you use them.
1) Agree in all (but OIS still they are more expensive, heavier). And just a reminder we are talking about the 2 cams, not lenses.
2) I am just saying that a man with his head up has better balance than a man with his head bend down. Dont you think that this is true? (btw human head weights around 5kg). True, it helps against direct sunlight though (just wearing a baseball hat would negate this advantage, but ok).
3) Of course you see the exact same thing. But I am talking about the alignment between head, cam and subject. In centered EVF thats a straight line connecting these 3 things while in side EVF that line is not straight as the cam deviates from that line.
5,6,7 and 9)True8) In real conditions there is no real difference. Both cams struggle with AF in low light
10) Already answered that. The importance here of course depends of the use of this feature as you say.
Overall we have 2 very capable cameras with pros and cons and little differences, certainly not to the point to state that one is not worth it and the other does. Nice talk 🙂
I would disagree that the EM5 offers a “better shooting experience” unless you buy the add-on grip that sets you back more than a little bit of money. The only current Oly camera without a ridiculously bad grip out of the box is the EM1.
“Not worth it? Really? Name a better camera than em5 at $620. You wont find any.”
Nikon D5300 for just ONE example. $475 WITH lens. Superior viewing, better battery life, better image quality, faster performance, faster autofocus, better dynamic range, 24MP, plenty of cheap used lenses available, long term vendor support, at least theoretically better in that its manufacturer makes profits selling cameras.
Ok time to wake up now. I dont know where you found that price but adorama and B&H sell it $746 body only. Now lets talk some specifics here. So Nikon 5300:
Is at least 100 g heavier and considerably bigger
Big and heavy lenses
no image stabilization at all
5fps against 9 fps of EM5
minimum shutter speed 30 sec against 60 sec of EM5
1/200 flash sync against 1/250 of EM5
Plastic and No weathersealed
no touch screen
As image quality goes differences are negligible at best.
All in all a more expensive yet worse build quality camera with lower stats.
A big, heavy, plastic brick.
100 g heavier? Are you a cripple? And what about your other numbers? Have you ever taken a photo in your nerdic life?
Equivalent lenses are not larger – I thought we made that clear by now.
But whoever compares a plastic toy such as the OM* to a real camera cannot be taken seriously, and deserves no serious replies 🙂
It quite obvious who takes pictures and whos not. Try carry it all day around and then talk. The weight and size advantage of m4/3 it’s just not debatable anymore, everyone knows it except you. Same goes for the lenses, they are nearly twice bigger and heavier. Oh and last time i checked magnesium alloy is metal, no plastic. Somebody missed his chemistry classes here 🙂
Sony NEX 3, 5 and 6. These cameras outperform every M43 camera in still image quality and Oly also in video quality. And you also have the Fuji XE1. Stop dreaming and get real. Maybe M43 pictures look nice on you’re mobile phone but on a somewhat bigger (computer) screen or an A4 print M43 pictures look horrible. And lets not even talk about control of DOF and lower light………
Stop trolling and get a life. Best advice I can give.
Good answer Teros…..and typically M43 behavior and denial.
Sony NEX are toys for technofreaks. Real shooters buy a cam, idiots buy a sensor. Sony has that so have fun with your sensor.
Wat are you talking about Jorgen? The latest firmware for E-M5 was released less than 6 months ago, and it DOES include ISO100 and small focus points.