An anonymous source shared the following info:
Olympus will launch a Silver E-M1 edition at Photokina. And there will be also a new firmware for the E-M1 that allows you to shoot 4K video (& get a lot of options during shooting videos).
The source is new so take it with a grain of salt. But it would be certainly a huge (and welcome) surprise if current E-M1 owners would get such a firmware update! Sounds almost to good to be true…
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Could be tactic to spread this info, hoping that people will wait for the official announce and not buy the competition.
On the other hand, I can not believe the tech inside would not be ready for 4k…
4k on the e-m1 is simply impossible.
the sensor could not dissipate the heat, the cpu would not be able to process the data, and probably there is even no bandwidth to write the video in the SD.
this really looks like a big lie, more an FT0 I’d say.
An “FT -1” even perhaps?
I don’t believe in 4K for the E-M1 until I see it, either, but how did you gather that knowledge? I.e., how can you be sure that the E-M1 cannot dissipate the heat like the GH4 does, is not able to process the data like the GH4 does, and has less bandwidth for writing the data on SD than the GH4 has? The existence of the GH4 proves that the technology was existent before the E-M1 went to market, and, as we know, the sensor does come from Panasonic. It could, in theory, be that it only was an agreement between Olympus and Panasonic regarding the new sensor making Olympus not offer 4K although it would have been technically possible, with the option to maybe enable it later, and that this “later” has now been negotiated. Not, but I repeat myself, that I’d find this extremely probably myself, either.
lets say I am as sure as I am sure I will not find a winning lottery ticket on the sidewalk today.
Panasonic had to work hard to get a proper dissipation. they did a good work and they are able to squeeze 4k out of the fz1000 while sony can’t do it.
olympus EM-1 cannot even do a fullhd@60Hz how could it be possible to do a 4k?
It’s difficult to transfer the heat out from sensor as th sensor is “floating” to allow the antishake to work. I guess 4K will need hardware modifications.
I would be happy with better fullHD with proper codec and gamma options.
I think this rumor really is “true” rumor, just to make people wait but not purchase gh4.
I would also believe a 4K-Update by firmware is impossible. Of course there is a Panasonic sensor in E-M1 and even processor might be fast enough, because both cameras (E-M1, GH4) have comparable goog AF-performance. But I don’t think layout was made for that much heating. May be 4K with a limit of a few seconds….:-)
From market aspects, Panasonic might like Olympus to promote their 4-K technologie, due to a bigger market for 4K-TV, Recorder, Receiver,…
Me too, I don’t think E-M1 will be capable of 4K unless there is major revision on the thermal design.
I keep hearing this and I am still skeptical that this is the issue. Wouldn’t the heat come mostly from the image processor and not the sensor? Ergo, if heat and IBIS are the issue, couldn’t they just resolve it without removing IBIS? Also… there are 4K phones. I know… the quality isn’t anywhere near a GH4, but then again… the enclosure on a phone is even smaller, and harder to develop cooling strategies for.
Maybe it’s about new OMD announced at Photokina with silver and blacks editions with 4k mode.
E-M5 mkii
now with 4k!
Throw some different video frame rates on that, throw in focus peaking, and I’ll never need another camera.
4K firmware upgrade?? Sounds too good to be true!!! 😮 And with it being a FT2 rumour, it probably is.
Usually 4K doesn’t get included due to hardware restrictions (as 4K is very demanding on it), so I doubt a firmware update will change this. And especially not from Olympus who has so far neglected video features in its cameras. :-/
I think they’re talking about a new OMD.
Good news if Oly are finally offering improved video with their 5 axis stabilisation.
That would be a dream camera to many — figure out how to get the GH4 capabilities in a camera body that supports IBIS in video. May call for a larger heat sink or a more efficient processor, but this is the end game here.
with 4k you can stabilise very well in post-production. you don’t really need IBIS for 4k video in the real world, but it would be nice to have…
I’m just curious: what stabilization software works well in post???
I ask because all the ones I’ve tested don’t work well at all
And all the videos I saw with stabilization in post have huge unatural distortions…
In some specific situations, it could work… but usually it’s not an acceptable solution…
warp stabiliser is not good enough for you?
If you release in fullhd, it should not be a big problem in theory.
but I’m quite sure few would notice it in 4k.
I do not have a 4k camera so I cannot give you my experience on this, but If that is not enought for your target then maybe it is time to invest in a rig
just google for the pro options for software based Stabilisation, there are a few good ones but i forget the names.
But then you some of the 4K resolution, don’t you? If so, it would be better to have an already as good as possible stabilized video and then apply minor post stabilization.
in real world application would you be able to tell the difference between a 2000 lines and 1800 rescaled to 2000 on a 55″ screen?
I barely can tell the difference between fullhd and 4k!
Yes it is of course better to have the whole package, but it really would not drive me to buy on camera vs the other.
Actually given than the 4k videos are recorded on a crop of the full sensor on the GH4 there is in theory space for a very good in camera software stabilisation, no need to move the sensor.
For stills, the 5 axis ibis makes much more sense.
I see. Thank for your reply! For me as a casual photographer and “videographer”, it is just nice to have such a decent stabilization without any further postwork. 😀
Actually, I would love a G7 with GH4 video specs (due to size) and built and a GH4 both with the 5-axis stabilization of Oly. (I kind like the Pana layout and menus more and also like the swivel screens a lot.)
I agree with you. I just started using the EM1 and I miss having the flip out screen from the G6. The Pany menus are so much easier to use, makes the EM1 seem archaic. I’m noticing image quality to be very similar with all m43 cameras. This system will need a new sensor in order to compete with the crop of mirrorless cameras coming out.
Most definitely, at least for demanding photographers. For me the level that m43 or even the latest 1″ sensor have achieved is already very nice. Only for astrophotography I believe that somethig linke the A7s would be quite nice! 😀
Sounds too good to be true? Then it probably isn’t. Couldn’t fathom how Olympus would offer 4K when they can’t even give us framerates other than 30p. How about first giving some 24/25 and 50/60 like everyone else? Maybe spruce up the encoding too with a higher bitrate. Let’s get the house in order before we even mention 4K. Olympus is sitting on a gold mine with their 5-axis IBIS technology. To not offer video up to par with the competition is the biggest waste of resources in the industry.
Hear hear
Firmware is indeed coming. New and interesting features will be introduced. This will be the first time Olympus is doing it for their current flagship.
Yes, I could believe there is new firmware coming, but not this rumour though.
How soon do you say this firmware will come? I’d welcome additional interesting features, but one would be the option to select Contrast Detect for 4/3’s lenses like the 14-54 II lens that works much more reliably on the E-M5 than it does on the E-M1 with hunting all the time in low light & less distinct targets. With clear detail in good light the lens works quickly on the E-M1 & that is why having a choice between CD-AF & PD-AF would be ideal (& much less embarrassing in public with a lens that just hunts & fiddles about while trying to get a shot across the valley at Govetts Leap in the Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia). See here: http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33042&page=3
I think Olympus should start making Jewellery -maybe white gold and cabochon ruby for the shutter button. 4k is the price not video res.
Use your brain Admin. This is not possible via a Firmware update. Likely a new Olympus camera is in the works.
He is using his brain, generating pageviews. It’s working, no? 😉
ha! Yes, that! It is a “smart move” by Admin.
It gets us looking and talking about it! I don’t mind 🙂
4k makes no sense for Olympus, unless it can make a camera with better video hardware first. It will not compete at all with Panasonic or Sony cameras. Let’s see something simple like PAL first.
Or good image quality.
sounds like someone’s wet dream. : )
If they introduce 4K that will Oly-style 4K which is 30p only. Hehe. Seriously, give me 25p to comply with my regional production standarts and deliver me from that 4K nonesense. That’s all I need for video from Oly.
YES, I wish more manufacturers would do world cams!
Besides the 4k stuff…
A silver-black version of the E-M1 would be sexy as hell!
Comparing the silver-black versions of the E-M10 and E-P5 to their black counterparts, the “nostalgic” bicoloured version wins both times!
Could be that bit to upgrade from my E-P5,to be honest 🙂
On one hand, yes, 4K would be nice, even if this is a paid upgrade; On another hand, they haven’t even proved they can do proper 1080P…
This rumour just sounds like wishful thinking to me.
Personally I am not bothered with 4k, will simply be a power drain to me, possibly negating any further upgrades they may come up with which could be more appealing to the still shooter.
When something sounds to good to be true, it always is.
The E-M1 does not have the hardware on board to encode 4K video’s, so this is practically impossible.
It may or may not; it’s a proprietary image processor SoC and to my knowledge there’s been no concerted effort to reverse-engineer it to see what it’s actually capable of. My suspicion is that they pushed it out the door with more capable hardware than the early firmware could support. Don’t underestimate the role of software in getting the most out of the latest image processors.
I don’t expect it will be as good at Panasonic’s offering, but I think it’s reasonable to think that they did have a plan to improve the video offering but prioritized launching the camera. And to be fair, the E-M1’s video is already significantly improved over the E-M5’s.
Don’t agree with you. In camera systems(and all low power chips/processors in mobile devices) you have specifically designed HARDWARE which can do exactly it’s designed for.
So it has specifically designed hardware to create H264 video files in a certain resolution at a certain bitrate, and it has specifically designed hardware to create a JPG from sensor RAW data for example. That hardware can not be used to do something else.
These things are not done by a general purpose CPU like you have in your computer (which, despite having very fast CPU, is probably still unable to encode LIVE 4K video or convert more than 1 RAW file to a JPG per second for example). Of course there also is some kind of general purpose CPU in any digital camera, but it’s relatively slow.
If there is no(EXPENSIVE) specifically designed 4k encoding hardware in the E-M1, encoded 4k video will never be possible. There is a very small chance at RAW video, but that very impractical to say the least.
I’m familiar with hardware design. I have a master’s of computer science specializing embedded systems. I’ve designed a lot of custom digital hardware including SoC’s although my specialty is FPGA CAD tools.
My assertion is that they designed the SoC with 4K in mind *in the first place*. But as with all embedded systems, some things are more efficiently done in hardware and some in software. In fact a lot of the things we do in software would not be feasible in a dedicated piece of hardware. At the very least, the development cost of hard blocks is almost always higher than software, so you want to build hard blocks for only those functions which will be stable over time and then write software to control them. Anything that isn’t processing-intensive is generally done in software, which turns out to be almost everything.
With that in mind, all SoC’s used as image processors do have general purpose processors along with some fixed function blocks for things like codecs which merit custom hardware. You’re absolutely right to contend that these processors are not fast enough to encode H264 video in real time. But I never said they were.
So let me re-iterate:
1) My first assertion was that we don’t know if Olympus designed a forward-looking image processor which could handle high-res video to be later supported by software upgrades or if they designed and built one which simply cannot.
2) I then asserted that it is possible that they released the camera before they had the software for 4k or additional video options written, pushing it to a later update.
If my first assertion is correct, this is a perfectly plausible rumor. But I don’t think you have grounds to claim that it’s impossible since you are not aware of the details of the SoC’s design. We’ll just have to wait and see. Not holding my breath, but it’s not impossible.
Tnx for the comment. We’ll just wait and see.
April 1st mk II??? If not FT0 would be more appropriated…
And by the way, if that was possible to upgrade 1080p to 4k on an em1, then upgrade GX7 also for to get 4k mode 😀
I’m taking this rumor with a ton of salt. Anyway, if oly should have the tech and know-how to implement better video options and 4K, then I’m pretty much bought. An e-m1 with better video specs, 4K and ibis, imagine that!?!
But I guess it’s like some of you say it’s wishful thinkin 🙂
I think its better that Oly tries to get better image quality. M43 i not exactly the best out their. First good image quality on par with APCS and then try to get good video. But i think this will never happen because its small sensor.
I think it is better you actually take some photos & maybe you could show us your good ones, if you’re actually capable!
Hey troll, let me try to make you understand, even if it’s impossible. The so called FF sensor is crop 1x. M43 is crop 2x. And the majority of cameras around the world are crop 5.5x. So if you went to school you can see M43 is more to medium-big side just as Foveon sensors which outperforms all current FF tanks. Organic sensors are coming so your trolling days soon will have an end. Sorry to tell you moron.
Keep on dreaming. I am sorry for you that you need those extreme words.
What do you get out of this? Is your life that sad and lonely?
Seriously boy, don’t you have better things to do than complaining here ? By the time, you should have seen we fanboys will never admit the ‘full frame & aps-c truth”, so leave us alone and go enlighten the world with your wonderful full frame pictures…
If there are any…. hahahahahaha…..
if you really need to troll, at least do it in proper english!
zzzz…
m43’s ls already equivalent to a Nikon D7000 when you actually look at the images at different ISOs side by side (I know… I own both). m43’s is also better at higher ISO than today’s Fuji APS-C sensors because they resolve more detail. No, they aren’t a D800, but really… is it so hard to realize that most people don’t need D800 IQ and would rather have the laundry list of other features that m43’s provides?
Yet another slow day at CanonRumors for you.
With the Fuji XTrans sensor, you can pull detail out of shadows, while trying to do that in any M43 camera is laughable.
With M43, just shoot in the daytime, and you’ll be fine, dim light…. Ha, there’s noise in ISO 200 shots with the E-M1.
When you said M43 is better at high ISO’s over APS-C, I almost spat out my tea, funniest quote of the Week!
Yes, micro 4/3 is as good as all larger formats, maybe better.
Of course, smaller formats, such as Nikon 1″ are not as good as micro 4/3, simply by virtue of being smaller. Physics, you know.
Since all other sensor R&D stands still save micro 4/3, the war is all but over.
Ha Ha
Sorry I meant to add this!
Is it where your mum comes from?
Lol. I love the ol’ mom comeback. Very creative. You sure did get me there. I am deflated.
How about focus peaking during video? Zebras? 24p/60p? Or exposure changes during recording? I’ll take these over 4k.
A upgraded E-M1 or even a E-M5 with 4k capabilities is a possibility, but not in the current model. I don’t think that Olympus can catch up Panasonic on the 4K front, not yet at least.
But if any of this happen obviously it be very welcome.
An updated firmware with more frame rate video options would convince me to buy an em1. Ideally I hope improved video is included in the new omd. A body like the em1 with redesigned grip or detachable grip would be great.
I neither spit nor swallow. I save. I know because I have pictures on full frame.
In your dreams!
Actually I can’t really see the point of people wanting 4k on Olympus bodies… Distinction is clear in µ43 world : Pana for video, Oly for stills. If you intend to do video, there’s Panasonic…
Uhhh…. whaaa? Panny just proved it can do both better than the EM1 with the GH4 so, this distinction isn’t clear at all. I personally like the ergo and IBIS of the EM1 much better, but, in terms of pure performance the GH4 is the better stills AND video camera. Oly has to step it up.
On topic. Really… a firmware release will magically remind the sensor to start 4K recording. This is definitely FT0.
You mean Oly for stills with legacy glass or 43 lenses, Panasonic for stills with m43 glass and for video.
I would rate this at FT0.
a) Olympus doesn’t have a track record in video. b) It has yet to demonstrate in shipping products — from the E1 to the EM1 — an ability to do serious video. Barring something up their sleeves through a secret collaboration with Sony, I sincerely doubt this is more than wishful thinking.
And silver EM1s? Dear Lord I hope not. The EM1 is not the only credibility Olympus has left in the Pro market segment. Trivialising it into a faux Df is not going to win it any favours. Olympus needs to go even more serious with the EM1 Mk. II. Even the lenses don’t look like Pro lenses.
Of course they don’t, pro lenses are white!!!!!
While I also find this unlikely, I wouldn’t be surprised if at the future Oly invests more on video.
I wouldn’t mind trading in one of my two black E-M1s for a silver one. Silver hide scratches better. xD
I see what you are saying about the PRO series lenses. They definetely look a bit more “polished” and “glossy” than 4/3 HG/SHG, Nikon’s “Golden ring” and the Canon L-series lenses. However their feel is much better and they are actually FRESH designs instead of the old ones. Plus tbh the less “pro” a lens look, the better it is for the photographer in urban areas.
And may I take this opportunity to offer my condolences to friends, families and fellow countrymen of those lost in the Malaysia Airlines MH17 incident. Such a tragic loss should make us realise even more the fragility of humanity and the pettiness of bickering about format differences. Celebrate diversity.
Agreed!
And from me too.
You are so mature. Is that because you are diverse?
Definitely FT0… Absolutely no chance for this unless it’s an entirely new model w/serious video architecture help from Panasonic (which would make no sense for Panny).
Maybe it will just be 3840K?
Sounds like bullshit.
Definitely BS. Olympus could just release an E-M1 Mark II with 4K support and make tons of money with it. There is no financial point for Olympus to add 4K support with just a new firmware.
While I would buy an MKII not everyone would. Olympus’ EM1 is threatened by the GH4. It’s lenses along with it. A firmware upgrade would keep it relevant for another year or two while Oly releases the 40-150 and 300 and tele x1.4 and 7-14 2.8
This would not be a charity move by Oly. I would be a very savvy business play.
It doesn’t sound that far-fetched to me. If they want to keep the camera selling well for another year at the same margins, Olympus needs to do something to generate new interest and justify the relatively high price.
My guess is that, if they are able to enable 4k with firmware, it won’t be near as flexible as people would like.
This is FT0. If pany adds IBIS with even 3 axis with 4K, then I’m ok jumping ship from oly to pany.
Without an engineering breakthrough in heat dissipation, you don’t get IBIS and good video. Sorry.
So you say IBIS + video is impossible….
Overheating issues would force the clips to be short, if even possible, due to the low mass sensor optimized to be moved rapidly for still imagery stabilization… Just my opinion based on What Pany said about the design of the GH4
Does your E-M5 or E-M1 overheat now with video shooting? If not, then 4k doesnt bring ANY problems.
Apparently, the Sony A7S gets warm when recording 4K…
Must be a slow rumor day for this to be printed.
If this rumor is true (not super likely it is ft2 after all), I have a feeling it’s in response to the GH4 / A7S. Maybe they saw or predict a huge impact on their EM1 / EM10 sales and since the EM1 is a flagship and unlikely to have an update in awhile. They need to keep EM1 current and perhaps the upcoming em-5 mkii will have 4k and it will render the e-m1 dated if that’s the case. I really do hope it’s true b/c i myself was thinking of jumping to gh4 from my omd and know I will miss my 5-axis stabilization greatly. And if they do 4k hopefully it comes with a proper codec to handle it. I’ll be fine to downscale to 1080 as long as it’s greatly improved to the stock 1080. Additionally would be awesome if good enough to grab stills for pictures and crop and still render 1080p with no loss in res.
Why don’t they just make it possible to shoot 1080p raw instead of 4K. 4K olympus video will sill look like crap with a bad codec…
No way this is going to happen. The E-M1 is pretty old by now… it will probably be replaced before the end of the year.
It’s not even a year old yet.
lol what. The E-M5 is two years old and no replacement yet. Pro level bodies typically see longer life spans as well. I don’t expect an E-M1 Mk2 until late 2015 or 2016.
We don’t need a rumor to know, neverthless if we need or want it, 4K is here to stay 🙂
Rather sooner then later, no “serious” camera can be sold without proper video, and of course 4K. So wake up Oly!
The reason I don’t have OMD already, is exactly the bad video solution and the missing 25p!!!!
But I have sold my Canon gear, I believe in the MFT system with GH4 and Blackmagic Pocket…
I use my camera because I like to take photos. You obviously expect your camera to be a video camera. Each to their own.
Simplistic. Intentionally misses the point. The point . . . . m4/3 is a hybrid format. Most non-knuckleheads expect a modern camera to handle BOTH functions.
Panasonic has proven that it is completely possible and they have proven it with several models. Get used to it.
Hybrid photography is the thing now and in future. You dont use dedicated video camera unless you need to mount it to tripod and keep it rolling for hour or so without interruptions.
Ok FT2?.. well, these are nice things for wishful thinking, still… have to wait and see.
Personally, if true, the E-M1 would look great in Silver as an alternative color option. I think they should since the other OM-D’s have both color options and they look equally nice in both colors.
Yes, let the camera wars commence! I would love for the E-M1 to up their video capabilities and put the competition for best mirrorless even higher. Oly should really exploit and utilize it’s excellent 5-axi IBIS for better video capabilities. It’s ashamed they decided to neglect that aspect of the camera in their wonderful OM-D line. Hopefully, if possible, a significant upgrade in firmware for some added video capabilities is in the near future.
4K, displaying that in itself isn’t much use for most people these days, it’s the down converting which will really help 1080 video and the cropping and stabilization (if the 5-axis IBIS in the OM-D isn’t great already).. future proofing for when 4k is the standard is nice thing to do. I hope in addition they can add more frame options like 24 & 60.. then the E-M1 & Oly will be in a better position to put a good place in line with the competition which an even more well-rounded MFT camera.
Hopefully, all this will be known (or disproved) in couple months at Photokina. There was an earlier rumor of a new OM-D camera to be announced soon in another posting, I believe.. this could be tied to that rumor.. hopefully. The E-M1 is more than capable of sustaining it’s position as one of the best mirrorless cameras on the market for a while longer.
As a hobbyist electronics/DSP guy, writing in 4k support as firmware sounds about as likely as adding more computer RAM through a download.
So yeah….. no. Unless the E-M1 was already built with 4k in mind, and just had it disabled or unfinished.
I wondered about this.
What a tease. That’s just cruel. These rumors are getting absurd lately. Aside from the fact that adding 4K is almost cmertainly NOT possible to add with a firmware update, If the EM1 video is crappy and falls apart already, how do you think it will look after the magic 4K firmware update and the increase heat generated by shooting 4K.
You seem never have kept camera On longer than 5 seconds i see…
You can add 4k via firmeare if CPU can encode the video feed and there is no technical bandwidth limits for cache flushing to SDcard.
And the E-M1 video is not crappy otherwise than limited to 30fps instead offering 25fps to countries using 50Hz electricity phase. Otherwise coded does very well for enthusiastic needs and semi-professional use.
The heat iant problem. Otherwise we couldnt even use our cameras at all.
GX7 discontinued, Olympus to introduce 4K video via firmware…. Now we get trolled at the top of the page as well as the bottom!
well said…
Yes, 4K is the new craze.
Yes, 4K will be state of the art at some point in the future.
Yes, (nearly) all manufacturers will (have to) jump on the 4K bandwagon.
Yes, 4K-capable equipment will be in more demand than 1080p/FullHD at some point in time.
After recognizing all that, this is what Olympus will do about it in the near future:
nothing.
I shoot no video at all and have no idea what 4K is about. Would it be like going from regular TV to HD…better pic and sound quality???
Yes it is amazing to look at.
Whether it’s true or not, I hope Olympus are reading this thread. I would absolutely buy a 4k E-M1 with a 24fps option, silver or not. If they’re looking for sales, people will buy.
I guess that means that there is no forthcoming E-M2. I know Olympus isn’t about video, but just bumping up the bitrate would be fantastic.
4K would be the best thing to happen to photographers. Imaging doubling or tripling the sales volume of your beloved camera, more profit to the manufacturer = more firmware support, more accessories, longer life-span of the system, more 3rd party accessories, in other words a more vibrant system all around, even if you never once touch the video button. Watch Fuji die a slow death as other mirrorless cameras approach the Fuji stills quality, and eventually overtake them, if they refuse to embrace the needs of videographers.
Watch Fuji die a slow death? HAHA! -Don’t you mean Olympus? Fuji is gaining market share while M43 is losing it.
And trust me, M43 will never beat Fuji stills quality. You’re bugging.
Drugs are Bad.
Again, statements with no base probably again made under the influence of your usual drugs.
There is no indication for what you claim or can you quote some serious sources?
http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/olympus-results.html
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/01/olympus-disappearing.html
http://www.43rumors.com/olympus-financial-report-company-doing-well-but-camera-business-in-loss/
Last year, Olympus had a 7% market share and I’m sure it’s less than that at this point right now.
I can see Olympus selling off the imaging division to someone, with an agreement to use the Imaging Division tech for medical use only.
Read it and weep.
And consider yourself banned from me replying to any of your comments.
Good day.
You quote the already well known sources (which I read when they were published, not necessary to quote this stuff again), which indicate not what you say. It indicates that the camera sales did not meet their own expectations, but it does not say that Olympus has lost relative to the competition. Digital camera market is shrinking as a whole and therefore it is tough for any vendor. However, I see no indicator that it is tougher for Olympus in particular and for the OM-D line especially. Also, please give the quote that Olympus has lost significant market share against Fuji (and I don’t talk about small margins of 1 percent point).
The OM-Ds are popular and a convincing product line.
It is your decision not to reply to my answers. I am fine with that. But you’ll get from me, what your biased and I’ll founded comments here deserve. One day it could be simple ignorance as well.
With every single post here, your reputation shrinks. Don’t you realize that?
Fuji still has a long way to go. Although, there lenses are beginning to look attractive to me. I would love to try put there products but no one carries them.
M43 never, never gonna get close to APSC quality. It just is not possible with that tiny sensor. Get real and stop dreaming.
Yes, of course, this is what GH4 is better than any Canon, Nikon, Sony and Pentax APSC’s LOL. Get a life troll!
Already has better quality than best APS-C DSLR cameras. E-M1 is in Nikon D800e level in quality when doing large prints (40×30) and comparing side by side.
So stop dreaming that APS-C or 35mm are only choises for hiqh quality.
Look at the no. of comments, admin’s trick worked lol…..anyways this should have been FT0
FT2 means likely bogus,and in any case I’m hoping this isn’t what Olympus is planning to introduce at Photokina as a “new OMD” per Admin’s earlier FT5 rumor. Admin, can you shed some light on this?
Besides, everything will likely have 4K within a year now that even Panny’s FZ1000 superzoom has it. Please let the “new OMD” be an E-M5 II with E-M1 on-sensor PDAF, 1/8000 shutter, larger EVF and WiFi along with the E-M10’s built-in flash and a new 20-24MP sensor (yes, now I’m dreaming!).
yeah that would be nice in an interview with toshi terada (olympus engineer/manager of omd line) on an olympus event (olympus roadshow europe) he said that he thinks 20 mpx is the absolutely limit in the future for a long time due to the smaller sensor and how much a faster processor and gained improvements in technical developments of hard and software could compensate the lack of “physical” sensor size….
i would love to get 14 bit raw option, no shutter shock problems not just in single shoit mode, live composite mode of the em10 and panorama modes, gps as well as a fully articlulated screen like gh 4 too….and maybe pdaf also when native m43 lens are attached better tracking, video peeking etc. and a real base/native iso 100 not base 200 like all omds still have…
4k is not a must juts better video implementation and more bit rate options are sufficient imo….
That should be E-M2 then. Not Mk II.
And that would be much better than E-M1 what is the Pro line while E-M5 is the enthusiastic line.
E-M5 is over 2 years old, E-M1 just about 9 months. Killing E-M1 would be direct impact to sales and current users.
IBIS necessarily means “only thin mechanical contact between the sensor and the case” which could conduct heat away from the sensor. Add long-term 4k recording to this, and you’ll likely get an overheating issue.
Wouldn’t most of the heat be created by the DSP and not the sensor itself? I mean, I’m not an engineer or anything, but would have thought as long as you have live view, the sensor is working just the same as it would be if your recording.
We have a winner. Why people have never understood this is beyond me. That image sensor is constantly giving the same output all the time–irelevant to what the “Camera” does with it. Seriously.
I’ve always thought this too, but assumed I was missing something since that seems like… Common sense, yet no one mentions it.
I don’t have an EM1, but this review for video quality is promising. Seems like frame rates is the biggest limitation. Otherwise crop mode, ibis, mic input all looking like olympus does care about improving video.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/12010/olympus-om-d-e-m1-review
A polished metal version may also be tempting.
So we are saying what, yet another new annual Olympus flagship model?
Tack another $200 on the price.
Micro 4/3 needs to take a breather. Consumers can’t absorb sub-12 month top end product cycles, especially since the mere announcement cuts the residual value of the top end model they bought six months ago in half.
Especially since the E-M2 will yield photographs with no real life distinguishable quality difference from their top-end product of 2 or 3 generations prior.
To be fair, since it is a brand new product and since blogs and magazines are in business to sell, and click-throughs mean revenue, it will win all the awards as the bestest camera ever.
From my photojournalism point of view, the only real cons of the EM-1 is the shot battery life and the video mode. I don’t ask for 4k, but 24p and 60p would be very nice along with about 50 mb/s bit rate. Well, I am kind of describing the GH3 video mode…
I really like my EM-1. Before, I was shooting with a combination of D7000 and D700. I must admit that I miss the Full Frame depth of field, but nothing else. The sensibility is really good and with faster lens (I own the 25mm 0,95 from Voigtlander) I can shoot anything without problem.
There is no difference in 24Mbits and 50Mbits what would give benefits visually or for editing. Just compare h.264, h.265 and WMV9 and VP9 codecs. The benefits are between 2-4Mbits and after that it is so small that you need to pixel peep statics.
24FPS is bad. We need 25 to actually get benefits. For bonus give us 60fps or even 90-120fps in 720p for lomo videos and it would be awesome. The 24fps is mostly only dream for film rate but nothing else compared to 25.
Is it possible to do this with just a firmware update?
Why not? Firmware is the controller. If CPU manages processing speeds it is.
Camera’s don’t use CPU’s to encode video or to create for example JPG’s. That would be way to slow and cost way to much power(not to mention the resulting heat). For sure, the CPU can help with some post processing things but the actual encoding happens on specific hardware.
So unless it has specific 4k hardware already on board(unlikely, because things like 4k encoding are expensive to make), it will never have 4k video.
Olympus have no track record at all for adding new features through firmware updates. I doubt this will happen.
Apart from an electronic first curtain.
But they need to start doing so…. Electronic first curtain was good start but if they sant people to buy their cameras, they need to update old ones instead force to buy a latest. Give a camera 5-7 year lifetime and you have old customers in 5-7 years at last but probably even 2-3 years after new camera buying from you.
I believe it is 25fps but not 4k. That doesnt make so much sense as we would need 40Mbits bitrate at least but camera can handle 80mbits or even 100mbits if card can.
The so is important is Silver vertion