The GM1 with kit lens sells now for $681 via Amazon itself (Click here) and for $659 via Cameta at Amazon (Click here). By the way, also the newer Orange GM1 is in Stock (Click here). I own the camera for two months now and I am very happy with it. Having a little kid and travelling a lot I end up shooting a lot with it!
And there is a Gold Box deal on the Olympus E-P1 at Amazon US (Click here). You get camera with kit lens for $329. But this one is still much better: Olympus E-Pm2 with two lenses for $349 only at [shoplink 45030 ebay]eBay US (Click here)[/shoplink].
Other US deals reminder:
GX7 body for $749 only at Amazon US (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here). And Adorama and BHphoto will give you a 4% reward too!
GX7 kit version sells for $939 again at Amazon US (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here). And again there is a 4% reward at Adorama and BHphoto.
All current Olympus deals can be seen on that GetOlympus page.
Over 50% Off Lexar Professional 400x Class 10 Flash Memory at Amazon US (Click here).
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Still no m43rd with fast fixed zoom against Canon g1x ii.
no everyone need interchangeble lense and most entry level consumers bay it and mostly never change the lense, sometimes they just wany better IQ in smaller form.
Exactly: whoever needs interchangeable lens with all those compromises? Not many. Make it a good fix zoom, which is cheaper and better *by construction*.
Gm1 is truly a fantastic take it anywhere 2nd camera. If you want to be discrete or want something pocketable there is nothing better. I am surprised more people aren’t interested.
Where is the viewfinder? Where are the manual controls? Where are proper menus? You can buy 2 entry-level DSLRs for the same money, and they have those features, they are not a lot bigger and they take better pics. These are basic reasons why this GM1 is not popular.
The same applies to most cheap M43 cameras, which only get out of the stores once discounted to fire sale prices.
The better M43 cams (those with a viewfinder and manual controls) tend to be too pricey: then you get 3 to 5 DSLRs for the money, and they still take better pics etc.
I don’t think so many people are in a huge pinch for size, and those will never buy the larger M43 zooms. So there you have another product segment that makes no sense.
Take all the good stuff from the OM-Ds, remove some useless junk (like the menus or the special shooting modes), attach a fixed zoom and price it below 800: there is a recipe for success, or at least survival. It must be a good RAW machine, no crappy lenses with loads of software correction.
I have been looking for small high quality cams ever since, I am still far from happy with the market in general and M43 in particular, because they are supposed to be the specialists and they just suck like everyone else instead.
Seems that cameras in general are moving more in the direction of the GM1 and away from the heavy, bulky, over-priced, FF units which are basically stagnant in development.
For 1/10 the price of a D4s body alone, which shoots a small MegaPixel file, ( yes, smaller than m4/3 ), the GM1 can fit in a jacket pocket or a woman’s purse.
I think we will see MANY copy-cats of the GM1 and NOT many me-too Nikon D4s.
Uhm… No. You have it the other way around. First read, then understand, then comment.
No you get the other way around. Certainly price in m43 at the moment is a little bit higher than it should be, but the trend is clear. Maybe the GM1 is not everyone’s cup of tea, but mirrorless will probably be (unless all of Samsung, Sony, Fuji, Olympus and Panasonic screw it up, which is unlikely). That’s not me saying it but more experienced photographer and anlysist: http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/more-on-legacy.html
Great article, Thanks for the link. I believe Canikon and their fan-boys know this and it partially explains their rabid behavior.
The article says that Oly has a problem, and I agree :):):) This is fun.
Looks like you missed a few items from the article posted by Dav,
“Canon and Nikon will have to respond with crop sensor lenses
Canon and Nikon will have to respond with smaller, lighter bodies
Used Canon and Nikon gear will go down in price due to additional products flooding the market as the leaking continues”
Yes it is fun. LOL!!!
Oh well, it is just some guy on the net, it’s not the Bible; and the winner of this hypothetical race is not going to be m43, for sure. M43 has priced and hyped itself out. It’s sad to watch this format head for doom, when it could be way better with a bit extra thinking.
I agree about the large micro four thirds zooms. They take away the size advantage of micro four thirds. But take an EM5 for example which goes for 720 street and a few small primes like the pana 14mm and the oly 45mm, or the oly 25mm. It makes perfect sense since this combo produces the equivalent to DSLR performance in a much smaller package. When you consider the combo of GM1 with 14mm prime its really small. Sometimes the best camera is the one we have with us and with mico four thirds its possible to always have one.
If you think a m4/3 zoom is large…. just look at the FF ones!! Monsters.
Equivalent zooms are more or less the same size.
Agree – but they must bring down that price. I am not paying that premium over a DSLR to have a little less bulk.
Not answering “DonTom” because he does not follow the process: read, understand, ask questions, maybe post a comment. You will stay ignorant Don!
“they just suck like everyone else instead.” If you can’t take decent images with a modern camera of any ilk, it’s via your failings, not the cameras. ANY of the modern system cameras (and many compacts) are good enough for most situations.
And this from you: “…entry-level DSLRs… are not a lot bigger and they take better pics.” Seriously, WTF? The GM1 and kit lens weighs less than the average entry level kit zoom alone!
Keep looking for your dream camera, because it doesn’t exist. In the meantime, I guess you’re happy with the IQ from your iPhone?
He’ not looking for a camera. He is looking for an argument. There are plenty of cameras available for anyone interested.
Well that wouldn’t be m43 would it? m43 is a lens mount/sensor size/flange focal length specification.
Good News: Great deals.
Bad News: Depreciation value reflects mirrorless’ lukewarm demand…
I was seriously considering the GM1 vs used EM5. This is the perfect micro four thirds camera especially with this kit lens because its truly pocket-able. The lens also starts at 12mm which is unusual. My worry was that it has no stabilization, and no EVF, and no hotshoe. However the low light combo of panasonic 25mm and EM5 5 axis ultimately won. I think that micro four thirds should move in that direction vs the size of the EM1. If they would be able to make a tiny body without any sacrifices, I would definitely be interested.
if you like truly pocket-able, why not omd10 with Oly 14-42 PZ?
But you don’t really need ibis with 25mm. GM1 with Oly 25/1.8 is really good.
The em10 and em5 are almost identical in terms of size. Gm1 is absolutely tiny. Stabilization get 3-4 stops on the em5. Its a game changer for home video.
I have both. I already had the EM5 and I love the camera but wanted something smaller and more pocketable for “social” shooting. I was attracted to the tiny size of the camera and kit zoom, even though I was concerned about having to get used to shooting without IBIS when I couldn’t use the kit lens. It hasn’t really been a problem, but there are compromises to deal with. I recently shot the GM1 during a very rainy four-day trip to San Francisco, CA. Between dim indoor locations and gray and rainy outdoor locations, I never even mounted the kit lens and shoot the whole time with only the 17mm f1.8 Oly prime. I had to let the ISO float up to 3200 to be sure of getting a fast enough shutter, but I would probably have done that with the EM5 anyway since social shots are rarely static. They are both great cameras, but as you would imagine, the shooting experience is very different. I will be taking the GM1 on a Caribbean cruise in a couple of weeks to give it a good workout in more varied conditions, leaving the EM5 at home to assure that I focus on learning the new camera better.
I am not excited. X-Sync. at only 1 / 50s?? Get a real camera. Get the very impressive GX7.
I have both the GX7 and the GM1 – both incredible cameras in their own right. Both use the same sensor and are fun to use. While no camera is perfect for everyone, and I will admit I wish these cameras had IBIS during video recording, the X-sync issue doesn’t confront me because I don’t take many flash pictures and strobe flash has a duration of les than 1/1000th sec. it usually freezes enough of the motion except in severe conditions.
I REALLY enjoy the “silent mode” on the GM1 and use it all the time. The GX7 IS is very impressive!
http://content.screencast.com/users/dolbydunn/folders/GM1/media/e0c2e35e-96af-4b8e-9c3d-a72163f45a63/Lumix%20GX7%20and%20GM1.jpg
“the X-sync issue doesn’t confront me because I don’t take many flash
pictures”
OK
“and strobe flash has a duration of les than 1/1000th sec. it
usually freezes enough of the motion except in severe conditions.”
nonsense. You are a non-flash photographer, and yet you say you own multiple cameras?
Typical, but it’s never too late: toss them (they are M43, so they are junk anyway), buy yourself a proper camera (Canon or Nikon) and some strobist book, like “light: science and magic”. You’ll be surprised how much you can do with some lights. If you go manual, it’s really cheap too.
You buy whatever you want. I don’t want to carry the massive, clunky cameras that you are trying to shove down everyone’s throat.
YOU should learn to take pictures or do something artistic, rather than behave like an incorrigible snot.
BTW, I live in America where we still have the freedom to spend our money as we see fit. Perhaps you live in a dictatorship where tiny little pin-head bureaucrats dictate every personal decision for the masses.
If so, KEEP it there. If you are an “American”, shame on you, learn to embrace the FREEDOM and be willing to extend it to others. EMBRACE the DIVERSITY.
WE WILL NOT BUY MONSTROUS DSLR CAMERAS EVEN IF YOU POST 1000 TRASH-TALK diatribes/day.
You could learn so much, and yet you are such a troglodyte. I feel sorry for you. It’s consumers like you who allow smart corporations to flood our market with junk. Whoops sorry, that’s “freedom” and “diversity”. Tell me, are you so free and diverse that you believe in the 9/11 scam?
Would YOU like to give a pscho-punk’s version of the “9/11 scam” – you brought up. I think that would probably be your most significant post yet!
You refer to 9/11 as a scam. In other words if you can’t prevail with your grade-school efforts to cram a boat-anchor camera down other people’s throats, then you have an excuse to launch into a slander against the U.S. Government for the conducting a “scam on 9/11”.
How important is your FF camera to you anyway?
LOL “launch into a slander”. This is way funnier than the flash sync nonsense. How is the old scrubber?
Buy whatever you want, nobody is stopping you from throwing your money away. But I will set your lies straight, like this one with the flash sync speed. It’s a basic human right, isn’t it?
I already have a GX7, but I still want a GM1 and that amazing little 12-32mm zoom.
The flash speed is a non-issue for me, since I rarely use flash. I’ll stick with fast lenses.
You’re right! GM1 is a cool camera, the shape of things to come.
topelecronics deal for E-PM2 and two lenses seem fishy. Vendor have received most feedback for last year during past few days. All feedback seem written same style. No trust that vendor!
GX7 Body sells for 693 Australian dollars at http://www.camerasky.com.au/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gx7-body-silver-digital-camera.html . That’s even cheaper.
I got a Nine pound camera
Plus 40 pounds of gear now
it’s just a breaking’ my back, Oh it’s breaking my back.
I never took a picture, I’d rather shoot spit-wads
at all my elders, who KNOW I don’t know jack.
Oh I’ve got a camer – bigger than a sledge hammer
and I tend to yammer, Mine is bigger “then yer’s”
Gonna fight the world now, but I’ve gotta prove somehow,
I can make you buy Full Frame . . . You’d better buy Full Frame!!!!!
I’ve got a “proper” camer – I mostly use it as a hammer
and now I’m gonna ram her, right down your micro-sensor throat.
I’ll praise my no-name camer, and hide behind my bad manners,
but I’ll never stop the slander, No I never will stop that.
A poem (think of Merle Travis’ tune “Nine Pound Hammer”), for our flaming FF TROLL
A black GM1 goes for $755! Guess I’ll have to buy from Canada again!
LearnTheBasicsFirst. . . “I feel sorry for you. It’s consumers like you who allow smart corporations to flood our market with junk. Whoops sorry, that’s “freedom” and “diversity”. Tell me, are you so free and diverse that you believe in the 9/11 scam?” . . .
A quote from our resident FF TROLL who posts under an army of aliases/day.
Hey TROLL, continue your “9/11 scam” posts right here where people can see them . . . why hide it down in the basement of this thread?
Apparently, what you are saying is; “9/11 is a scam” and if we believe otherwise then we are gullible.
Why don’t you continue with that thread and see how many you can persuade? You haven’t won over any converts for your 9 pound camera – maybe you’ll have better success convincing U.S. we are all gullible for believing the official U.S. Govt. version of the 9/11 attacks.
Balls. Must. Drop. Then you talk kid.
Watch out, you can be arrested for not believing the official version. It is the land of free you know.
Whoever believes the 9/11 scam can also believe the M43 scam, so what, our job is to exploit suckers, not convert them.
Continue with your accusations against the U.S. Government, I’m finally interested in hearing your “Proof” that “911 was a scam”.
Yes, you grow a set and continue on with your rant. Your camera size will NOT prevent the Government from watching, and tracking your posts and movements for signs of “terrorism”.