I got this from one source and one website (Omuser). This week Olympus will release a new firmware update for the Olympus E-P5. It will add:
– Anti Shock feature just like it had been added on the E-m1 recently.
– improved focus peaking.
P.S.: A while ago I told you how major retailers have been told the E-P5 is now our of production. I haven’t received any reliable rumor yet but there is a fair chance the E-P6 will come in June.
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So, any another news about M5/PL5/PM2/PL6? Same TruePic VI, Same CMOS from sony, and M5 is still in production – Oly should enable electronic first curtain at least for M5.
Imo E-M5 doesn’t need it. I have both E-P5 and E-M5 and there is no shutter shock issue with the latter imo.
Do you have shutter shock with your E-P5?
Yes i have. It’s so bad, i considered selling the camera. Hopefully the fix really improves things and i don’t have to sell it.
maybe you’ll be able to sell it at a better price after the update 😉
i’m really looking forward to this update. it will make a good camera with some quirks a really good camera with a few less quirks.
yes I do. sent it in for repair but they didn’t fix it – so I fell out of love with this otherwise almost perfect cam.
Keeping my fingers crossed that this fixes the shutter shock…
It seems like the issue is much worse with the 1/8000s capable shutter of E-M1 and E-P5, than with the shutter in E-M5 and E-M10. Some have reported shutter shock in E-PL5 and E-PM2, but those are lighter cameras, possibly affected even by a less powerful shutter.
What about the E-M5!? where is the reported new firmware with focus peaking???
It has been announced in Jan this year …… and i have been asking about it on this forum a lot of times ..but everyone seems to have changed to the E-M1 and than to the GH4 …. it is like this is a site for influencing people to buy buy ..but not maintain or update . !
So once again the EM5 gets no lovin.
Didn’t Olympus release low ISO update recently.
Ah yes your right but I think they announced low ISO and focus peaking at the same time and yet only released low ISO.
They did not officialy announce anything. They released spot focusing and low ISO settings which are both new features not available before.
Of course it can be better but EM-5 still gets some loving…
Well it was announced over here .
http://www.43rumors.com/peaking-mode-coming-soon-on-the-e-m5/
It doesn’t seem so:
“Just to be clear, we were told this specifically during our briefing at CES on the E-M10. We asked them twice and they confirmed that it was coming. In the normal reporting process we go through while reviewing the E-M10 we reached out to Olympus reps to double-check this fact and were told that it will not be in the next update, but that it could still be included in future updates”
Sounds like they haven’t announced that it will be actually released.
http://www.43rumors.com/peaking-mode-coming-soon-on-the-e-m5/
Yes, yes, yes! I’m so glad.
Nice to hear that there will be a new E-P6!! Replace the flash with an EVF and keep all the other things the same. Would be my perfect camera and a great upgrade from my E-P3.
the problem is that if they would do that, people will complain about a missing flash.
I definitely would prefer the evf built in and the flash on the hotshoe.
GX7 is the same size, has (bigger,older) IBIS, flash AND evf, I don’t see why Olympus couldn’t do the same, and even if they don’t, I don’t see many people complaining about the EM5 or EM1 (or PM2 and PL5). Olympus already has a good wireless TTL flash system as well so a small pitiful built in flash doesn’t add much to the camera. If you they want to retain flash control they could either pack the add on flash from the OMDs or put a small front plate flash (it even adds even more to the retro look).
my reply was about, take away the flash and put evf in. Ofcourse Olympus can do the things you said, more then Panasonic, they have the ability to reduce size of internal mechanical structures. But other reasons play too in their decisions . be it logical or not.
I am skeptical about new E-P model. What would it offer over the current one? Only built in EVF would make sense to introduce new version, yeah.
There is absolutely no need to bring out E-P6 this year or before the next gen sensor comes out. Not before E-M1 upgrade model.
If I could choose from different colors while focus peaking, I would use it. Too often black or white borders are difficult to see. And on Em1 the viewfinder is good enough to just magnify the screen. I’d like to have it on Em5 though.
Agree, I would like stronger intensity and other colours, too
Yep.Yellow and red show up really well on the Sony implementation.
I’m curious to what “improved focus peaking” mean. Will they take care of the EVF lag with peaking on? That would be really good news for me.
I have an E-P5 and have not experienced the shutter shock phenomenon (even after extensive testing with a variety of lenses). It’s interesting that the camera body is rarely on sale and is currently listed on the B&H website for $999, even after the bad shutter shock press from websites like DPReview.
Olympus never publicly addressed the issue (to my knowledge ), but now issues a software fix for something they never acknowledged?
So here is the question…moving down the road…does Olympus include more shutter shock options in the camera menu or do they resolve the problem (?) mechanically. Also…do the ever discuss the issue (or have they?).
Admin, any news about the viewfinder options improvement by firmware?
This seems really to be a F5. I got just a few minutes ago a mail from the Olympus support about another topic and they mentioned that there is a new E-P5 firmware update really soon.
I salute the Olympus decision to offer anti-shock fix in their models. They have the best stabilization on the market and that shutter shock was a big issue imo.
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Probably just wishful thinking but I think Olympus is gonna finally start offering decent video on future cams.
I think they’ll have to!
Nope.
Olympus has said more than once that the focus is on photography. If you want better video, buy another brand.
I am happy if Olympus continues to concentrate on making better tools for photography. For the rare occasions I use video, the OM-Ds do all I need.
Aye, but the definition of “basic video functionality” is changing, and while I would not expect a full array of professional video features, I would expect them to service some of the more basic requests from their users regarding video functionality. I fully expect to see a broader selection of available frame rates, for example and somewhat higher bitrates.
Hear Hear !
does E-M10 have the anti-shock already implemented ?
have e-m10 on buylist as soon I get a tax return from previous year
Not sure it needs it. It doesn’t have the 1/8000s capable shutter that E-M1 and E-P5 have.
The P5 is the same size with the EM10. If the P6 has the same size, no evf, no weather sealing, and a higher price, it is more likely than not that it will flop, even if Olympus puts a 5-axis IBIS and the EM1 sensor in it. If, on the other hand, it has the price of the EM10 (or similar) and the size of the PL5/6 (or smaller), 5-axis IBIS, the sensor of the EM1, and – maybe, just maybe – even weather sealing, it could be a truly enticing proposition, even without an evf (I doubt that Olympus marketing department will ever give the green light to a PEN with evf). But I will not hold my breath…
Olympus should hire you
Thanks, Ulli, but I fear that the joke is not on me.
And – joking apart – what kind of price/features combination would you expect/wish to see, given that the new PEN must compete against both the EM10 and the GX7 (not to mention a game changer like the diminutive GM1)?
How does the E-P6 compete with the GM1 at all ? totally different feature set and philosophies.
(this is a general comment, not really aimed at anyone in particular)
As for the naysayers that keep despising the idea of an built in EVF , there’s no other way to maintain the E-PX line competitive, every other manufacturer has equipped their equivalent model with an EVF, it’s just idiotic at this point to keep going against the market and users. The evf does not add any bulk to the camera, the GX7 proved that (as well as the IBIS argument), so if you (people) don’t want to use it, just don’t. Having an add on evf is a complete downside, it occupies the hotshoe, adds bulk, is one more item to take care off, adds to the price, etc, etc, etc…How do I know ? because I used a VF-2 with PL1 for 4 years and now have a GX7, there’s no way I’m going back to that nonsense. Having a corner evf is beneficial for both right and left eye users, it provides more space to the right hand side for easy reach of controls, doesn’t put your nose against the (touch) screen and allows your free eye to scout the surroundings for subjects coming into the frame (like a RF).
Just get over it, if you really need the add on evf, get an EPL or PM model, if you hate corner EVFs then get an OMD and shut up, in fact, if you insist you will probably still be able to use the add ons just like with the OMD series so stop spreading this idea that a corner EVF is not necessary, IT IS. The greatest error Olympus could make is to abandon the PEN series, the OMDs are great but not for everyone and the only way to keep the PENs competitive is to AT LEAST offer the same features as the competition i.e. built in EVF.
How good did the E-P5 do sales-wise ? did it rock the market in any way ? no, because everyone left it behind feature-wise, that’s a fact. And an EVF is not going to revolutionize anything, it could have, some years back, but not anymore that’s for sure, so I’m hoping they wait until organic sensors or global shuter or some other distinctive feature to have some edge over the competition, otherwise an E-P6 will be another ¨could’ve been¨ story for Oly.
A little out of the loop. So, Olympus admitted the shutter shock problem and this firmware is to fix it. …and it’s already been fixed on the em-10?
Actually a good thing.
I don’t think Olympus actually admitted that there was a shutter shock issue…they offered a firmware update where the shutter shock issue is downplayed.
Really hoping for this update soon, so i can have my mind clear about the SS and go ahead and buy the 14-140 II
I went ahead and got that 14-140 II for my EP5.
Glad I did – I prefer it over Oly 14-150.
And a nice detail: you can turn on the OIS on the lens with a button, and have the EP5 turn off IBIS automatically. I have had less blur at tele focal lengths with the OIS rather than the IBIS (which also make too much noise in my opinion – like a badly tuned radiostation ) At least you can easily switch between both stabilisation systems, and see which one you prefer.
I don’t really understand the need for an E-P6, unless it means a new sensor is coming. Which would be a big surprise (also, that it wouldn’t debut on the E-M6).
The only feature they could add to it that it doesn’t already have is on-sensor PDAF like the E-M1. But why pick the PEN model if you are going to use big 4/3s lenses?
Seems like an odd choice to refresh that model…
EP6…
The only evolution that makes sense to me is a trial at better video prior to putting it in the OM-D line. It pretty much has everything else. Makes no sense to put in the EM1 sensor and processor as its really for pro’s with om glass. Unless, they put a optical viewfinder for nostalgia. Putting an evf for me doesn’t make sense in a PEN as the vf4 is good for those wanting a vf in a pen or else get an OM-d variant.
Agreed.
I am glad that hose who need some attention are getting it…I have had the E-M1 since December and I have been blessed that my unit does not suffer from shutter shock…and for those talking about video…I do not do much in the way of video but what the E-M1 has to offer is enough for me…If you want video…get the GH4…yes in an ideal world one camera would have both great stills and great video options
So far, comments say the GH4 has the best Stills/Video quality over ALL M43 cameras. So I guess the world is… Ideal.
hope they release the anti shutter shock firmware for e-pm2 pl5 too
…and E-PL6, too!
EP5 is fantastic- I have zero problems with it and the built is excellent. Improvements I’d like to see have pretty much nothing to do with IQ. First, add an OLED to the back or at least a trublack technology like Sony. I don’t care about the EVF being on the camera as I hate looking at that puggy rubber eye piece that sticks out of those that do. The attachment is fine, but make it cheaper. Interchangable grip- again, not a big deal but make it an option. Easier menu maybe, but it’s not bad as some would lead you to believe.
I don’t see how, YET ANOTHER, e-px camera without EVF could ever be succesful or even attract new consumers or upgraders, specially considering that absolutely every other competing model has an EVF built in. The E-P5 must be one of olympus’s least celebrated m4/3 cameras, oh don’t get me wrong, it’s beautiful and it has awesome features but, if we had to objectively measure its positive impact for the system as others models like the EM5 or GM1 have had, the E-P5 just went under the radar. No one is stopping people from using the VF-4 on a e-p6 with EVF, and if that sounds to outrageous then just get an E-PL model. To further negate the integration of an evf in the e-px line Olympus is dooming the PEN series to irrelevance. Why can’t Olympus offer the same level of options for its users like Pany does ? I’m brand agnostic and hate division on m43 but I can’t see why Pany can offer GF, GX and G/GH faux-DSLRs without any sign of conflict while Oly (and a vocal minority) gets horrified at the though of differentiating the PEN series fir better competition. Having an evf in the e-px line wouldn’t take anything from the user experience nor would it make your current e-px camera stop working.
This is a well-reasoned argument, although I have to say i actually prefer the EVF in the center, and the GX7 EVF feels a bit cramped in comparison. It’s especially useful when handling some of the larger glass like the 75mm or 12-35.
I love the EVF on the E-P5, and honestly can’t go back to the E-M5/E-M10/GX7 size now that I’ve experienced it, but I realize that I am in the very small minority. I also like that I can slap the 20mm on it and pocket the camera, whereas on the GX7 is sticks out.
The general camera buyer would like the value of the evf built in. The a6000 seems to get the price right there.
I bought the ep5 initially without the viewfinder. The very good screen almost negate the need for evf. And all Olympus cameras with evf have a hump behind, not as pocketable.
Having the evf now, the muscle memory almost intuitively brings the eye to the evf, even when it’s not there. In daylight it’s more useful. Not a great difference in use against the LCD behind otherwise. Having a tilting evf is kinda useful for me so the ep5 makes sense.
I can’t disagree with your argument. YOu make a good point as even the new sony a6000’s price point comes in really low with amazing features- state of the art speed too! I shoot full frame sony alpha gear but have recently picked up an EP5. I’m just so impressed with it that it’s been an absolute pleasure to use. They do need to put the EVF in that thing for marketing purposes. People expect it and there is more demand for that type of PEN. Price I think is Olympus biggest concern. Sony is killing them in this regard.
Is this firmware update only for the E-P5?
I know the E-M1 just got a recent firmware update, but it would be nice if they added another one with whatever “improved focus peaking” that they could offer…. Having different peaking colors would be the most logical improvement to the focus peaking, but I’ll admit I rarely use it anyways since the EVF is pretty sharp and detailed to let me know when I have perfect focus without using focus peaking.
I am hoping in vain this might include the ‘live composite’ mode of the E-M10. In the UK the body prices of the E-M10 and EP-5 are basically the same now, with the EP-5 a little less. The EP-5 is the more compelling choice for me: best build quality of any mirroless camera (my opinion); great handling with twin dials; 1/8000 max shutter; 5-axis IBIS; 10fps drive.
I am really intrigued this live composite thing though…..
There already is an anti shock mode on the ep5. Please be more specific.
You’re probably thinking of the shutter delay feature that delays taking a picture after you press the shutter, which helps prevent vibrations caused by physically pressing the button.
If you watch the E-P5 in action, you’ll see that the shutter closes briefly, then the sensor resets, and the shutter opens, ready to take a picture, then finally closing again. This new firmware update will eliminate the first shutter and instead use an electronic shutter while the sensor resets, for speeds slower than 1/320s.
Word is getting out from Olympus that there will not be any update for the E-P5 now. So does the “source” know what happened to kill this project?