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With the Fuji X-T1 announced today (specs here at Amazon) Fuji is going clearly after the Olympus E-M1. The size is about the same, they both have tilting LCD, both have a great EVF, both have about the same level of weather sealing. The major difference is that the Fuji has a larger APS-C X Trans sensor while the Olympus has the superb 5 axis stabilization and 1/8000 shutter. I guess the E-M1 finally got his first real competition. Let’s hope this will force Olympus to lower price and work on an even greater successor 😉
P.S.: The X-T1 viewfinder is quite big and is also “flat” just like the E-M10 that will be announced tomorrow (see image below)
X-Ti vs E-M10
Full Fuji X-T1 news, tests and more on my sister site MirrorlessRumors.com (Click here).
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The E-M1 has got touch screen with handy touch shutter func!
I realy like the Fuji X rangefinder cameras, but this thing is so ugly…Good Lord…!!
Ugly …. I was just thinking the same thing. It terrible actually. Oh well 🙂
Performance, handling and practicality mean more than looks in most cases.
Fuji SLRs have always been ugly even in the good o days. So, this is true to its tradition.
E-M1 has some advantages now like touchscreen, IBIS, and 1/8000 sec, while X-T1 has a larger sensor and a more affordable price. Their next models will no doubt try to beat each other with more features, Fuji getting 1/8000 sec and touchscreen and Olympus getting some other new features. So, it seems to boil down to a choice of these main difference, IBIS or IQ? However, the real decider is still the lenses. Fuji has excellent XF lenses and is making more and more lenses available. The only problem left is their size, and there is nothing Fuji can do about them. They will be bigger and heavier than M43 lenses, given the same quality. Just like Sony and other APS-C sensor cameras, their lenses are bigger and heavier if any good.
The question you will need to ask, for a long-term decision for your investment, is whether you want the best possible quality in a mirrorless at the expense of size and weight (of camera and lenses to carry)? And for DSLR owners, is the savings in size and weight worth switching.
and fuji managed to offer it cheaper than the overpriced E-M1!
Gee, I wonder if the price of the E-M1 had something to do with what price Fuji chose for this camera! And if the E-M1 was 100 more, then the Fuji would have been 100 more…
Get it?
well it’s 300 euro less actually, that’s quite a difference. the cheaptest price i can find the E-M1 is still 1499, although several months on the market already, while the X-T1 is going to be 1199. let’s see how the price will evolve, but in my opinion the E-M1 is totally overpriced.
You missed my point. Fuji was able to price their camera BASED ON the E-M1’s price.
If the E-M1 had been higher, then the Fuji would have been too.
Your initial post makes it seem like these **competitors** price their products in a vacuum.
No, they didn’t. They’ve said since the beginning that this is not XPRO1 replacement – the model that sits around the same range as the EM1. This model is between XE and XPRO line up and the price corresponds to that. And moreover, it’s priced right, while everybody always thought that the EM1 – and even some other Olympus’ cameras – were overpriced.
Where? In Sweden the Fuji cost 230 Euro more than E-M1.
Eh, no it itsn’t, the X-T1 is 1000 kr cheaper which is equivalent to $150 or €120…
It’s nothing new that a company with much smaller market share tries to compete on price. That’s what Pentax does with their DSLRs, which are cheaper than similarly featured models from Canon and Nikon.
That said, I do get the (perhaps incorrect) impression that the E-M1 is a more well-built camera than X-T1. And it does have a better shutter unit (1/8000 vs. 1/4000), a more complex sensor assembly with 5-axis IS, and a touchscreen.
On the other hand, the Fuji has a larger sensor and a slightly better EVF, but who knows where the real costs lie for the manufacturer?
Much better pricing than Olympus. Either Fuji is more cost effective or Olympus in serious trouble that they have to rip of customers.
Must be it. Fuji gives 5-axis IBIS for free! Oh wait…there is none…
Look…the X-T1 and the M1 are not going to win ANY beauty Pageants!…
What I want to know is how fast the Fuji focuses in low light and if the CAF is better than the M1? Would love to see a side-by-side comparison of just the low-light and action focusing capabilities of each camera.
That’s what I’m waiting for. I like the layout of dials and buttons of this Fuji. And I like Fuji for being a company that offers firmware updates also for older models.
That system has some really nice lenses.
One of my best friends uses x100s and XE2 as mirrorless cameras, results are really good, but those cameras really struggle when auto focusing in low light.
yeah…Rico’s Review has QUITE a discussion on the Predictive Hybrid AutoFocus here http://www.fujirumors.com/first-look-fujifilm-x-t1 just scroll down there is a comprehensive review with LOTS of photos…this looks like it may perform better than the M1…but I don’t know for sure….
There is no mention that I can find of low-light AF…and I am guessing that it will be similar to the XE2…otherwise it would be touted all over the place. Perhaps it has improved. We need someone capable with an M1 and X-T1 in there hands to give us the low-down.
Maybe it’s like the Seinfeld episode where she’s only pretty in the right light?.. I agree these angles don’t look great, others I’ve seen from more natural angles look much better. But really, the prettiest angles are from the back and the top, where you get to see all those sexy dials and buttons! I’d love an m4/3 with aperture on the lens, and SS and EV dials…Fuji might just tempt me away yet.
I think when you look thru the VF is when you truly see how beautiful the camera really is!!!! LOL!
I like the Fuji design a lot, but I remain skeptical of the sensor’s DR performance. As I understand it, X-Trans DR is rated at around 10 stops compared to m43 current sensor tech at 12.5 stops. Personally, I’d be willing to sacrifice 1 stop of high ISO performance in exchange for 2.5 stops wider DR. I don’t see X-Trans APS-C offering any real performance gains at this point since the OMD has also tossed it’s AA filter.
X-Trans DR is rated around 13-14 stops. It’s an APS-C sensor that 50% bigger than the MFT. ISO performance is also great (even at base ISO you could see noise generated from a MFT sensor) and from ISO 800 X-Trans has a 1-1.5 stop advantage over every MFT sensor.
Andy, that ISO advantage sounds plausible, however please post a link to the test data on DR, as of now I’m not buying it… Thx
You are both wrong. 🙂
The sensors are pretty much equivalent: http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Olympus-OM-D-E-M1-versus-Fujifilm-FinePix-X100___909_695
You’re wrong, x100 has not a Xtran sensor. Sadly Dxo don’t test them yet
instead of saying who is wrong or who is now(i couldn’t anyway lol), It’s obvious the Fuji having a(for me at least)subtle advantage the way it renders portaits and full body shots. I see no real problem with noise at base iso, as it looks natural. If you never shot film, you would be shocked when you scan them into your computer. Provia 100 transparencies in 120 roll film show its perfectly normal to have some grain. But I know dslr’s can have real smooth low iso’s (even very old kodak sensors for their cropped dcs 520/760 series, which were very clean at iso 80)
Native DR of the X-Trans II hasn’t been all that impressive has it (?) & I’m not sure how the DR expansion modes affect quality. DR is fiddly though, my SD15 tests appallingly & yet performs brilliantly for landscapes.
@Veluwen, I actually prefer the handling of the Oly, much more instinctive than dials from previous experience.
“E-M1 finally got his first real competition”
Why? The EM1 is not much better then GH3….
GH3: better video
EM1: Better AF with FT lenses (not interesting for most users).
Yeah, who’d want working continuous focus anyway (OSPDAF works for m4/3 lenses as well in order to enable this, unlike what you suggest)
Lets not even get into things like handling, weather sealing etc. Your list is clearly incomplete, and the one item you have on it is incorrect.
I like the dials for ISO setting, shutter speed and exposure correction. Very retro, very cool. But who needs Yet Another Lens Mount?
It has the same lens mount as the other X mirrorless cameras.
He was talking about someone ON 43RUMORS adding an X to their 43/m43 cameras.
I don’t like dials for shutterspeed , EV and now also ISO. the 1970’s have way past it’s 2014 and we live in the digital age. Those dials have no use today, there are way better solutions like buttons on a lens.
Ergonomically the X-T1 is hell, if you need to adjustsettings on to of the wheels you have to take the camera away from your eyes because you cannot operate it if you don’t. The wheels have locks. The E-M1 has only a lock on the program mode dial but you are free to change iso ev etc. This is not the case for the Fuji. Very dumb design if you ask me.
I have an E-M1 and have to say the X-T1 looks really nice! But, for myself, if I had to do it again, I would still take the E-M1 solely for the image stabilizer. IMO this is the most incredible feature. But, if I did not work in lower light, I would certainly further consider the X-T1.
Assuming that the low-light focus is actually better on this than on previous Fuji X bodies, then IBIS would be the one feature that I would really have to think about before giving up. I, too, shoot in low light a lot. The extra stop of shutter speed would help offset some of the IBIS advantage when shooting with primes (also proving an advantage in subject motion, which the IBIS does not), but would not totally make up for it. Plus, if the DOF gets too thin, then you have to stop the X-lens down to match the m4/3 lens, anyway. I’ve had plenty of shots where f/1.8 on the O45 or O75 was too thin (DOF-wise).
Well, if you think about it, the E-M1 is a bit better in low light with the IBIS AND better in bright light with the 1/8000 shutter speed. No matter what folk say about ND filters, I’d rather not have to use them, as they tend to build up the bulk of a camera bag.
The touch screen of the E-M1 is something I rather enjoy, to my surprise. Also, the larger grip of the E-M1, and the forward position of the shutter button suit me as well. Glad I didn’t wait for this camera!
I want them both!
Stupid GAS!
image quality = Fuji
gadgets = Olympus
BS = kab
I was really interested in this camera after the initial leaks & yet now… something’s not doing it for me, perhaps it’s the feeling that this is simply a repackaged, slightly improved X-E2? The E-M1 is an exciting camera, very subjective I know, this less so.
Competition for sure but having read Rico’s hands-on I think that most serious photographers comparing the 2 will favour the Oly! In the UK we have £100 cash back on the E-M1 so cost is even — I don’t consider 4/3 a poor man’s APS-C by the by.
Seriously, how on earth is that Fuji aims to challenge Olympus?? Fuji has the best IQ as many would agree, in addition to that they have a wonderful line up of lenses and very good managed noise with their APS-C sensor.
If Anyone of us wanted to buy a camera today and went to a camera store and found these two systems in a “close” price range, one of them APS-C, the other is M43……
you make your choice.
I’d go with Fuji if it had Olympus IBIS 😉
If you don’t mind the smearing and loss of detail even in RAWs then yes, it does very good noise management.
I thought that Adobe was doing a better job on the files these days???
The issue is noise reduction being applied to the senosr output before it gets put into the raw file. There is nothing Adobe can do to prevent this, its deeply embedded in the camera hardware and firmware.
oh..oh..that’s right….I remember reading about that…hmmmmm….Fuji is STILL doing that?….(a lot of people I respect are turned off by the X-Trans…maybe that is one of the reasons why)…kinda takes the RAW out of RAW, doesnt’t it???????? Wish I was more familiar…I have to admit I have not worked with a Fuji camera….there are things about them that are compelling… I am more intrigued with this camera and the expansion of the lenses..but if there is STILL a basic file and file processing issue (no…I am not going to go buy proprietary software and learn it to use just for this camera ..if would totally screw up my workflo…..
Wonder if the files are still an issue with the X-T1.
I would never make any kind of commitment to this camera system without knowing more about the RAW files and processing them.
Last time I looked they are still doing that, through only visible at high iso levels. I did not check for this specific camera however.
Indeed it somewhat takes the raw out of raw, but, pretty much all raws from all modern cameras have had some in-camera processing, in case of Olympus, things like pixelmapping and dark-frame subtraction also work on raws, making it blatantly obvious the raws are not totally unprocessed either. Whats more, in case of the E-M1 for example, getting rid of the OSPDAF pixels in the raw output also requires some processing, and from the way the raws look at higher ISO levels, I’m pretty sure Olympus does in fact add some masking noise (so upping the noise floor, but making the noise look more ‘grain like’ and hence less disturbing visually).
Bottoline, RAWs aren’t.
They’re not still doing that, they never were. But i can see how one might perceive the effects of improper demosaïcing as such, because basically DNR *is* messing up the pixels as well, except on purpose. So yeah Lightroom still has a bad effect to detail even after they supposedly fixed it, not that big a deal if you can restrain from pixel-peeping too much, but in any case you’ll be better off with other software if your only goal is to get the very most detail out of x-trans (and there is a lot of it).
So, to put it briefly, it’s not Fuji or the sensor doing any DNR, it’s Lightroom’s demosaicing. Use something else or accept it. There will be something new in the X-Pro2 end of the year.
And there is still notable loss of detail and softness at higher iso levels in Fuji’s ooc jpegs, images converted with capture one or the included silkypix etc etc, even when turning off all noise filtering/reduction in those programs. LR had its own problems for sure, but that is NOT what I’m talking about.
Its possible you are right and its not ‘in-camera’ NR as such, but rather a consequence of the unusual demosaicing required. For the actual result however it doesn’t matter, as its still unavoidable with anything we can use, all we can is slightly change the thing by picking different software (as in, better micro contrast but less detail, or more detail but worse micro contrast etc). The 16mp x-trans sensor should in theory deliver better detail then regular bayer array 16mp sensors, yet it doesn’t, rather the opposite from any output I’ve ever seen from it.
If they come with something new, I hope they at least don’t introduce a new mosaic which will again take many years to deal with somewhat properly.
And on another note, raws not being 100% raw is rather the norm, and not something specific to fuji or such.
And software will get better at it, just like Lightroom 1 was absolute crap at demosaicing the bayer sensor as well don’t forget! Where other were already resolving all detail … but LR does have other qualities than just image quality.
OK…Bart…Mr. Jr…I have a simple question….is ANY of this visible in, perhaps a 30″ print??? And therefore (have you actually seen a large print?) and witnessed the “smearing” etc. I have no bias….I just don’t know about the Fuji cameras…my only experience with the company other than reading about there newer cameras is with their films, roll and sheet and with their view-camera lenses…which were all quite good when used appropriately.
@Bob B, I seldom print that large and simply can’t say if it would show at that size, but to me it seems totally fair to say such differences usually don’t show until you start pixel peeping or taking print sizes to the extreme without careful processing.
Another side of this however is severe crops, where such things may show even when publishing to the web. To my eyes both look different, each with its own slight disadvantages, and to me it seems more a matter of which compromise you prefer (more noise and detail versus more artifacts and details versus less noise and artifacts but with less detail) then one being significantly better then the other.
Of course this merely looks at a small subset of what makes image quality.
Spreading lies again are we.
I was waiting for years for Olympus solution for 4/3 lenses.
Than I found out the solution is a partial soluiton mainly from my perspective is the AF doesnt work with 4/3 lenses when using Video.
So…. I thought to sell the 12-60 and 50-200 and buy as a start the EM1 + 12-40 which means 2,400 USD
The new Fuji + 18-55 f2.8-4 sells for 1,700
THAT IS 700 USD DIFFERENCE !!!
You don’t get continuous focus with 4/3 lenses for video indeed. S-AF still works however.
The Fuji has lots of knobs, which will wow the same photo-geezers who like all the knobs on the Nikon Df. But as usual, Fuji’s implementation of the small-but-important details is spotty.
For example, to change shutter speeds in full stops, there’s the big old-fashioned knob on top, which the geezers will love… but if you want to set intermediate speeds, you have to switch to using the control dial on the front. Presumably you have to jump back and forth between these two controls to step through a range of shutter speeds. WTF?!?
Then there’s ISO. Camera makers need to realize is a primary control now (you choose the optimum shutter speed and aperture and then adjust ISO for correct brightness) so it needs to be easy to change. Again Fuji has a big geezer-friendly knob for ISO… but whenever you want to change it, you have to shift your grip on the camera so you can press the lock button in the middle. Even Fuji fanboy Rico is already complaining about this, and it’s not something you can fix with a firmware update.
Olympus has done a better job all around on this: two dials plus a “gear shift” lever that let you control every setting you need to vary during shooting, without shifting your grip.
This attention to the details that count during actual photography — along with in-body stabilization and wireless TTL flash control, neither of which is likely to show up on Fuji anytime soon — is what’s keeping me with Olympus, even though it’s hard to resist being infected by the cool looks of the X-T1 and the enthusiasm of its fans.
I’m with you on the dials, I just don’t get it — Oly’s implementation offers a superior shooting experience for me.
This Fuji goes up more against the E-M5 in my mind (and beats it); it’s not a “Pro” camera, you can argue that the Oly isn’t but it’s a cut above what this offers! Both have strengths in different areas so it comes down to what people shoot but… from Rico’s feedback, I think I’d struggle to get on well with this camera.
There’s a lot of hype surrounding the X system bodies/sensors and lenses, a few too many towing the marketing line, will be interesting to see the reviews roll out.
Then it would probably explain why Olympus is finaly releasing the 12-40/2.8 as a kit for the E-M5…
E-M5+12-40/2.8 vs X-T1+18-55/2.8-4.0 … Something tells me the prices will be very close…
I’m quite tempted by the E-M5 Elite with 12-40 but I’m an OVF guy and really only the VF-4 has me tempted to switch. Decisions decisions…
You’ll have to wait for em5 mkII for vf4 I think…
“(you choose the optimum shutter speed and aperture and then adjust ISO for correct brightness)”
With Oly cameras you choose the lowest iso setting and the biggest aperture setting. Then you adjust shutter speed for correct exposure and pray that ibis will provide you with a sharp image…^^
Hey…Ranger9 (empahsis on Ranger (Lone perhaps?)….I am an old geezer (you know…one of the people you like to bash…)
Well this geezer is calling you out on this sentence: “Then there’s ISO. Camera makers need to realize is a primary control now (you choose the optimum shutter speed and aperture and then adjust ISO for correct brightness)”
LOL! You adjust your ISO for correct brightness? That is the funniest thing I have read in a while. Do you know anything about photography?????? LOL! You might want to turn the EV knob instead to adjust the brightness.
I’m sorry Bob, but he has a point really.
Aperture: DOF control
Shutter speed: motion blur control
Sensitivity: control exposure for the given aperture and shutter speed.
I’m old enough to have used cameras before auto exposure became a commodity, so call me old as well, but ever since we got some easy to change and decent ISO range on digital cameras covering more then some 2 stops, it has become a very useful extra control over exposure where the scene requires good control over motion blur and dof (and hence taking away shutter speed and aperture as primary exposure controls)
no..no…I get it, Bart…you misunderstand my sarcasm….(hee…hee)…..but Lone Ranger 9 did not express himself properly grammatically ….I know exactly what he meant…(instead of saying “adjust ISO for correct brightness”… if he had said “adjust ISO for correct exposure”…maybe I would let him slide for the Bashing-of-the-Geezers…but he did not, what he wrote makes no sense…that is the problem with you young-uns and texting etc….LOL!!!!), but perhaps he is young enough to go back to school and correct his command of the English language. 🙂
If being young means finding this years Grammy show hip, I’d rather be an old geezer. I was envisioning Keith Moons ghost coming out on stage and start round housing.
In fact I understod v. well what Ranger 9 meant. Trust is of the essence with Olympus: I use autoexposure and Auto Iso, often in P, making only EV corrections.
On second thoughts I could use fixed ISO, to spare noise, and let IBIS compensate.
Such a routine would make the measured knobs decorative, and even deceptive.
Olympus plays with retro but where it matters it delivers. We don’t shoot anymore like in the past. I know I had film, and you had a lot of failed shots, despite the knobs.
THIS! Having the full stop clicks, with additional controls to adjust the 3rd stops, is the single stupidest thing about Fujis. I decided to pick myself up a cheap Fuji X100, and got it at the same time I was borrowing a Leica M9.
The difference in controls is light and day. With the M9, you get half click aperture stops on the shutter and lenses – a total pleasure to use. With the X100, your hands have to keep flicking between 4 different controls if you want to work in full manual mode.. and you have to keep remembering which is the control for shutter 3rd stops, and which is the control for aperture 3rd stops.
As for auto-exposure – it is totally untrustworthy – all over the place. (Though I believe this is supposed to be fixed on the X100S).
So, compared to the E-M1 with its beautiful EVF, and one control for each of aperture and shutter speed – like every other single camera out there… I can’t see Fuji as an attractive alternative.
I do love that leaf shutter though: I keep hoping Sony will release an RX2 with a 50mm lens and the same EVF as the A7.
I would choose Fuji because of the upcoming 56mm f1.2. This combi can really challenge FF in term of IQ and DOF, and one stop brighter than a FF 85mm f1.4. Why ugly? All film SLR cameras look like that from day one.
Sorry, not one stop brighter, but brighter 🙂
This is really terrific.
Competition is great for us all, regardless if you are shooting with Olympus, Sony or Fuji.
Let’s hope we get a equally great update to NEX-7 (I mean Alpha XXXXXX whatever) and maybe
some of these prices will come down.
“Competition is great for us all”
yes and no.
Yes. if it is competition between similar quality products for similar outcomes for a similar life period and the product improves for the better for less or similar cost.
No. If its competition that reduces product quality, and outcomes. Reduces its life period and the product suffers because of cost reduction. We can all name companies that live on past glories and former quality, ones that now produce junk.
In one year Fuji will make it!!! Right now EM1 is still the mirrorless beast!
Putting my 6D up for sale TO-DAY.
And reserving this camera ASAP.
I was going to go Fuji before the GX7, and I’m glad I waited. This is the camera for me!
APS-C sensor, yet it’s the same size as the E-M1. Lenses included.
Sorry. The only thing the E-M1 can lay claim to is IBIS. And I never relied on ibis anyways.
Can’t wait for the comparisons… Not that it really matters, I’m sold.
Plus it’s less expensive. Doesn’t look good for greedy Olympus.
Sounds like a SEVERE case of G.A.S to me. 🙂
Nah, far from it. I’ve been thinking of moving to Fuji before the announcement of the GX7. I’ve held off after the GX7 announcement. But the limitations of the M43 sensor in my opinion was the biggest reason. So I sold my GX7 and will be selling the 6D, which I love, but It’s not the everyday camera that I need like the Fuji will be.
It has the size, sensor and lenses that I use regularly. The center VF, which I find comfort in and I’m assured that Fuji will look out for me with software updates.
Heck, look up some old 43 rumors GX7 , here’s one..
http://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-usa-confirms-the-gx7-on-instagram/#comments
Mine is the “IM GOING TO BUY IT.” -Before I started using “MrALLCAPS
As much as I liked the files, I knew I needed to go Fuji, just to try to get closer to my 6D files, without the size and weight of my 6D kit.
It just makes sense…
http://camerasize.com/compare/#520,380
Mind you, M43 can’t use size, when compared to the E-M1 anymore… The Fuji is smaller, with a larger sensor. Also, look at the lens size. Wow.
There are ‘a few’ more m4/3 bodies then the E-M1, and it can quite use the size argument with say a GM1. Finding the exception that doesn’t comply with the general rule isn’t difficult, but it doesn’t in any way disprove the general rule, rather, acting as if it is the only example just makes you look rather silly.
You indeed were all over the GX7, despite the off-center VF being a well documented feature which you seemingly dislike strongly. I’m really curious which excuse you’ll be fielding when selling off your next camera after a couple weeks, I’m pretty sure you’ll find you have totally overlooked yet another unacceptable yet totally documented and blatantly obvious ‘issue’.
Really, how about you stop chasing specs, and start looking at actual usability, start looking for actual reviews covering real usability aspects instead of just numbers before buying things, and in the meantime, figure out what it really is that you want in functionality and results instead of in spec sheet numbers.
….or perhaps direct the G.A.S. energy into creating photos! 🙂
First off, you don’t know me, so passing “judgment” of what I use and what I don’t want is silly.
Out of all the M43 cameras that I own or have owned, only one didn’t have a center VF. The GX7. Switching between that, the 6D and the G6, made my decision easy. I was WAY more comfortable and used to the center VF.
Even my G10, which i pull out for nostalgia every now and then has a center VF.
I find it hilarious the way people react to MY PREFERENCES and how I spend MY MONEY. Hilarious i tell you!!
No need to tell you what your preferences are, you are extremely loud about them.
I’m merely pointing out how you evidently don’t inform yourself very well before saying things or buying cameras.
Again, you could have known the GX7 has a corner EVF before ever buying it, so why did you buy it to begin with?
To try out if a corner EVF would work for you? That would certainly be somewhat valid, but the issue with that is that leading up to this GX7 buy, you have been extremely loud about how huge the advantage of a corner EVF is, and how EVERYONE was asking for this and how those who pointed out that in fact they did prefer a center VF were just clueless.
You are totally right, its your thing how you spend your money, but when you go advertise on a m4/3 forum how much cheaper some other competing option is, its only fair to point you at the fact that figuring out what you want and informing yourself before buying stuff is a lot cheaper then replacing your camera every few months in chase of something that is a moving target to begin with and while evidently ignoring other important aspects of cameras, such as how they fit in with your usage patterns.
Bart, that was one of the best replies I have ever read. Thanks for posting it.
Maybe if you weren’t such a jerk about it?
Maybe if you didn’t state some of your “preferences” as absolute, undeniable fact while ignoring all other aspects of why someone might prefer one camera (or system) over another?
Good luck with your Fuji, I hope it is everything you want it to be.
“Maybe if you weren’t such a jerk about it?”
Tissue?
Never knew posters were so sensitive…
Then again, this IS 43Rumors, Where if it’s not Olympus, it’s not right.
Albert Einstein: “Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
That also defines photographers.
Oh, really, m43 doesn’t have a size advantage over the X system? How about:
http://camerasize.com/compare/#466,491
or perhaps:
http://camerasize.com/compare/#493,472
And how small does a camera need to be before it becomes awkward? Most photographers want a camera’s handling to match their intended lenses anyway.
Nice,
Glad you are buying a Fuji, so now you can stay at fuji rumors and we don’t have to read your crap here. Bye bye, and don’t let the door hit you in your arse when you leave.
Please folks-
I read this forum because I’m in the market for a new camera. I’m interested in specs, photos, comparisons, news, considered opinions and intelligent discussions about all the new models as they’re released. I’m not averse to joking and good-natured ribbing as well. But the topic is cameras.
It’s clear that MrALLCAPS is just a troll / attention whore / drama queen. What he writes is immature- ill-considered and unintelligent. It’s just noise, no signal. Reading what he writes is a waste of life. Please don’t encourage him. Ignore him. The topic is cameras, not MrAC or his psychological issues.
This has been a public service announcement. The more you know. Thank you.
“I was going to go Fuji before the GX7, and I’m glad I waited. This is the camera for me!”
Bullshit, you didn’t wait, you got a GX7 just to sell it off a couple weeks later, claiming it was because of the off-center EVF (as if you didn’t know beforehand it would have this…).
Maybe you should stop being so utterly easily impressed by specs and think a bit more about what you actually need before buying the next camera that you are going to sell off a couple weeks later anyway.
Obviously, if you need the latest and greatest spec sheets, then buying the latest and greatest camera as soon as it hits the market does the job, but this has nothing to do with photography.
Obviously, you didn’t get my point.
I meant, I’m glad I waited, as in I’m glad I didn’t buy the XE1 when I was going to, instead I brought the GX7.
So my point, I’m glad I didn’t buy the EX1. OBVIOUSLY, you know I brought and sold the GX7 so lying makes no sense.
And while we’re at it, doesn’t it have similar specs to the EX2? So who’s chasing? IF there’s anything I’m chasing, it’s image quality.
I know, you’re upset… don’t be. I know I’m not.
Hmm, it seems more a case of you not getting the point. You just spent money on a camera which has a feature that you really don’t like. You could have easily known this beforehand, as it is very well documented to have this feature, actually, it was one of the main selling points of that camera.
So evidently you either simply don’t know what you want, or you are not informing yourself at all about the things you buy, else you’d have known this beforehand, and could have prevented wasting your money.
With regards to being angry.. you seem to have the meanings of ‘angry’ and ‘not angry’ reversed.
No, You’re not getting the point.
The Point IS, it’s my money, and I do with it as I see fit.
If I want to buy a Camera or anything for that matter, if I want it, I get it. It’s that simple.
If I don’t like it, either I return it, or I make someone else’s day.
And I said “Upset”, not “Angry”, There’s a difference.
So, you’re not Upset, you’re angry… Gotcha. -Don’t be.
Well, its certainly your choice to spend your money on things of which you can know beforehand you won’t like them, but if you decide to do so and be obnoxiously loud about it, its only fair that people start pointing out the silliness of that behavior.
Its no different now, you pre-ordered a camera that has just been announced, without waiting for proper reviews and field tests or anything that could have informed you about if it is indeed going to do what you think, and if it has any unexpected advantages/disadvantages that may be important to you.
Again, your choice, but if you decide to be extremely loud about it, don’t complain about people pointing out the silliness of it.
“Again, your choice, but if you decide to be extremely loud about it, don’t complain about people pointing out the silliness of it.”
THATS the point!
Well, that’s the price for some people that don’t want to wait… Why so sensitive about somebody else’s money?
The price for not wanting to wait? fair enough, I’m prepared to pay that price at times as well, through even then I tend to inform myself well enough to not end up buying a camera with a corner EVF while strongly disliking corner EVFs.
How you waste your money is none of my concern, your extremely loud misinformation and obnoxious behavior on this site however is.
Also, if you believe its none of our concern how you spend your money, you should at least be consistent, and accept its none of your business how others spend their money either.
I hope you’ll be happy!
You sleeping on 5-axis.
By all means, from how it looks, the E-M1 has clearly the better ergonomics for shooting with the finder. The important shooting parameters can be easier accessed while looking through the finder than it is the case with the X-T1. With X-T1, you have to move your left hand from the lens, in order to change ISO, and changing exposure correction seems not as easy as well, the position and the aledged stiffness of the exposure compensation dial. Other features, like changing from AF to MF can also be easier accessed with the E-M1. Also more functions seem to be accessible without consulting the menu, like HDR and Bracketing.
Add to this the fact that you still need a smaller sensor to keep the lenses small, m4/3 still has a considerable size advantage (and more diverse camera body concepts) and a much larger and attractive lens portfolio.
+1 It is easy to get smitten with Fuji products — they really resonate with some people’s aesthetics, including mine. But the lenses remain significantly bigger than those for M43, and while are an impressively growing collection, still far behind in variety. That coupled with the huge variety of body sizes and styles for M43 is what puts the system ahead, for me. That, along with the amazing auto focus speeds. But competition is good.
Olympus has a fair understanding of modern ergonomics, in Digital speed is of the essence.
I appreciate Fuji drive for ‘Slow Photography’ but not to the price of slowing down the ergos. It then tends to the effete.
LOL: “Fuji’s drive for slow photography!” But I have heard that from hot shot shooter/blogger/youtubers who evangelize the brand. Fuji was claiming the world’s fastest auto focus at the release of the XE-2 when coupled with one of the new lenses. And they have a “face detect” mode that as far as I know, doesn’t actually do Oly style face detection. Call me a wimp and not “pro,” but i find Oly face and eye detection amazingly useful at times, and miss it when I go back to moving a focus point or having to recompose. For “slow and considered shooting,” I recently treated myself to a pair of amazingly affordable classic film cameras. Since I love the rangefinder look and feel, instead of buying a X100s, I got the real thing at about half the price (an M3) and instead of the X-Trans “approaching full frame resolution,” i got a nifty Yashica Mat 120 film TLR and will be alternating between delusions of shooting in the footsteps of the Magnum greats with the Leica and Vivian Maier, early Avedon and Capa with the TLR. 😉 At a buck or so a frame, I just hope i go slow enough to get some “keepers.”
The “First” major competition to the E-M1 was/IS the Sony A7 FF camera for $1,700. Once there are more FE lens, the A7 will be the clear choice. Forget Fuji, Sony, Olympus’s partner is the 800 pound bear in this room.
What about AF performance? They say nothing about AF improvement over previous models, so it means no improvement. Not a competitor at all. Must go to the trash.
continuous AF just works on the Fuji, unlike mFT, where C-AF never really worked.
have a look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25805910@N05/sets/72157640158298025/
no way to achieve the same with the E-M1. maybe stopped down to F/22 so that background is in focus as well!
That link just ends up with a page that claims to be private, so nothing to see there.
C-AF on the E-M1 worked OK for me last weekend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/57916968@N08/sets/72157640173967223/
34 frames shot continuously, zooming out from 228mm-75mm at 4fps, from halfway up the rugby pitch to basically at my feet. Lost focus a couple of times, probably my fault for using small area centre focus instead of the 9 area option. But I’m pretty happy with it, considering it was the first time using it for sports, and I’m a rank amateur at sports photography.
I certainly got better results than any other parent from our rugby club, some using big DSLR’s with 3kg white lenses……
That’s cheating. Rugby is always in ‘focus’
While m43 will still have an overall size advantage, there is no getting around the fact that the E-M1 price is going to have to come down. I’d still like to see how the camera handles vs the E-M1, and if it is as solidly built. I’m guessing it’s more like the E-M5 in that regard, but we shall see. I still don’t think the E-M1 is overpriced per se, but the pressure is on for the next models.
Fuji seems to be doing everything right. However, they are a bit pigeon-holed in the enthusiast market. I love the pure retro design, but it’s not going to appeal to the masses.
years ago when I bought my brand new Nikon d300 I think it was 1700 USD body only . Today…the E-M1 totally outperforms my D300…the D300 ISO was only reasonable up to 400 …the E-M1 is fantastic at 1000 and very good at 1600…so no it is not overpriced…well maybe a couple hudred…but smaller is usually more expensive…the fuji is nice and IQ I think is only slightly better than the E-M1…I find the JPEGs overprocessed…even when turning that off…I had the X-E2…but returned it because even though improved…I found the autofocus lacking…I would like to have an E-M1 and an X-Pro2…if that sucker can focus…I really enjoy my E-M1…it has been below zero and in single digits much this month and the E-M1 has been stellar…and that is even after dropping it twice in the snow .For everyone who like to knock the E-M1…if you ever used one…it is a joy…you won’t get FF images…but you will get damn usable ones that you can print up to 24 x 36
And can we stop calling this an OMD like camera?! Why don’t we call the D5300 a Rebel like camera?
Not sure I agree with the premise that the XT1 is targeting Olympus. Yes, its pricing has to be comparative and most feel the EM1 is overpriced, but it’s in the interest of neither company to fight a war. Both will benefit, rather, by attacking CaNikon in their heartlands. I see the preferred strategy as, not so much Fuji vs Olympus vs Panasonic vs Sony, but rather Mirrorless vs SLR. Canon would love to see the mirrorless boys scrap amongst themselves. Better for all CSC fans that they continue to thrust into the mid-upper market sector with high quality cameras like these two. What Fuji needs more than anything is a fast expansion of good lenses.
I couldn’t agree more. I’ve said for quite some time, Canon and Nikon are the ones who need to be worried. I honestly don’t see too many m43 people jumping to Fuji because of this. However, I do see more people leaving Canon and Nikon for these mirrorless options as they improve…
I’ll also add that the Sony mirrorless FF cameras compete with Canon and Nikon, NOT with Fuji or m43.
Canon and Nikon are getting hit from all sides. I’ll admit that I’m a bit surprised that there hasn’t been the impact I thought there would be. However, recent developments like the X-TI, A7 and more importantly the entry-level E-M10 are going to start the shift from Canon and Nikon.
I think the E-M10 could have more impact than all of these cameras.
Good to hear the voice of reason. I think the shift from CaNikon has already started as more people recognise that innovation has been coming from the mirrorless group. However when you are the establishment it takes time for the established view to modify without appearing foolish: only in recent times have many journalists and reviewers seen that the future has been mirrorless for quite a while. Commercially however it is looking different, especially in N.America, where I suspect many buyers cannot get what they want because retailers are still reluctant to stock what they fear cannot sell as well. Here in England attitudes are slowly changing: good dealers no longer attempt to steer me onto a “proper” camera. But change will be slow for the present, which is frustrating as it is economies of scale in production which can offer greater technological progress and savings, whereas for years the SLR makers have sat back on very little innovation, content to rip us off with often overpriced cameras and – particularly – lenses.
“I’ll also add that the Sony mirrorless FF cameras compete with Canon and Nikon, NOT with Fuji or m43.”
Why doesn’t the A7 compete with MFT? I does for me.
I still have my Panasonic MFT but I’ve only used it once since getting my Sony G1. I sold my 5D and all of the lenses.
Er… Sony A7, not G1 😀
John, Agreed.
However, some players will not last long in CSC’s… Because the closer CSC’s get to Canikon, the more Canikon will take CSC seriously. A 7D, with a body similar to the size of a Em1 or even a GH3 would spell trouble.
Canon is also rumored to do a Hybrid VF with a upcoming camera and they are looking to reduce the size of some of their cameras. Can you imagine a Canon APS-C camera in the size of a Lumix G6? Sure, that may be a few years off, if that, but that’s where I see it going.
Besides. Canon spends money on marketing.
Your point is taken. Canon have marketing clout, true. If they chose to do it properly, they could hit the market with an APS-C size CSC, as you say, and back it with financial grunt. So far, they appear only to have put a (very) half-baked toe in the water with the EOS-M/M2, so it’s clear they will labour on with their SLR cash cows for as long as they can milk them. Meanwhile, they would appear to be getting behind in innovation, in time they may have to run hard to keep up with OlyPan, Fuji and Sony, relying more and more on finance deals. Perhaps they can win this way, I don’t know. If Canon came to the party with a seriously good CSC offering, I would say, Amen. But they appear to have nailed their colours to the mast for the immediate future, and I see it as negativity. One final point: I bought m4/3 for its innovation, now I value more and more the portability of small lenses and bodies. Until APS-C can pull off that trick, a few punters like me will stay with OlyPan regardless of Canon power.
Well Said.
taking a step back and looking at the ever changing innovations taking place release after release I can’t help but think that it reminds me of throwing bread in a pond packed full of carp or goldfish and watching them thrash about to get a morsel. We have all lost our grip.
What do you mean??
It’s like a photography feeding frenzy. Mass hysteria….mass Consumerism. Buying stuff, selling stuff, upgrading, downgrading sideways-grading. This company vs that company. This format vs that format. I love photography and gear as much as the next person but my head feels like it’s going to explode sometimes. I’m going to buy a F!%ing easel and starting Plein Air painting.
Unfortunately this was always part of the history of photography, that is why the early pioneers of the 1850s went back to painting after a decade of discovering new emulsions, and tricks making fake reality.
Seeing and imagination are not part of it, so an artist should take a step backwards from the… killing field.
“(you choose the optimum shutter speed and aperture and then adjust ISO for correct brightness)”
With Oly cameras you choose the lowest iso setting and the biggest aperture setting. Then you adjust shutter speed for correct exposure and pray that ibis will provide you with a sharp image…^^
I think this is pretty embarrassing for Olympus.
1. The FUJI sensor is twice the size of Olympus M43 sensor
2. The FUJI body is smaller (the entire point of MFT is size and weight savings vs. quality)
3. *and* the FUJI body is less expensive
There are really only two reasons why I’m not interested in FUJI’s system:
1. Unlike MFT it’s not open — everything has to come from FUJI
2.have bought 9 MFT lenses and like where Panasonic is taking the system.
Really like Olympus lenses but simply can’t consider their bodies because they miss on cost, size and absolute basics like decent support for Video outside the US/Japan. I just don’t understand this company.
The Fuji body is smaller because it doesn’t contain an IBIS.
1. The FUJI sensor is twice the size of Olympus M43 sensor
Hmmmm… seems you have some math problems…
1. No it’s 50% bigger
2. A tiny bit smaller
3. No atleast not where I live.
E-M1 12990SEK
Sony A7 13490 SEK
Fuji XT-1 1499 SEK
Sony A7r 20390 SEK
Body only prices for all four.
Sorry, the price for the Fuji is 14999 SEK, not 1499 🙂
Rchard: You use the wrong Swedish photo supplier! Cyberphoto price for XT1 is 10990 sek.
Yes Per K, you are right and then I agree that the E-M1 is overpriced, even if I have one.
Let’s not forget however that m4/3 lenses are still smaller and lighter, so overall the “size” issue is still a valid point for Olympus. Not only that but m4/3 lenses are also quite a lot cheaper in average. For me for example, the cost of Fuji lens takes away a lot of the appeal of their otherwise excellent system.
No, 370 vs 225mm^2 is not a factor 2. EP5 or GX7 are still smaller, lenses, too. Fuji lenses are not cheap either, you can’t compare the pro 12-40 to the 18-55/2.8-4 (not whether, frost-proof, minimum focus distance, equiv FOV). Nevertheless, nice camera
I’m looking at this Fuji to be my everyday carry camera (EDCC) and eventually I’ll pick up a G6/7 for the video side.
If I need FF, I’ll probably just rent.
I just wonder for how many weeks it is going to be your everyday carry camera before you sell it off again to chase the next magic bullet.
You remind me of the pundits in the IT industry, always talking about the ‘next big thing’ that is just over the horizon, to drop it as soon as it actually arrived, in favor of the next big thing, rinse, repeat.
Don’t worry bart. When I sell it, you’ll be the first to know. Then again, i don’t recall giving you a ring… why so concerned about what I do with MY money?
hahaha!
Just an Italian friendly advice: instead of spending money on the “new thing” I suggest you to keep the camera you have, and spend those money on a trip. Where you can use the camera you already have.
If you can’t travel, buy some photography and art books. Looking at paintings helps photography. And you can look smarter and cooler when you meet someone on a trip. 😉
Marco, not to put too much personal info out there, I design, Ive been to Asia numerous times. No need to pose, nor look “cool”. That comes natural for me. Don’t need books unless I’m learning from it.
My last trip I took just my GX1 with the P/L25, and my P/L 14 – 50mm 43 lens. Took some nice Hong Kong and Guanzou (?) Pics.
Poser? Haha! That’s not in my blood. My camera is an extension, not jewelry around my neck.
That would be quite a bit more convincing if you didn’t replace that camera every couple weeks as if it were cheap fashion jewelry! 🙂
Bar above wrote it clearly: if someone comes to this pages and read your comments, he will have a (wrong, if you say that) idea of you. It seems you can’t find peace with your camera gear, and jumping on the last new gear available each time something new hit the stores, does not help. 🙂 I would choose the word “interesting” or “fascinating” than “poser”.
Mine was a free suggestion, nothing offensive at all: enjoy and master the gear you have, your camera must be your slave (quote by Daido Moriyama). Look and enjoy photography and look at Renaissance masterpieces: these will teach you the “secrets” of composition and light (this comes from me) 🙂
well for someone to just read my comments and ASSume what they think (like bart is) and pass judgement is on them.
It’s a forum, a crude form of entertainment in my opinion. Especially going off the deep end (like the Olympus Fanboy Supreme, C.C.) just by reading my comments and replying in dislike. It’s very amusing.
It’s also amusing that I can’t sell my GX7 without getting someone here in a fit and that I’m “Constantly Jumping” to new gear. HAHAHA!!
Maybe I should announce a M43 E-Yard Sale… That would really boil some blood around these parts, huh?
However, I will hold onto my 3 M43 bodies and hopefully adding a 4th. So I will keep my lenses as well.
So to that point, I DO enjoy my Kits and I HAVE mastered some. After all, they’re all tools.
Except, not the kind of Tools that are around these parts…. HAHA!
You just had a nice idea: Admin, what about a place where registered readers can sell their gear?
“It’s also amusing that I can’t sell my GX7 without getting someone here in a fit”
Its amusing you make all kinds of assumptions about others, yet can’t stand it when people simply confront you with the things you have posted yourself.
“and that I’m “Constantly Jumping” to new gear. HAHAHA!”
Hmm, considering 3 m4/3 cameras, soon going to add a 4th, posting in this same thread about selling your D6, having to announce how you placed a pre-order for a new fuji announced today, without even waiting for some real field tests and reviews… yeah, how dare I draw that conclusion, its obviously unfounded and only based on you selling your GX7!
As it happens, pointing out the utter silliness of people like you amuses me, so we do agree on one thing it seems, forums and entertainment.
Doesn’t the XT-1 use the same sensor as the EX-2?
That’s good enough for me, not to mention it has more than enough controls.
Don’t need to hear much more really. Fuji will back the camera with updates if need be and for what I’ll use it for will work much better than my 6D would, with near image quality.
Don’t worry, I’ll be fine. I’m not vested in M43 lenses like that anyways.
MrALLCRAP – you are clueless.
hmmmmmmm…..I wonder what his photos look like……hmmmmmmmmm……….
This is a killer thing… as yet no camera can deliver good IS, Video & high ISO quality in a single package… so many are so close but none yet bring it all together… untill then I will stick with my EP1… I can’t be dealing with 2 cameras! sigh…
After Sony made an FF camera costing less than the E-M1, now this Fuji will beat Oly’s pants off, for less money. This is a shame.
But the most shameful thing is the E-M1 sensor has 20% lower ISO capacity than that of E-PM2 which costs four times less.
Did you already read http://www.dxomark.com/About/Sensor-scores/Use-Case-Scores ?
If you didn’t, you should, if you did, you clearly failed to understand it.
Now please go enjoy your E-PM2 (which is a really nice camera btw), or that K3 you were going to buy.
The area where DXoMark do not know what they are talking about is precisely when they discuss Use Case Scores and say that 1/3 EV is “slightly noticeable”. How do they know what is “noticeable”, what is not and what is “slightly noticeable”? What are the definition and the values of “slightly”? In physiological terms, not physical!
According to DXoMark, the difference between the ISO performance of E-M1 and E-PM2 is about 20% in favour of E-PM2 and the difference between E-520 and E-M1 is about 25% in favour of E-M1. Really?
If the DXoMark statement were true, this would mean that the difference in ISO performance between E-520 and E-M1 is “slightly noticeable”! An estimate like this can be met only with laughter – the two cameras have absolutely different sensors, of different generations, and in shooting in low light the E-M1 is in a different league. Most people here will agree with this. And the difference in shooting in low light between E-PM2 and E-520 is enormous!
Analogously, the difference of 20% in the ISO performance in favour of E-PM2 over E-M1 being 20% is real. I have my own eyes and I know the difference in favour of E-PM2 over E-M5! And the E-M5 has a better ISO DXoMark result than the E-M1.
I believe DXoMark’s results of their investigations in physics, but when judging differences in cognitive terms they go wrong.
The E-PM2 is the ISO champion and the E-M1 is a failure in its ISO performance, lagging behind ALL the Olympus cameras with the new sensor. A failure that calls for sheer vanity to spend four times more for.
“According to DXoMark, the difference between the ISO performance of E-M1 and E-PM2 is about 20% in favour of E-PM2 and the difference between E-520 and E-M1 is about 25% in favour of E-M1. Really?”
But you keep referring to their measurements for your claims about the E-PM2 being the best low-light camera from Olympus. Obviously you either don’t understand how to read their results or you cherry-pick their results and statements to only include what happens to favor your opinion.
Also, quite some time ago, I already showed you how your math is simply wrong, and how you seemingly don’t understand how percentages work.
Improving from say 400 to 600 is a 50% improvement, but going the other way, from 600 to 400 is only a 33% loss. Without making clear how exactly you get to your numbers, they are totally useless.
How about you go explain why you like your E-PM2 or whatever camera so much, without this totally inane need to shit on other things? I know that whenever you do, you are a very pleasant person to have a discussion with (not because of being in agreement, but because you have interesting things to say), but whenever you get into this ‘the E-M1 made the sky come falling down’ rant mode, you are just making yourself look totally silly.
The Sony A7 is $1699 and the Olympus E- M1 is $1399. So in your warped mind, the Sony is cheaper? You have zero credibility. Why don’ t you and MrALLCRAP hold hands and skip off into the sunset?
Strange! In Europe it is exactly the opposite: E-M1 is €1500 and the Sony A7 is €1300.
Strange, in my part of Europe, an A7 bought from an official dealer costs at least 1498 euro, more often in the direction of 1700 euro. An E-M1 bought from an official dealer costs at least 1399 euro, more often 1499.
No, I’m not going to consider gray imports and such.
Its interesting how E-M1 prices have dropped much less then A7 prices despite the first having been available longer.
I was referring to idealo de where E-M1 is definitely €1500, A7 a little over €1300. Then checked idealo fr and it and, yes, you can find E-M1 for about €1300 there – but the prices of A7 are even lower there. Good news anyway. I suspect the price of E-M1 will collapse, even soon. And then I will get another E-PM2 for very very little money 🙂 Yes! The ISO champion! I love it. Or will get an E-PM2 and a K-30. Because if I were to buy E-M1, it would have to cost €800. It doesn’t, then no buy 🙂 Yes, I need a camera for my 43 glass, but got accustomed to the idea that the E series (of which I have three) are perfect in good light. For God’s sake, €1500 buys you three K-30s, each of which beats the hell out of E-M1. No fair play from Olympus.
Lets go through that bit by bit..
“I was referring to idealo de where E-M1 is definitely €1500, A7 a little over €1300. Then checked idealo fr and it and, yes, you can find E-M1 for about €1300 there – but the prices of A7 are even lower there.”
So if you shop around, you may find both for approx 1300 euro.
“Good news anyway.”
That we agree on, more value and choice for our money is always good.
“suspect the price of E-M1 will collapse, even soon.”
Maybe, but its not showing any signs of it, and past history of similar cameras from Olympus suggest it will be a while.
“And then I will get another E-PM2 for very very little money :-)”
Can’t have enough of them eh? through, I actually do see your point of having a body for each lens, but I limit it to using 2 or at times 3 bodies for preventing ‘on the road’ lens changes.
“Yes! The ISO champion! I love it.”
whatever.
“Or will get an E-PM2 and a K-30. Because if I were to buy E-M1, it would have to cost €800. It doesn’t, then no buy :-)”
Whatever you want to spend is upto you of course, but I’ll remind you that in the past you also said you’d spend the 1499 euro if it were a DSLR, so it seems your limit is a bit flexible.
“Yes, I need a camera for my 43 glass, but got accustomed to the idea that the E series (of which I have three) are perfect in good light.”
I own 3 of them as well (420, 620, 3), and yes they are perfectly fine in good light, and actually, if you know what you are doing and can spend a little more time on pp, are quite usable still in less good light.
But none comes anywhere near competing with an E-M1, not in good light either. The E-M1 has a significantly better dynamic range, which allows exposing more to the right, resulting in much better noise levels. You probably do know dynamic range is the difference between the noise floor and the highest level that can be recorded. Besides that, its AF performance is close enough to the E-3, and better then the other 2, and it being ‘on-sensor’ adds a lot of benefits, such as the various MF assist modes being directly available for checking and possibly correcting critical focus, being able to track objects through the frame, face recognition etc.
“For God’s sake, €1500 buys you three K-30s, each of which beats the hell out of E-M1. No fair play from Olympus”
It may buy you 3 K-30s, but without lenses those won’t do anything, also not beat the hell out of any camera.
But will 1500 euro buy you replacements for say the 12-60 and 50-200 SWD besides enough K-30s to mount them on? 🙂 or iirc you have the 11-22, I assume also a 14-54 and 50-200? How about replacing those and buying a K-30?
Those are the actual choices that matter when considering 4/3 lenses, and the overall price for going the K-30 route will be different then what you suggest here.
Not saying that you shouldn’t btw, thats entirely upto you, but misrepresenting your choices isn’t very helpful for ending up with the right choice for you.
No it’s not any strange. It’s Olympus. Their cameras are vastly overpriced here. I would never get into Olympus ship if I wanted a new camera. Fortunately even in our small country it’s quite easy to get some “cheap” Olympus used gear.
There’s no need to get so angry. 🙂 Just be happy with your camera. Btw, on Em1 noise has a more grain-looking aspect that I find nicer than that of previous Olympus cameras.
(And IMO DXO numbers are good for a chat in front of a couple of mojitos or some glasses of good wine)
The values are based on logarithms, so you can’t just use a linear extrapolation. DxOMARK really tests it based on physical grounds using optical benches, exactly defined settings and measurement techniques. Their single value scores need to be considered carefully, as they are weighted (using a certain DR, for example). It’s better to look at the measurement curves.
In reality the difference in lighting conditions, subject/camera movement, camera lens interplay makes this measurement values even less replicable. It would be also fine to have error bars as is usual in science. I couldn’t see the difference of EM5 and EM1 (I have both) in my shots, so I don’t care. I additionally never have to go above ISO 1600 (thanks to IBIS) and the situations I shoot in. So Fuji has no real benefit to me. FF on the other hand (really shallow DOF) gives me a benefit.
Fuji always doing a good job & this time it’s no exception
The XT1 is a promising stuff , only it didn’t look well like my handsome GX7 . Fuji need to spend more time on it’s design , avoid too classic .
I might get a Fuji cam soon but must with real breakthough like an Organic sensors tech .
X Pro 2 or X200 likely to fill my bill !
Challenge……LOL and LOL again. M43 sensor vs Fuji APSC. M43 is going to lose big time.
The only loser here is you.
Admin, no offense, but it’s OMD-like, not OMD alike 🙂
Any suggestion that Fuji is going after the Olympus OM-D E-M1 with the new X-T1 is just silly talk. It looks like an old Fujica ST. Period. Guess what, an original Fujica looked a lot like an original OM, which looked a lot like a Nikon FM. There’s only so many ways to slice an apple.
Recently evaluating EM5 vs XE1/XA1 I would say IBIS is an important advantage. Concerning IQ, my comparing was made on A4 (210x297mm) prints. Fuji clearly wins: The major advantage is “color definition” – clear, muted, right. (Well, actually the Fuji AWB is not great needs adjustment more often than the EM5. But Fuji images have the upper hand before and even more after adjustment. The X-trans algorithms for high ISO performance comes at a price: The EM5 has a little more detail and more noise at 200ASA and in open shadows. Dynamic range: Again X-trans means better “punch” which lowers DR a little. Can´t really say which is best, as I remember it from DPR, EM5 is better in DR.
From a large print point of view, A2 is the upper limit for both – in my experienced and very critical eyes.
Both cameras have great IQ, I prefer Fuji for the color. None of them is near my D800 in any IQ aspect except, again, the Fuji color. The D800 also wins in weight, being same as the EM% and EX1 together!!! 🙂
Any word on improved attention to video on that Fuji?
apparently it’s the same as the XE2
I’ve finally let the hype settle. This looks like a solid offering for Fuji. As mentioned by others, fuji’s killer ingredient is color rendition. I don’t see this as a major upset for Olympus though. The Oly has a much smaller form factor in terms of lenses and IQ is still exceptionally good. Neither IMO loose in the case but can only help build the reputation of mirrorless offerings such as these. Plus, the really good Fujinon glass isn’t exactly cheap. Once you get close to 1k territory I’ll take the FF glass please.
My old disposable camera challenges the EM-1. What were Olympus thinking? Tiny sensors, which means far less light, blotchy ISO performance, slow expensive lenses, extortionately priced bodies. Just get a full frame camera for the same price.
???? 399.00 for both a fast 45 and soon to be 25mm doesn’t sound extortionary to me. You can pick up a barely used 12mm F2 for around 500- still not to bad in the grand scheme of things. We didn’t even mention the dirt cheap 17mm and 20mm offerings. Grab yourself a EPL5 for under 5 bills all day long online.
If you play your cards right you can have an Oly system at a very reasonable price IMO.
Correction, in relation to the OMD1 and some of the most recent zooms- yeah, the prices are stupid high. It doesn’t speak for everything though.
Camera looks great (not sure how well the PDAF works). But no IBIS. Also, and more importantly, a body is just a vehicle for your lenses. m43 has all the lenses. I want/need something at the long end. Panny and Oly have SOMETHING. Fuji? With Fuji it’s the roadmap aka “Buy the camera day for the lenses which may be available Tuesday”.
Not knocking the camera at all. Just doesn’t seem that interesting given the lenses.
Haha, come on! Whatever any company releases, it is “OMD-alike”.
Amazing isn’t it? camera companies releasing cameras that look like… cameras!
The third big difference is IMHO that the available lenses for the OM-D is much smaller.
As usual, it comes down to what you want. A larger sensor with larger lenses, or a smaller sensor with smaller lenses, IBIS and a larger range of lenses.
For me it is the OM-D for the small lenses and IBIS, but I can easily see that it could be the Fuji for others.
i had an X-E1 last year with 18mm, 35mm ,60mm macro and 18-55mm ,.i was really disappointed with the camera,.even though,.many people said ,.Fuji it has better IQ, but honestly i did not see much of difference; is because the E-M5 sensor more than enough for my need and also the 5-AXIS IBIS is killer deal,.which make you forget to use A High ISO Setting.
when you compare the performance between Fuji & OLY in the field for a street photography ,Fuji is nowhere near the performance of M43[OLY],.that is one of the reason why i sold my X-e1,.and also at they time is not easy to open the RAW file X-Tran sensor,.like nowadays,.
The JPEG file between OLY and Fuji,.is like heaven and earth,.i admit they Oly has one of the best JPEG engine right now,.while the JPEG color on Fuji is like WATER COLOR,.
i tried the X-E2 at PDN last year but still the performance was not fast enough to convinced and moved me to get a new body .
If The X-T1 has really good performance as they said ,.i might have to purchase Its been long time since the last time i use my XF lens,..i love the the user inter face button,.especially the ISO & Shutter speed dial wheel,.[too bad is not 1/8000 sec].
This Fuji system looks great, and I wish this had been available when I decided to switch from Canon DSLRs to my current Olympus OM-D system. While I don’t think the Fuji is a “micro-4/3 killer”, it does present some interesting options for people now, and that’s good for everyone!
I really hope this pressures Olympus and Panasonic to drop their prices, which would be good for everyone.
Overall, I think “my camera is better than your camera” discussion is kinda silly. We should all be celebrating how these new developments are giving us all better cameras to work with! Win-win!
It is the system. Lenses + body, at least to me. APS-c is a dead end wen ou want a small sstem with good zooms. I even think thart 40-10 2.8 Oly is way too big…
Fr those who don’t mind it that much, the Fuji is a very nice cam I think. And yes it looks a lot like the OMD. How is that not true? Yes, the GX7 looks a lot like the NEX7. Similar thing. Not so difficult to see I think.
Some people are clearly in denial, don’t be a fanboy nor hater, just look at what it is. For starters, let’s drop which one is better because that’s an overrated subjective concept. Choose whichever you prefer for your own personal reasons and be happy with it, don’t go trying to convince every single person taht doesn’t think the same to change their mind, that’s useless and stupid.
Fuji didn’t change their pricing because of Olympus, they said this camera would be between XPRO and XE and it’s priced that way. Actually it’s Olympus that sometimes overprice their cameras.
And yes, this X-T1 does look nicer besides the X-M1 because it’s priced more properly. Each of the two has pros and cons, I still feel like the E-M1 is much more refined, but Fuji, they are evolving in such a fast pace and there is a lot to like on this new camera, it really does.
Sensor size and come benchmark are overrated but nonetheless, it does offer a bigger sensor, the EVF really looks great, the dual screen for manual focus is really nice. Plus it has so many dials, once you custom everything and have some time with it, it will become second nature. Olympus still have the 5-axis IBIS and it seems that some dials from Fuji let a bit to be desired but it’s matter of choice, they are both great.
But I have to say, the pricing, the dials, the size, it does make the X-T1 much more appealing for me. Too bad they haven’t yet managed to allow full manual controls in video, despite the dedicated recording button.
Kudos for Fuji for such a fast pacing evolution plus their Kaizen philosophy. Some people pay too much attention of the bodies, but Fuji is always bringing something new, the split focus, now the portrait mode and dual screen, these little things really makes some difference. I hope they can at least give more controls for video and possibly 24p.
funny the prices people quote here shame you can never find them when
you look
will have a look at the fuji this week end
any idears on how much fujis f2.8s will cost
the only reason i am thinking of changeing from MFT is lack
of a good supertelephoto (300-400mm f4)
if fuji make a good supertelephoto they will get my money
Reserved thru Amazon, Mission Accomplished.
WOW. That was quick…
The XT-1 shot to the top of the CSC rankings on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/3109924011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_1_4_last
The EVF on the Fuji sounds VERY Nice (see Rico’s comments under his 1st look review on FR): big, uncluttered, and it’s refresh rate stays at 54fps down to ~EV1.x, vs ~30fr for the E-M1.
I have the GH3, and often find in low light that I have to switch to A from M, just to see anything in the finder, and things get messy…
He also mentions decent low light AF in a response down in the comments.
If only Fuji would add some features/control to the video side!
Why OMD like camera.. it looks lot different in looks. Not like the ugly feel of OMD style. This one may sink E-M1
It is very weird that none of these cameras support PAL.
I wonder why.
And please for Good sake do not start your sentence with ….but this camera is made for still picture and not video.
Fine, I get it, but getting the right f***ing frame rate for the region you sell your cameras can and must not impede the quality of your stills. If the processor can do 30p it should be able to do 25p/24p
Again, I am not asking for all-in best in class codec with perfect video quality.
If anyone has a technical explanation I would like to hear it.
Hmm where is all thi whining about video specs? No 25p and no 24p, no buy! 🙁
The Fuji seems to be a very nice camera, and I would feel tempted to buy one, if the lenses for the APS-C system would not be so big. Therefore, I better stick with my E-M1. 😉 However, I can definitely understand why people might want to switch to that camera. Let’s wait for the reviews, though…
You got it – yes the IQ is good from the Fuji X-series especially the skin tones and they are well built and have a goo menu system and look nice – but the key is LENS SEIZES – M43 is the perfect balance – the Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 (x2 crop 70-200mm F2.8) is about the same length as the Fuji X kit lens 18-55 and even thinner and lighter – enough said 🙂
If one wants more shallow DOF then just get the Lumix Leica 42.5mm F1.2 lens with AF –
I do have the X100s and X20 – but stopped there as Olympus and Panasonic offer so many more nice features like Touch To Focus/Shoot etc – Touch LCD etc etc – and smaller and lighter lenses
Seems to be a better cam, and it’s cheaper then the E-M1… So now I’m thinking to sell all my Olympus stuff (E-M5 and lesens) and buy the X-T1 and the 18-55 and 55-200… Ok, first I will try out the 12-40 that I will receive this week 😉
No, the X-T1 looks really nice, but I’m waiting for a camera with new sensor technology in 2, 3 years 🙂
The X-T1 looks nice – really the X-E2 in a different skin –
I am amazed that Fuji put a tilt-LCD on the X-T1 🙂 that is not what Purists like –
so of course hell will freeze over before Fuji will do Touch LCD and Touch To Focus – I guess moving arrows keys up up up and left left left is so much better 🙂
I do have the Fuji X100s and X20 and I am not a brand name bigot – just want the best for the money and a camera with good IQ and good controls and with a practical size on body and lenses – Sony A7/r is FF yes and small body, but who will put a 70-200mm F2.8 lens on that small body – Sony will not be producing any fast Zooms for many years – only a slow 70-200mm F4 at whopping $3000 which is very large – OK a bit lighter than the FF mount but still looks crazy on that small body and with such a little grip.
I think M43 is the perfect comprise as far as lens sizes and body sizes –
The Panasonic GX7 and OMD-EM5 and OMD-M1 are fantastic – and so many fantastic M43 lenses –
Fuji will not come out with a 70-200mm F2.8 – Sony in NEX or E-mount has not produced either a 24-70mm F2.8 or a 70-200mm F2.8 – the small NEX bodies just will not support it – Fuji X=T1 might support a 24-70mm F2.8 but not much more
I am sold on M43
[In response to above] Sorry, but Fuji is releasing a 50-140 f/2.8 (75-210 eq) around the time the X-T1 body becomes available.
I expect their fast zooms to be similar in IQ to some of the best around. Somewhat bigger and heavier than m43 examples, though.
For me, it’s the idea of the really nice, Large viewfinder, w/well-implemented focus assists that make the Fuji possibly compelling.
Hopefully they will throw the videoists a bone via firmware at some point. (Fuji seems like the most likely company to do that these days.)
does anyone know if fuji AF is just as fast as m43 in low light?
X-T1 has the fastest AF to date… So it should be fast in low light as well…
Do you have anything to back that up dear fujiboy?
@ bart
So are you olympusboy than?
More a matter of Fuji’s CSC offerings not exactly having a stellar reputation with regards to AF performance so far, so rather then an obvious fuji fan (see what he has to say a few posts up for a nice example) making a claim, I’d rather want to see some proper reviews and field tests supporting this.
If it does have very good AF, all the better.
It’s continuous ytracking AF is obviously much improved, so AF overall may be in the ballpark now.
And the EVF sounds like it may be a noticable step ahead of others’ in low light, which is a big plus , for MF And AF.
That statement is need to be proven,.
i will understand if the X-T1 more faster than X-E1/2,.but i don’t think faster than M43 body up to date, from both Pany /Oly on a single AF.
The good thing about X-T1 is the ergonomic button and dials, wheels ,how they putted the AF mode S-AF ,C-AF, M-AF, shutter speed and ISO wheel,.it looks in a right way and very easy to navigate instead of got buried in the banks menu,.and a big EVF-plus Lcd,.and has better fresh rate than previous version.
the minor issue might be the max shutter speed its only : 1/4000 SS
its so ironic when the first time the E-M5 came ,.many people had bashing the form and the shape ,.especially the hump,.and now suddenly everybody praising X-T1, and also Sony A7/R,.which is have the similarity in the form
When you read comment, read it all including the qualifications. It has the fastest APSC and 35mm AF. That excludes the m43 and nikon 1 from the argument.
http://www.fujirumors.com/wake-up-its-real-x-t1-announced-live-blogging-press-realease-pre-orders-and-more/
Read note *5
Not in my experience. Low light AF remains Fuji’s first and foremost Achilles’ heel.
I think that Fuji did a Lot right!!!
I like all this mechanical Buttons & switches , it makes Sense.
The Problem of Fuji are the big lenses comparing to Olympus.
That is why I prefer Olympus . All in all it is more harmonius & transportabel . Now I can it Even Take it in my Jackett Pocket , inkl. 14-42mm zoom. How cool is this!?!
That is why People want mirrorless!
Still m43 Fan
This is a nice new camera from Fuji. I’ve been tempted to go back and get another Fuji X camera, especially with the latest firmware updates, the cameras are performing better than ever.. BUT, they do seem like they are missing something.. for me, namely the AF.. it just doesn’t match up to the E-M1 (or a lot of other non-Fuji cameras). And, operation just doesn’t feel quite as smooth and slick as I’d want or it could be.
Now, this X-T1 has got me excited again.. a lot of great options and in a nice new slr-type body design. The question remains, have they done enough with the AF (and other functionality and operational details) to be really fast and accurate and reliable?.. accurate & reliable being more important than fast. If so, it may possibly be enough for me to trade systems again and go back to Fuji.. MAYBE… I really don’t have any complaints with my E-M1 and it works great as it should… not sure it’s worth the effort and extra $$ to reinvest into another system again since there is nothing really lacking from the E-M1 overall. The weakest area, probably the low light and dynamic range.. I have to be honest and say I feel Fuji, with their very excellent APS-C X-TransII sensor produces really nice images that do have a slight advantage in low light and DR, imho. I’ll have to see and think about it.. maybe when enough reviews have confirmed or denounced this X-T1 as being as great as it seemingly appears to be.
But, going back to the X-T1 more specifically..
Nice. I’m very excited and optimistic this will be a top level camera that will push a lot of competitors to do their best to top such a well rounded and capable camera such as the X-T1.
Pretty much know everything there is to know about this camera from all the leaked info and quick previews that have spawned up in the past few hours since it’s official announcement.
I have little doubt about the enhanced performance.. the IQ will definitely be there and it looks to be the smoothest fastest operating X camera to date!
My main focus is seeing whether or not the camera has the AF to truly compete. Fast AND MORE IMPORTANTLY ACCURATE & RELIABLE.
I’d also like to see some other details that may not be known.. get a better view and idea of how the configurable EVF works in practice.. especially when it comes to focus assist.. I admit I am intrigued how they can split the view screen to have a normal view and a focus assist view on the side with focus peaking and/or split image focusing. I imagine you can even more easily confirm and zero in on fine focusing since you have a normal view to see what’s visually in focus as well as the assisted information to the side.. Quite impressive! It ill be interesting to see how well it works in actual use and practice! I would especially be interested to know if it is possible to get a full screen with focus assist, especially if you can get the split image overlay in the center (or wherever your focus point/area) is positioned so it functions much like a classic rangefinder or slr with similar type of focus handling!
Looking forward to more full reviews on this one!
yo dawg, I hear you like dials
http://i.imgur.com/bPlfDuq.jpg
What is OMD like in this fuji??? is the OMD an OMD like too? Because I don’t follow you 43rumors, or should I say olympuswebcommercial!?
IBIS in omd is such overrated. Watch you put your OMD in the thrashcan in two years when IBIS break out of warranty or that your brother who you lend your OMD cleaned the sensor with a socks…
Much ado about nothing. As always the forum self-imploded for nothing. As I mentioned Oly’s engine is so good that I don’t even know why I would need an ISO knob. EV and Aperture I can see in the LCD.
The fact is that I shoot differently from when I had film, and those times won’t come back. The Nikon and Fuji ‘deep retro, or return in time’ operation seems more a seduction targeted either to old geezers, or smart phones owners who never had film cameras.
Oly and Sony will use it only like a surface effect but keep to modern, and tested ergonomics.
So much ado about nothing
GH3 IMO is the most complete mirrorless camera, photos on par with EM1 (with pani stabilized lenses) and video that will put shame to any olympus body. Plus ergonomics on the GH3 are the best…pick one up and tell me its not the most comfortable camera to hold and control, and every lens u pop on the front is balanced beautifully. Not to mention weather sealed…even DXOmark gave the 12-35mm the edge on sharpness over the 12-40mm…in lens stabilization wins again! Not to mention sub $1000 nowadays.
“DXOmark gave the 12-35mm the edge on sharpness over the 12-40mm…”
Simply not true.
You should probably twinkle your toes over to the website and see for yourself…sure the 12-40 beats it in a few things…barely…but sharpness…sorry bucko but pani wins gold in that event.
Simply not true. On the EM1 the overall score is the same. Look at the profiles, wide open the Oly is better, only at 40mm/35mm (I don’t know how the Zuiko fares at 35mm, not tested) the Panasonic is better wide open, else they are close. Most review sites see the Oly ahead. And, is the Pana frost/weather-proof, focuses to 25cm at all distances?
Wow. While I like what I’m seeing on this new Fuji camera, it is definitely a big monster (with lenses) compared to the micro-4/3 system. Check out these photos of the camera & lens combinations we’re looking at:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/real-world-images-of-the-new-fuji-xf-16-55-f-2-8-50-140-f-2-8-and-18-135-lenses
Again, a great system, but it’s quite a bit larger than a typical OM-D plus lens set up.
Those photos of X-T1 in your link are so ugly!
WOW.
Pot, Meet Kettle…
http://photorumors.com/2013/09/10/olympus-m-zuiko-digital-ed-40-150mm-f2-8-pro-lens-coming-in-2014-new-zuiko-lens-roadmap-no-more-four-thirds-products/
And it’s still a 43 sensor…
Not at all if anything the size of the em1 with the new f2.8 Olympus zooms looks dangerously close to the fujis
Fujica alike, not omd alike. The controls are wry different and the evf is better
That sounds like a real fanboy talk.
Like Apple iPhone doesn’t have competition from phones with bigger screeens, right?
Bigger and better sensor, the E-M1 is not even in the same league. 5 Axis IBIS? Fuji has superior OIS. Only price wise Olympus is above and even in Full Frame territory. Funny how Sony got the rest of the industry boned all together with only one camera.
But it’s still hard to accept that fact by M43 fanboys.
Bodies come and go. It’s all about the lenses. What glass does Fuji have?
Awesome! The Fuji looks like a man’s pro camera while the EM1 looks like it belongs in a woman’s handbag, no? If Olympus is still around in a few months they should offer the EM1 in a nice pink.
But the EM1 does have that tasty 5 axis IS in body and some sweet lenses that cost a fortune.
I think Fuji still trumps the EM1 by a mile. But who knows, maybe Olympus will come out with a man’s version of the EM1.
Haha that’s funny because you said brand X is girly. And girls have cooties AMIRITE?
I hope this nonsense is due to the fact that you got up too early this morning. 😉
Obviously I also got up too early, otherwise I would not feed the troll… 😀
Loved Fuji X-T1 at first sight (kinda Contax-like at first glance)… until I realize its EVF looks like an extra piece stuck onto the camera body (similar to how Sony A7 has its EVF). Too bad… If only the EVF housing continues its line down the entire height…
Oly E-M10, on the other hand, actually has a better looking EVF housing than E-M5 and E-M1. Partly because E-M10’s smaller body makes the EVF look not as tiny as on the other 2 OM-D cameras; partly because the built-in flash gives the EVF housing a bit more width and less pointy.
i really don’t get this hate for the competition camera, u haven’t even use it, you judge a camera by specifications, wtf is wrong with u people…and i have to tell you something that u all should consider….You must be all narrow minded touch the screen Iphone freeks self photos in the bathroom generation…try it and than judge it…if u look at fuji comunity than will realize that they just don’t care about om-d e-m1…they r interested in evolution of their brands, the next step….by the way weather sealing is not an exclusive olympus…if you like olympus use olympus and shut up about competition…be a fan of what u believe in
THIS IS A COMMENT ON SONYRUMORS OF A SONY FAN:
widdershins
As a dedicated Sony user (I love my NEX 7) I feel there is some truth to this. Fujifilm just significantly raised the mirrorless game. If Sony doesnt do something Wow Wizzbang with the next top end NEX (errrrr, a7000?…ick, stupid name) then I am probably migrating to the Fuji camp.
-Fuji CONTINUALLY updates their old cameras firmware, adding new functions and making them better
-Fuji has come out with a STRONG lens line with tasty offerings that make me say WOW. Sony lenses are MEH at best. I dont even like AF lenses but the Fujinos are pretty sweet with their aperture rings and all.
-Fuji has nailed the look. I dont see it as Retro, but rather a continuation of the film camera design that was interupted back in the early 80′s as the Camera makers went with the more modern, melted blob look. We have the Canon T90 to thank for that. Fuji is getting back to the basics and making a rather pleasing tool.
-Fuji stock wasnt just downgraded to junk.
Anyway, Fuji is really bringing a lot to the table with the XT-1. I finally see the mirroless camera I envisioned a couple of years ago and hoped and prayed someone had the balls to build it. Just looking at it and the early reviews have me convinced. If the AF power plays out to be as good as Fuji says (I am a bit skeptical) then they have built the prototype that other manufacturers will be struggling to copy in the next couple of years.
Put it this way. I love my NEX 7. The A7 is a nice camera but I just didnt get all “Wow I gotta have this”. The XT1 makes me feel that way.
Pop a Speedbooster on that little thing and BAM!..Im there.