Photoplus Expo in New York
Yep, I can now confirm via multiple trusted sources that Olympus will have one more product announcement in October! And there is definitely a High End Compact Camera. And I mean really High End…not a new XZ camera 🙂 The announcement should take place right before the Photoplus show in New York City. I have no specs yet, but I will get them soon 🙂
There are plenty of competitors in that market:
– The [shoplink 41706 eBay]Fuji X100S (here one Bay)[/shoplink] with the superb hybrid viewfinder and unique sensor.
– The [shoplink 41707 eBay]Ricoh GR (here one Bay)[/shoplink] which is the smallest and also the cheapest
– The [shoplink 41708 eBay]Nikon Coolpix A (here one Bay)[/shoplink] fixed prime lens.
– The [shoplink 41709 eBay]Canon PowerShot G1 X (here one Bay)[/shoplink] fixed zoom lens.
It will be hard for Olympus to make something unique…or not?
Note: The High End fixed lens market is still growing and it makes sense for Olympus to join the battle. As reported via Personal-View in Europe the “More advanced fixed-lens cameras are also doing well. These are cameras with larger image sensors, which registered a sales increase of around 7%. Selling at steadily high prices of around EUR450.“
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I wish that’s a 35mm f1.4 equivalant shoot and go in 4/3 format
35mm f/1.4 but on a FF Olympus camera, like the Sony RX1.
There will be no FF Camera from Olympus. You will have to go elsewhere for that item.
You are so confident of that you’d put your name to it, oh wait…you didn’t.
If all those crying for a FF camera also put the money where their mouth is and bought one… the camera business would have doubled, at the very least. And yet, and yet.
and yet they don’t. And they won’t. Why? because they don’t really care if Olympus makes one. What they really want is the appearance of a great demand for 35mm, so that someone (any company will do) will enter the market. If there really is an increased demand, then competition will increase, and prices might go down. But the camera manufacturers know that there is a market well beyond people who appear in these forums, and for that market, the advantages of 35mm means very little. The few who need the large sensor, which is even less than the ones who want it, have shown that they will pay to get it. There is little incentive for the camera makers to lower the price. Canon and Nikon own the pro (read sports and high fashion) market, so they HADa to cater to those customers. Sony has tried, but their market share hasn’t really made the investment pay off. When you combine the lens needed, and the support that these pros demand, can any of the other makers really afford to fight for a small share?
Bottom line, if there is no apparent increase in demand, the price for a new 35mm will never reach the mythical $1000.00 barrier as the original Rebel did.
Here I can’t see any meaning of FF, that means oly need to developpe an FF sensor and produce it with sony — senseless for enterprise cost. if they make a 17.5 f0.7 on a 4/3 sensor, that will performe 100% like a FF with 35 f1.4, and will promet the capacity of 4/3 sensor.
35mm f1.4 would be great!
I want TG-3 with fast fixed prime lens (eqiv. 35mm) and micro43 sensor.
Waterproof, rugged – for sports, diving, skying – with all PEN’s technology.
With option of televconventers (wide and tele), WiFi, in-build flash and remote control of external flashes, fast AF, optical viewfider like in Fuji X100.
This would be amazing, but highly unlikely. Olympus has a tendency to disappoint in these high-end compact arena. Surely it should be a camera with a four thirds size sensor, but at least mere weather sealing would be incredible to have. I am guessing they could also go for a 35mm f1.4 fixed lens that could compete in size with the other guys’ f2 lenses.
A waterproof, rugged large-sensor compact would indeed fill a unique niche.
I can see Olympus doing this!
Oh i would love that as well->a more compact, and weatherprof camera fix lens mft sensor
+1
this would be an awesome concept. Bright Fixed Prime lens mFT Tough. Perfect travel compact, and really compact … some of the models alluded to above are kind of ‘big’ compacts
Knowing Olympus…This could be an exciting product…but one that is not for everybody.
Could be a digital version of the 35SP. Olympus has all the bits and pieces: the lens (17/1.8 with MF clutch), speedy AF, the viewfinder, the build quality, the stabilization and all. It might be expensive though.
The 35 SP is a magnificent camera, but it is a little bit big. The 35 RD is a better size. Holding my 35 RD next to my Panasonic GF1, they are IDENTICAL in every dimension. I think this is no coincidence.
A 42mm equ f/1 would be a killer street shooter.
no it’s not hard. very compact 35 equivalent with large (1″ up) sensor. and if it is waterproof even better (see comment from “imagine”)
I want a dual focal length lens, which I am not going to get!
“I want a dual focal length lens, which I am not going to get!”
Or tri-/quad-focal-length lens.
I wonder how optical design of such lenses differs from the zooms/whether it is possible to make such lens half the size of the zoom.
A compact 24mm/35mm/50mm/85mm eq lens, with a decent aperture like F2, and not too expensive – could be pretty popular. In the m43, 12mm/17mm/25mm/45mm are all relatively compact and relatively bright. Even if we drop 24mm eq, it is till would be an interesting proposition.
Leica (and Minolta) had a 35mm compact camera with a 40/80 mm f/2.8/5.6 in the late ’80s. It was a 40 mm lens with an integrated 2x tele converter. A more useful 28/80 mm lens would be a lot more difficult to design. In terms of size this was still a small (intbuilt but protruding) lens.
By the way, there were some dual focal length lenses for 35 mm SLRs. Soligor made an 85/135mm f/4 lens. There’s a few of them on Ebay right now. Again, a dual focus design is more easily achieved with a tele than it would be with a WA/T.
Didn’t get to proofread before I posted. Getting coffee was more important. Anybody who finds mistakes can keep them. 😛
I’d like to se a digital version of AF1 Twin. By using a FT-sensor they could probably make it a 28/80 equivalent in stead of 35/70, improve the aperture somewhat and still make is slightly smaller than the original.
A Sony RX 100II competitor with the same sensor but a higher quality lens could be really interesting 🙂
Digital 35RC?
I wish
Dear Olympus, I want free beer, which is in size 1.2L, completely new glass, with 5 axis Stabilizer and grip included!
High end…..? Then i hope there are going to use a APSC/FF sensor or a very very low price, Otherwise its DOA with big competition from Sony, Fuji and Ricoh. But judging by the foolish EM1 its going to be a joke. Oly is killing its self. Nobody exept a few fangirls/boys is waiting to go back in time traveling on a tiny sensor.
RX100 sells super fine and has 1inch sensor. So Shenkie…you are wrong 🙂
you know if you keep saying the same thing over and over again, expecting a different outcome, that’s the definition of insanity. Keep up the good work shemp, wooop-wooop-wooop – – knuk-nuk
FourThirds Baaaad! FullFrame Better! Four legs baaaaaad, two legs better!
Foolish e-m1? Check amazon sales first, who is foolish is you. E-M1 is really nice camera and price makes total sense, e-p5 does feel a bit over the top, but for e-m1, especially kit, good deal.
Trust history and see that the em1 hype will be soon over. A lot of Preoders wil never hit the payment button. People want a big bang for their money. 2200 euro for little sensor and Lego cam is not a big bang.
In a shenkie world, Picasso would have used only a flat brush to paint, everyone would use fool frame cameras, we would all drive SUV’s and shenkie would have a brain.
Thank god we live in reality.
Wonderful! 🙂
“Foolish e-m1? Check amazon sales first, who is foolish is you”
What Amazon sales? It is 7 days since announcement, and it is already #36. Even the ancient 60D is #32 – after 70D release (which is itself still #15 after 71 days in the top 100). No wonder – Olympus could not match 70D for shooting speed with AF or battery life despite having lower resolution sensor AND want more money for that? They definitely should have been under $1K with that camera, or better should have bitten the bullet and order more cores from their processor supplier (Panasonic or Fujitsu) and sprung up for bigger battery to fill that empty grip.
And where are the Nikon Fool Flames?
Troll.
shenkie = a master of bait trolling = a master-baiter
70D sensor performance even worse than EM1, plz check dpreview.
When i think about it Oly already got a point and shoot compact camera: EM1. It has the same size sensor as the RX100 from Sony but worse picture output and 4 times the price.
Empty trolling? RX100/RX100MKII have half the sensor area of any m43 camera…. And its output is certainly not superior to E-M5, GH3, GX7 or E-M1… -.-
But that RX100MKII for 400€ instead the 750€ and I wouldn’t look for an ILC.
Surab Thanks for telling the truth finally. What you are saying smaller sensor equals lesser picture quality.
The truth is that m43 sensors are perfectly matched to m43 lenses. Something called perfect compromise. Something you can’t understand. You are like the frog in the well..
No, the truth is that 1″ sensor is better than his fool frame heavy gear.
The very fact that this shenkie poltroon comes into a forum of something he doesn’t like to try and prove his simplistic idea that full frame is the best for every sort of photography is a cover for a grave cerebral inadequacy.
The guy clearly has a mental illness and I feel sorry for him, that his life is so sad that this is how he gets pleasure.
Shenkie, yeah this is true and everybody knows that, BUT in real world photographs and with the modern sensor tech the difference narows down to certain cases like extreme shallow DOF, extreme low light/high ISO and really high contrast.
The RX100MKII sensor would be sufficient for a lot of people here or in the entry level APS-C market, especially with that glas on it. In daylight situation the difference will not be to extreme (except if one is pixel peeper, but than buy a great scanner and scan amazing pitures, or one is a pro who needs best of best even for large prints) and m43 will certainly have some advantages in high ISO and DR.
The point is: m43 sensor quality is good enough, so that the systems advantages become relevant: less bulk and weight and not too shallow DOF while good light gathering. APS-C does not really offer huge advantages and FF is overpowered, oversized and too heavy for a lot of people’s need.
And I said: If the RX100 was cheaper, I would no be interested in any ILC system. Why it should be cheaper for me to be interested? Because its lens’ range is too small and there is no possibility to change it. Therefore at this price, it would be my only camera, but offers me not enough to be my main camera (at that price).
Troll fail….
Oh, please be quiet. 😐
Some of us, like myself, are buying our first interchangeable lens camera (ILC). I am choosing to go with the new OM-D E-M1, because I want the extra reach that the M.Zuiko 70-300mm lens is going to give me – excellent for traveling.
Also, I am going to buy the 12-40mm and 40-150mm when they are available. When they bring out the other two rumored M.Zuiko PRO lenses I will get those as well. I am going to buy the OM-D E-M1 with the 12-40mm lens in December.
I am not a pixel masturbator, nor do I care about the micro 4/3 sensor being smaller than a 35mm Full Frame sensor. So, for the love of God, please stop with your “The sensor is smaller than FF!” diatribe. It has become tiresome to read here.
if its priced around 450eur…than thats a hotseller!
Wish a bridge camera but weathersealed.
I like the 35sp/DC idea..
A 4/3rds camera with integrated lens makes sense. Alternatively, perhaps an Oly version of the RX100 (which would be totally awesome). They certainly won’t go bigger than 4/3rds, and any smaller than 1″ is getting into ZX territory.
I also hope for a weathersealed camera which gives us the option to get some wide angle or tele with converters (TG-2 or X100(S) like), maybe 35mm with 24mm and 50mm converters?
It should be priced below that GR or at most equal to. Then you would get a more rugged camera instead of the bigger sensor. Fair trade for me! 😀
Actually, I was always kind of disappointed to the XZs and the Pentax MX1 without weather sealing thinking of Oly’s and Pentax’s weather sealing heritage.
For me it must have m43 sensor, IBIS, weather sealed, be priced in three figures. Good to have would be the PDAF sensor to give C-AF, and instead of a fixed focal length be a limited zoom, e.g 12-20 or 12-30.
There is no such thing as a m43 sensor. Only a 43 sensor.
I predict that no matter how good this turns out to be, there will be endless complaints that the video performance isn’t as good as someone else’s.
Good prediction unforetunately.
Already know that going in so will likely stick with my RX100. AF speed is another area where these large sensor compacts are a bit lacking. Hopefully Oly implements on-sensor PDAF to help with AF.
The 5-axis IBIS would at least give it a unique position among it’s competitors.
My desire is a compact large sensor camera, with a bright 50 eq and a good OVf.
But i think Olympus will go to a 35 eq, i hope they use also the Vf1.
Still a nice camera, but in the same league with x100s and almost with Ricoh Gr and Nikon Coolpix A, so strong competitors.
In the 50mm field, there’s only the Dp2x with the semi-bright 2.8, i think it can be a more profitable niche for a new competitor.
Do you know whether it will be a zoom lens or fixed lens?
Will it be something like a 4/3-based RX100 or a competitor for the Fuji X100?
Competetor for fuji x100. LOL foolish thought.
That’s what I’m hoping for. An m43 X100, except with a touch screen and IBIS. It would be a great camera. Though I’d like it to keep Fuji’s auto-ISO implementation.
Let’s see :
I would like something like the GR, weather sealed, 4/3 sensor, 5 axis IBIS, build in zoom 28-280 f1.4-2.0. What? Not possible. Meh. 😀
I’m a little bit worried about that.
If xz-1 and xz-2 are not high end cameras, and these cameras cost over 300 euros, this new product how much will cost? At this stage a buyer could buy a micro 4/3 camera with interchangeable lenses
yes – but a highend, more compact, fixed lens camera with 4/3 sensor – if properly done – could be much more appealing than an epm with kitlens.
my fear is they will make something ok-ish – and go for fuji-pricing, say between epl5 and ep5 – which will be a tough sell.
Please stop trolling.
garbage
What about a “Digital” version of Trip 35?
they’ve done the PEN and OM and the X, so I guess its time for the TRIP
I agree with several readers, it would be awesome if oly came up with a weathersealed, rugged compact with a fast 35mm or 28mm equivalent lens. Ideally it would have an m43 sized sensor and 5 axis IS. Oly has all the pieces, including state of the art fast hybrid AF. They’ve been on a roll lately, so I have high expectations on this high end compact!
no high hopes for the video tho… although starngly Oly do better video in their compact cameras than their flagship cameras (M1, M5, P5)…
Jim, that’s what I was thinking. If you want Oly video, go compact!-) (Crazy stuff.)
My guess is fixed lens 4/3 sensor, at 17mm f2. It would go directly against Ricoh GR and Coolpix A (35mm equivalent, APS-C sensor f2.8). Image stabilisation would be the selling point of Oly. Size would be about the same.
It’ll be fantastic if they can do an enthusiasts wide aperture (starts 1.8) weatherproof compact with 12,35 or 50 mm
Is it bigger than EM1?
I’m not interested unless they put a fast lens on it – faster than F2. I think most will agree with me on that. Besides, a VF is a must for most enthusiasts. Anyway, whatever they make should be smaller then its interchangeable lens equivalent…
i bet they will not put evf but accessory port…
If they want to rock the market the camera must be small, nice to pocket & they need some of the goodness below:
1080 25/30 & 50/60p
Excelent IBIS
A fast zoom (F2) starting at 24mm equiv (24-60mm?) with macro.
HDR
Timelapse
Stacking
and a top good size sensor 😀
Various manufacturers seem to use this format in order to test the waters with innovative features. Surely this camera will have at least one unusual characteristic and knowing Olympus it could be very unusual, perhaps even radical.
How about a square sensor? Foveon-like technology? Medium format? Tilt-shift lens? A true rangefinder?
medium format… nice silicone bro…
yeh pop a 300mm F2.8 equv lens on it, mount on truck and off you go!
Any word of a possible XZ-3 in the works? Thank you.
I want something to replace my Canon G11, with a 4/3 sensor and a nice, fast zoom. I don’t need a huge zoom range but a fixed focal length doesn’t make sense to me. (The whole point is creative control and a fixed length lens takes that away.) And keep it as small or smaller than the G11. Ruggedized & waterproof are must-haves, too. Wifi would be nice. And pizza. It needs a button to automagically send a pizza order via wifi to be delivered to my current location (determined by gps, of course, either in-camera or from my phone. Do like the phone companies and have a pizza chain subsidize the cost, with a 2-year contract. After that, you can root your camera and have it connect to any pizza company you prefer.) And I want it in a choice of colors, including gold….
gold pizza? yikes.
Full frame E20-alike?
I’m tempted by a 3 months old x100s, with second battery, lens hood,Fuji leather pouch, ND filter, 32Gb sd card for 950 euros. Let’s see what Oly can offer.
My guess.
17mm/1.8 fixed
OVF ala Fuji X20. No EVF but simple overlay of AF-point and basic info.
Shape ala 35RC basicly a straigtened PEN with built in OVF and tiny flash above the lens.
Pull lens for manual focus. Notched square lenshood sold seperately.
Does come in 5 colours.
Damn close to what I have been lusting! Only exception being of 19mm lens.
Psyched!
Hopefully it has an OVF 🙂 Something Nikon and Ricoh missed.
Decent EVF would be a much better option compared to a crippled OVF.
The physical size of the compact cam would simply not allow it to have good OVF. I’d rather vote for a decent EVF.
E-7 DLSR size Body using all the 4/3 lens
BUT a FF sensor a product from Sony
Hopefully it will have a m4/3 sensor, with an EVF at least the quality of the OMD, with a bright zoom 14-100, of course 5 axes IBIS and a tilting screen 🙂
I nearly forgot the essential part: A Rangefinderstyle EVF!
If they do indeed release a fixed prime camera then It needs to be full frame. Otherwise you would just buy a Pen and 20mm lens.
on the other hand a sony rx1 is about the same size as a gf1 with the 20/1.8 so imagine a 43 sensor in a fixed lens camera how tiny that camera could be!
Probably about the size of the EPM2 with the 20mm… maybe a tad smaller but hardly any…
I feel they need a smaller than 43 sensor or they wont be able to bring anything diffrent to the mix – i.e. smaller sensor might give better lens ability – 24-60equ F2… not gonna get that on 43 sensor and poketable.
Alas-c or ff ok m43 what a joke
Are you saying this while you stroke something? ROTFLMAO
25mm 1.8 lens, please.
Ff cuz 1.8 m43 is line f4 ff or less
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Only for DoF.
“Ff cuz 1.8 m43 is line f4 ff or less”
Is that in code?
What can do fixed lens camera with 43 sensor against the fujix100s or even x100 ,Ricoh nikon a canon will release soon. ….. M43 just for the Barbie doll lens …but fixed impossible in that lame sensor
Wow, m43 is really worrying the APS-C and FF crowd!
Full frame is bad is better have small sensors with low light performance dof. Etc. is way it is
Skool is ur frend. 😐
I think it would have to be a redesigned 17mm lens. I dont know how these things work, but to get the smaller size, removing the mount and pushing the lens back we would need a new lens design.
Like others here I hope for a wide fast lens. 28mm f2 or faster, 35mm f2 or faster. Compact body size, simple control layout and a degree of weathersealing (cant be too hard considering it is a fixed lens).
Sounds good.
S10… Em5 sensor, 28-300 zoom built in EVF.. also TG3 and more compacts and a small other surprise….
I know it’s just a dream, but a TG-3 and XZ-3 with 43 sensor with a 4x zoom f2.8-4 lens would be great
XZ3 or S10 is basically going to be the same thing. 5 axis and all the toys of the EM5 just smaller and built in fast zoom…
New eos at least aps-c
To satisfy FF, SHENKIE, etc, it needs to be a pocket sized cam with a 6×6 MEDIUM FORMAT sensor… 🙂
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If it is a fixed lens camera, Oly has more freedom wrt sensor size because there is no commitment to deliver exchangeable lenses. But Oly is not as experienced wrt miniaturization as Sony, and it is probably more cost-effective to use a m43 sensor.
I hope it is not another fixed FL fixed lens camera of extremely limited usefulness with extremely high competition (starting from every smartphone). Otherwise Oly will lose even more money. But something like RX100 sensor but with decent superzoom lens (20-200 or 22-220 eq f/2-f/4 for example, with matching macro, tele and WA converters), priced under $1K, would take the market by the storm.
Big sensor, 35mm eq FL TOUGH cam with good glass please.
I use a Nikon J1 as a compact Compact camera, mostly for lowerprofil snapshot situations for both stills adn videos. Its a great addition to my OMD for adding even more candid moments more easy then the OMD would. Lens of choice here is the pancake 10mm.
I wish they would use either a APS or even 4/3 sensor and as long as you can shoot RAW in 4/3 image ratio
One of the thing Oly should do for this compact is offer weather sealing which would set them apart in this category and a 1.8 or 2/40mm ( in 35mm equivalent) with a built in EVF would be a killer camera for street photography
please no more 28mm equivalents
Harold
Medium format is better, screw that tiny 35mm sensor! And yes dear trolls, it is 35mm not FF…
FF is better than medium format – you save so much in lens weight, lugg around that old MF dino, no thank you! – you don’t have to stop down so much to get usable DOF and in low light you can actualy get some DOF… and the quality is near as damit as good as MF… can’t think of any other system that would offer these qualitys if put up against FF… ?
Screw MF, won’t someone produce a 10×8 sensor for all those wooden boxes lying around in attics, then we will see what real IQ is about.
+1 for 10×8 sensor!
What a lot of bollox. 135 is WAY cheaper than 645, while M43 is more or less on par with 135. Sizewise? Same story, look at that huge E-M1 with zoom.
Yes, a fixed lens with f/1.2-1.8 aperture, 5-axis and E-M5/M1 build would be very tempting…
Even with that joke of a sensor ?
I know a whole stop worse than 5DIII terible – thank god it can take F2 zooms to close the gap… pitty canon has no F2 zooms, then the extra size might add somthing tangable…
How many stops worse? I don’t know what a troll is but I know a liar when I see one.
I know it wont happen but my wish is to see the first Olympus ever with a leaf shutter lens.
They just need to copy the Ricoh GR, specially for the snap focus feature, and then add the possibility to insert the electronic viewfinder.
i want Olympus to make “Olympus Cinema camera” 🙂
I just want Olympus to add some usfull video frame rates – and if you wanna push the boat out how about quality modes!
24p, 25p, 30p, 50p, 60p
50i, 60i.
120p at 1280×720 ? (if a HD hero can)
240p at 640×480 ? be nice…
and have 20mb,30mb,40mb data rate settings.
If the M1 had these video modes I feel it would be game over for alot of other cameras… as it is this M1 will always feel awkwardly lacking, or forcing to perchace another camera just for video, which is not that practical!
This goes for pro as well as enthusiast, the less kit to do the more stuff the better!
i hope olympus update the firmware of EM5 and EM1 for a better video.
Will this be the rumored E-M5 successor?
http://www.43rumors.com/ft3-e-m5-successor-to-come-in-september/
Olympus is dead 🙂
Nex ff kill it
And fuji 🙂
Eos m
Just Pentax q and nikon 1 more mediocre
lol!
You sure nikon 1 is not better (better colors, working caf) ?
Bye bye m43 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/fuji-x-e2-and-sony-nex-9-full-frame-to-be-announced-around-october-20/#respond
Legacy form factor << convenience of MFT form factor.
Still powerful tools though (as I'm eagerly awaiting Sony announcement, albeit for niche, legacy alternative to MFT).
So we finally say goodbye to you?
A great day for the forum and all its users!
With a rumored price of $3000,the most likely things to die is Sony’s dreams.
The Sony Nex FF will have much the same advantages and disadvantages as today’s FF DSLR’s .A NEX FF body will no doubt be significant smaller and lighter than typical FF DSLR models. However away from a small selection of moderately fast primes the lenses will remain far larger and heavier than mFT. I would be very interested in the NEX FF if the hints about sensor based AF come to pass; I have after initial dislike came to very much appreciate the benefits of an EVF.
I use both FF D800 and mFT. GH3/E-M5 though the Mft will be going soon .As I am hoping to move on to the E-M1 and GX7. The bottom line is that when I am going out with the sole intention of taking photographs the D800 kit has very clear advantages .However when photography is a secondary part of the activity, taking part in sport, socialising, on holiday with my wife and family etc. mFT delivers excellent results in the majority of situations, for a fraction the weight. Rather than FF and mFT being bitter rivals I think they are almost perfectly matched .A set up of a mix of mFT with a mix of FF gear covers all the bases.
There are for sure some over the top fan posts here with some rather daft conclusions don’t get me started on equivalence 🙂 . But your constant attack on everything to do with mFT is either a pretty pathetic attempt at affirming your choice or more likely a rather sick joke designed to wind folk up for your amusement. The facts are that unless you are shooting in a specific niche there are no bad interchangeable cameras you can get wonderful images from any of them. For some scenarios some are better than others but sadly there are no perfect cameras .
Olympus and high-end compact?…
My bet: Sony RX100mk2 but with the handling and JPEG engine of the Olympus.
Despite RX100’s much better handling compared to the NEX, a number of users still dislike the P&S-inspired interface.
I am tempted by MFT (specifically Olympus), but before committing would like to know about real-world experience with higher ISO values. If you own a Olympus E-P5, E-PL5, E-PM2, E-M5, what would be the highest ISO value in bad light that you would feel comfortable with if you wanted to print up to DIN A3 (approx. 12×17″)? Thank you in advance for any help…
Do t buy m43 you will need very good light to take barlely decent photos about high iso. 1600 is to much ….3600 extremely noisy you will have to spend hours in post proses …..this cameras are for asian girls take pictures of food upload in Facebook and Instagram is a waste of money
Could you PLEASE at least learn English and check your spelling before posting your bull5hit??? :/
@Sigma, Fullframe is merely a half smart pre-pubescent child seeking attention from the big people. Ignore her!
Ok I will
Skool is ur frend. 😐
Mac sauce you are w@nker
M43 good for asian girls? ….lol
It’s official, you’re an IDIOT!
you may have to visit some of this trusted reviewer under,.and also you may chat or ask a question concerning the quality print,.i give you the link;
Ming thein
http://blog.mingthein.com/2013/09/11/the-2013-olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-2/
Robin Wong;
http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2013/09/olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-introduction.html
Steve huff;
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/09/12/amazing-photos-with-the-new-olympus-om-d-e-m1-by-edmond-terakoplan/
if I would have to say , my OM-D E-M5, E-PL5, E-P5 served me well , better than my Fuji X-E1, with its XF system,.I know, between Fuji and Olympus there’s one stop different in high ISO, but in practical Olympus has always give me a better result when i do street photography,.
For me, the E-M5 ,E-P5, E-PL5, at ISO 3200 ,.not ISO 3600 like the Idiot ” FOOL [F] LAME said ; is very usable,.even at ISO 6400 in B&W,.its OK,.but mostly i Only need ISO1600 and don’t need to go further,.,.why?
The combination ,of 5-AXIS IBIS, of olympus body [E-M5,&E-P5], exclusively very Sharp lenses at wide open, plus the advantage of wider DoF, it like a Trump card killer for this system,.
not ,mentioned ,.M43 is the ONLY SYSTEM who has THE TrInity, Glass .of F.95 aperture,.17mm 25,mm 42mm,.you may ask MR .REEEE for this information , Thanks to VC
And I proud to inform you that M43 has the best line up glass and some of them is among THE SHARPEST lens ,.like 1.8/75mm,.2.8/60mm macro, and several superb and very excellent glass,.and they are extremely sharp wide open,.12mm, 25mm 45mm.,.i know what i’m saying when i say very sharp ; coz i used to have D300, D700 and 24-70mm , 1.8/35mm DX, Zeiss 1.4/50mm ,1.4/85mm and F2/100m macro planar.,, I don’t have the 70-200 but i tried many times before from my friends,.Plus Fuji with their XF 1.4/35mm , F2.5/60mm ,F2/18mm and 18-55mm /F2.8-4.
Honestly, I have the 1.4/25 PL D 43 version,.and i have never seen this sharp and beautiful rendering of 50mm equivalens from other lens,.like my Zeiss 50mm , or Nikon 1.8/35mm Dx ,.the closest one is maybe Fuji 1.4/35mm,.and its sibling The 1.4/25mm PL DG M43 version.
when i talking about Olympus Glass i.e the !.8/75mm,.in term of sharpness,.its the sharpest lens i ever used,, its really outstanding , its like not from this earth,.better than Zeiss macro planar f2/100mm on DX body.
with the upcoming of the new Camera, E-M1 [better AF-S and perfecting C-AF/ AF tracking] and new zoom 12-40,..40-150 , also primes 150mm from panasonic,.i can see this system is really promising but also threatening other camera system .
One huge strength is the ability to practically mount any lens onto it. You may use any lens as long as you have the adapter.
but,.you better find out yourself .
I believe the best way forward for Oly is making the best out of m43. Going FF is expensive and risky. One thing would be an Oly version of Sony Nex FF, but I do not think the relation between the companies is that close – yet.
Instead a m43 compact with 24-100/2-3,5 (slow lens but small and high IQ) would be be very close to perfect with Oly 5 axis IS and Oly responsiveness.
A compact with 17.5/1.4 lens would sell well too – but not to me.
Hey admin, don´t hold your panasonic news. Andrew over eoshd says you know something 😉
yes, why wait 2-3 weeks for rumors.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11189/panasonic-consumer-market-will-lead-4k
“I have been given some exciting information about the future of the GH-line. But I can’t say anything about it yet. Stay tuned to 43rumors in 2-3 weeks time.”
120p 4K video for the next GH3 – yes please… not that i could view it but nice to have the headroom to work with… crop pan and zoom you video in post, with no quality loss – nice!
Makes me think Olys lack on video was a pre discussed move – oly go for stills – panasonic hit the video and nither of them try to upset the others key area? (not that the GH3 is shabby for stills)!
It is shabby for stills
The next GH line must have better or same EVF resolution than VF4 from olympus,.and please imply their IBIS into body,.eventhough is not as good as E-M1,.but its worth it,.. i like the Form factor and button /user interface of GH3,.so keep it up,.
What? A decent camera for a change?
Yes but it will be the size of a Canon 6D and 100 EUR dearer.
I know it’s fun to speculate about possible new toys… 🙂
But can someone exlpain what the advantage to this would be over getting a GFx or a PMx with a 14mm f2.5, or the 20mm f1.7??
It’s pretty hard to get any smaller than that combo, even if it was a fixed lens. Seems to me you’re giving up the option to switch lenses for no advantage.
It is certainly possible to get smaller with fixed lense. Part of the lense can go into the body, not very plausible with interchangable mount.
Plus, fixed lense camera has one advantage over its interchangable conterpart: the leaf shutter that is virtually silent
FT5:
NO EVF
NO Panorama stiching
NO App.
NO 24mm -120
NO …
If olympus can comes up with Fixed Zoom lens of F1.8-2.5/12-70mm [equivalent of 24-140mm] with 43 sensor and 5-AXIS IBIS , with ZD glass plus at least built in VF2 ,.that would be A KILLER COMPACT CAMERA,.
At that point, you might as well buy an OM-D and 12-40….cause it would be just about as big and expensive.
I want a reasonable small camera with a decent zoom range (important to be wide angle) and an inbuilt EVF. No need for the sensor to be super big but bigger than the XZ-1 would be needed!
If it has a global shutter, they’ll have a new customer.
I’m not sure it’s possible, but what I’d like to see is something the size of a Ricoh GR with a bit of zoom, 14-28 or something. A step zoom, 14, 17, 20, 25 would be awesome. 4/3s sensor. Thinner is better. The lens doesn’t need to be super fast.
Is it the FZ1??
I have a feeling you know @Admin… 😛
24-112 (equal35) f1.4-f1.8 with mft sensor
I’ve read a lot of suggestions so far and heres my take. If Olympus is gonna build us a camera based on a 43 sensor with a fast zoom lens then people may as well just buy m43 mirrorless and gain access to the interchangeable lens collection, cause it’ll be almost as large anyway.
I think what makes sense is a 1inch sensor xz3 with a fast zoom lens and heaps of controls and extra gimmicks or a large sensored fixed focal length 28mm, 35mm or 40mm equivalent fast lens.
Let us be realistic here, Olympus releasing compact camera with a larger sensor than their flagship em-1?
I personally cannot see that happening.
Apsc? Yeah right, it’ll be 43 sized or smaller with a fast lens.
I would love to see an f1.4 given that the apsc rivals are using lenses ranging from f2-f2.8, Olympus can try and sway the crowds from the hole their sensor is larger than ours crap. I seriously doubt Olympus will give us even fasyer than f2,
Possibly f1.8 but I’m doubtful.
An exclent idea someone raised that would be unique on the market is a bright lens larger sensor tough camera. Now that’s
sure to stand out!
This I’d definitely buy because it’ll compliment any other camera I carry or can at times suffice on it’s own.
My vote is a fixed focal 35mm equivalent f1.4 tough camera. I think there may be technical challenges for Olympus to fit that lens in there while maintaining a relatively small form factor and keeping it reinforced and rugged.
It will be fail if is not aps-c or ff …..cuz everyone know m43 is a joke
The killer camera would be:
*fixed 50mm equivalent f1.4 (no smaller than 1.8!!)
*current sensor of course
*5 axis ibis
how about something like OLYMPUS XA (fixed, fast, prime lens compact) or CONTAX T3 (titanium)
I need Oly/Panasonic LF1-sized camera with MFT sensor and lens around 20/1.7
This camera is possible physically, I guess.
Nikon Coolpix A is too expensive and big, Ricoh GR is to wide and unusual (for me).
But if them made with 3x zoom and f/1.8 for wide – they will be winner.