The great E-M1 hands-on by TheCameraStoreTV team!
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For a short moment Ming Thein created some buzz by writing: “I’ve been assured this isn’t dead, and an E-7 is in the works“. But after checking with journalists and Olympus insiders I can now confirm with a 100% certainty that today’s launch of the new Olympus E-M1 marks the end of the Four Thirds line. DC.watch unveiled that Olympus did indeed create an E-7 prototype but then decided that the E-m1 was good enough and the E-7 no more needed. They also write that Olympus officially said that Micro Four Thirds and Four Thirds now merged into one system. This means:
1) There will be no new Four Thirds camera or lens anymore. The [shoplink 17163]Olympus E-5[/shoplink] was the last FT product ever launched by Olympus
2) FT Lenses and the [shoplink 17163]Olympus E-5[/shoplink] will remain into production until demand drops.
It’s a somewhat sad day knowing that Four Thirds died. But this is it. The E-M1 sets a new future for Olympus. Only Time will tell if that is the right path for Olympus!
Preorders in US and Europe (Click on the store name to read price and specs):
Dedicated page at Amazon.
Olympus E-M1 body at Amazon, Adorama and BHphoto, Amazon DE (via DL), WexUK, Topshot Finland, Namencolor Spain, CameraWorldUK.
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO Lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, AmazonDE (viaDL).
Olympus E-M1 with 12-40mm Lens kit at Amazon DE (via DL), WexUK and CameraWorldUK.
Olympus E-M1 with 12-50mm Lens kit at Amazon DE (via DL), WexUK, CameraWorldUK.
Olympus EP-13 Eyecup for E-M1 at Adorama and BHphoto.
Olympus HLD-7 Battery Grip for E-M1 at Amazon, Adorama and BHphoto.
Olympus LC-62D Metal Front Lens Cap for 12-40mm at Adorama and BHphoto.
Olympus LH-66 Lens Hood for 12-40mm at Adorama and BHphoto.
131 Responses
I’m not sure to which Four-Thirds user the E-M1 is targeted.
The E-4×0, E-5×0, E-6×0 wouldn’t spend US$1399.99 on a camera body and the E-M1 is too small and light for those who are accustomed to good balance between E-1, E-3, E-30, or E-5 and Four-Thirds lenses.
It has very good specifications, but it’s just too small.
Then give up.
Hooray! Fantastic to hear a happy ending story.
Olympus has given as great partying gift to their 43 users. And it can now concentrate on M43.
Some people will never be happy.. 🙂
but how can you tell that by looking at the pictures without actually holding it in hands? or did you already tested it? you could also use the battery grip to increase the size.
I would have bought an E-5 if only it had been a bit smaller. I found the E-620 to be the perfect size for my needs. Since there was never an E-620 replacement, the E-M1 is the camera I want, not only because I have 4/3 lenses, but also because of the E-M1’s ergonomics.
Nearly identical size and weight to the 620! Shame they gave up on lighted buttons
Buy a grip. Be happy.
If the other future MFT cameras have the same improved PDAF – who cares about future FT cams?
Lets see what happenes. I am sure there will be cheaper models with similar capablities in the future.
I don’t want that you represent E-30/E-3/E-5 users unless you are a member of us. For me, the size of EM1 is my long dreamed size, E-5/E-3 are just too big and too heavy.
Meanwhile, there are some of us who think Olympus’ greatest mistake was not to make an even bigger body with the battery/portrait grip built-in.
I’ve got an E520 and an E420… guess what I am doing…
I had two E-520s until last week. Guess what I did? I sold off my 12-60, 150 and 55-200. I congratulate Olympus on their new flagship. I can’t help but be a bit underwhelmed after waiting 3 years. I’m actually camera free and plan to be for a few months. Waiting to decide on a GX7 or see what the next generation of Fuji(X-E2) brings. I’m an old man…I’m tired…I’m bitter…and meanwhile I’m complaining about first world problems. Back to reality!
Here’s what I’m waiting for. Give me a camera phone with a grid array of 3×3 or 4×4 1 inch sensors and small/quality 2.4 lenses. Give me the speed of something like a Nikon 1 with 30/60 frames per second. Give me multiple 64 bit Arm processors on an efficient 14nm process that can stitch all of the pictures together faster than I can say, “WOW!” I think this is where Lyotro should have been headed and maybe where a computer maker will get to first before the camera makers. I’m ready for this to happen already. Let someone buy the name Kodak again and make it a new day in imaging!
You don’t know when you are well off.
Let me tell you Olympus are pampering you like whiny spoilt children. Guess what they did for OM users with $K in glass? Told them to buy an E1 and lenses to go with it.
Welcome to the future.
Those individuals with quality OM 100/2 and 90/2 are probably getting the last laugh selling them for outrageous prices on Ebay.
I didn’t sell my 90mm f2 😉
Would you take $3 for it? Just kidding…
Good riddance.
A long due severance for those of the 4/3 kindergarten. Now let’s prepare them a table for children, although they might be in their Eighties 🙂
You can rest assured that probably around 95% of your potential addressees already have moved on to camera systems which offer more than either FT or MFT ever did, or will do in the foreseeable future, for that matter, so you won’t reach them in an FT/MFT forum anymore.
That said, I’m probably supposed to belong to the remaining 5% myself, but I never expected the production of FT DSLRs to be continued beyond what now comes out as the E-M1.
Then again, if PDAF with FT lenses really is not better than what dpreview reports, which only amounts to what Canon’s EOS 70D can do in live view, which itself is said to be five times slower than the E-M5 with contrast AF, I might actually rethink the purchase of the E-M1 that seemed a no-brainer for me until the final facts are on the table.
You might want to read the review of AF with 43 lens here as his take on it seems to be different. It is also a more in depth review:
http://blog.mingthein.com/2013/09/10/olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-1/
Ming is paid by Olympus, he doesn’t “review” anything. The article is an advertisement, although an informative one.
Taran you might to read this on his review again:
“Perhaps the whole review is best summed up as this: you’ll know that I simply don’t have the time to review things that aren’t interesting or relevant for my personal or commercial work; however, on the basis of my evaluation over the last week, I’ve ordered a pair of E-M1s – one for set up for stills, and one for video work. MT”
Taran are you accusing him of not reviewing the camera as that could be regarded as slander?
Also Taran he also said this in reply to someone:
“Haha – simple answer – most good photographers don’t have time to review cameras…or, the opportunity cost for us is too high. Reviews are unpaid and eat into client-billable time…”
He made this comment as someone said it would be good if more camera brands got pro photographers to review cameras like he was asked and pointing out the review was unpaid work.
Again are you accusing him of lying?
So far, I found three reports saying E-M1 PDAF was equal or better than E-3/5 PDAF, but all three came from people known to be both biased towards Olympus and closely related to Olympus: Ming Thein, Robin Wong and Reinhard Wagner. The only independent report so far is the one from dpreview, and it’s rather negative. Oh well, sooner or later we’ll get more of those independent reports, and if I get nervous before we do, I’ll find one of the rare Olympus retailers and try things for myself.
look yourself
youtube Olympus EM1
http://youtu.be/Ie89vKx6OjI
http://youtu.be/BkUuG2jM9nw
http://youtu.be/SEBz5h_1cHc
I’ll be… Remember you from a flickr site. I guess that old adage is true. The more things change, the more they stay the same. You’re still an as—-e.
Totally agree with bousozoku.
There will never be same specificatios lense as Superhigh grade ones for m4/3. That was the only thing that could boast close to ‘professional’ standards th camera. You can’t have enough light going through those small holes to provide f2 levels zooms. Certainly not for the money a professional would be likely to spend for such a small plastic-like optics with digital controlled zooming. If I need primes, there is plenty around. Legacy lences are awesome and cheaper. EM1 will remein just the spare or second camera of a professional. With much regret, as it could be much better. I can only hope fo rthe future.
What a stupid comment…
You can of course design a f2 zoom. At least like a 43 with integrated adapter.
They could design a f/2.0 zoom but they won’t. They don’t want large lenses again.
The Panasonic 35-100mm f/2.8 has a 58mm filter size compared to the Olympus ZD 35-100mm f/2.0 lens’ 77mm filter size. Even the Panasonic 45-200mm f/4.0-5.6 lens has a 67mm filter size, equal to the ZD 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5.
4/3 died in 2009.
4/3 died in 2009 and m43 will die 2017.
another expensive small sensor camera ony a few fanboys will buy.
not enough to make olympus camera division really profitable.
panasonic already seeks ways out of the camera businees and oly shareholder will force them too at some point.
m43 is a dead end just as 4/3 was.
mark my words… im in th biz for 39 years.
That’s our new oracle. Thanks for sharing your views.
Sincerely.
In the long run we are all dead… In the meantime I’m enjoying all my m4/3 gear to take som photos. At least it has the size so that I care to carry it with me at all times.
That Keynes’s quote…
Those 39 years don’t seem to have taught you a lot though. For a start you should have been ware the amount of times Nikon have almost gone under. That Minolta went from hero to zero very quickly. Even Canon could fail by 2017. Things can change within the industry very quickly. For Minolta it only took 6 months for the rot to set in and then it snowballed from there.
APS-C is under attack from FF. M43 still has a size advantage though and unless Canon and Nikon get off their backsides and start coming up with some innovation again that size difference will remain. There is no logical reason why FF cannot be a lot smaller than it is now body wise but they just don’t seem to want to do that. They can’t be bothered.
Having worked 33 years within the industry, in photographic retail, management, distribution and professional photographer I would not be naive enough to say M43 will be dead by 2017. Anything can change to any of the camera brands by then.
That should not have been an Anonymous post. Just noticed Name box had gone blank for some reason.
Well, than I am glad that I just preordered the E-M1 kit before it is going to die… 😉
It could possible that Olympus some day will sell the camera department to Sony… I don’t hope so, but I think that really can be.
maybe not 39 years more
Quick summary of the video:
– Impressive overall feel and look
– Physically bigger than the EM5, but mainly due to the larger grip (which feels great)
– Lot better placement and spacing of buttons, dial (than the EM5)
– Manual control dial has a handy locking system
– 2 function button on the front (easy to distinguish by the feel)
– 2 function buttons on top
– Nice layout, nothing is cramped, everything is easy to see/get to
– New EVF is sharp, clear and large with nice refresh rate, beautiful magnification
– Viewfinder and screen works well together
– Weather sealing: full ruggedized ealing, with added cold/freeze resistance
– Brand new sensor, no AA filter
– Nice and quick AF, 80 Contrast detect points, very sharp
– Phase detect: with 4/3rds lenses
– from ISO 3200 some noise appears, but still improved compared to EM5, by at least a good stop better
– ISO 200 nice sharp, good detail photo (75 mm/1.8)
– stabilizer: impressive, very steady. It will auto detect shooting modes (steady, moving object)
– Multiple exposure, time-lapse, wireless flash, Wifi features, etc.
– 10 fps shooting, 6 fps with continuous AF
– AF test in a skate park… very quick, good job in following subject. If subject moves side-to-side, it does have the tendency to go off a little bit, but if moving back-forward, it does a good job. “It does work OK.”
– With Pana 30-100/2.8 continuous AF works great from a distance. Not so good with wide-angles up close. “Not bad, but it is just not great.”
– Video is a bit of a let down. Does scans really good. Rolling shutter is very well controlled. But you are only getting 30 fps, 1080. No 24p. No slow-mo.
“For really high cinematic work the GH3 is still the king of all cameras.”
– Focus peaking seems to only work if you have electrical connection (will not work with Metabones adapter).
– Final thoughts: everything about the EM5 is here or even better. You are going to love the camera. Really good feel and design. A joy to use. Comfortable. Natural to use. Image quality is sharper. Low light performance is better. Focusing is improved. Nothing radical, just an evolution of an already fantastic camera. HDR mode, art filters. PC sync port.
– Olympus 4/3rds users now also have an upgrade path.
“Olympus 4/3rds users now also have an upgrade path”
If what dpreview reports is correct, not if they need a fast PDAF, i.e. one that’s not significantly slower than what they’re used to get from their E-3/30/5.
if dpreview is right, then it’s not good that Olympus doesn’t will produce an E-7.
If the is right Olympus representative say E-M1 is “good enough” for use FT user, is this an wrong talk, or he hope we run and buy MFT Pro lens. 😛
“- Focus peaking seems to only work if you have electrical connection”
From other reports, this is not true. I will test this as soon as I get my E-M1.
@Andrew,
– Focus peaking seems to only work if you have electrical connection (will not work with Metabones adapter).
Chris is wrong about this and so was Robin Wong when he reviewed the ep-5. Robin corrected himself letter when he found out focus peaking does works with all manual focus lenses.
Revolution means end of a system and birth of another one 😉
Some will embrace the new, others will flee abroad…
well anonymous… as i said im in the business for 39 years and i learned to predict trends.
my business depends on it.
m43 is in grave danger.
sure there is a loyal and very vocal fan/userbase.
but it´s not big enough to make oly and panasonics camera divisons real money maker.
m43 is under attack from other system cameras (most use APS-C sensors) and even smartphones.
we are speaking about the mass market here.. not a few enthusiasts.
m43 will always have the stigma of a smaller sensor.
you can produce excellent products and miss the market completely… i have seen it again and again.
so yes.. mark my words.
And in what biz are you exactly? Cause if you’re fliping burgers all day, you may not be in the right biz 😉
Did you predict subprime crisis too? 🙂
I’m not in any biz at all, and i predict in 2017 DSLR will be mirrorless. Ha! Mark my words and rendez-vous in 2017 😉
+100 spot on!
Yes, they will all be mirrorless, *BUT* there won’t be reductions in body size. Canon and Nikon owners will just buy their new pro body without a mirror and everything else will be the same – there won’t be new mounts and adapters. It’s going to be a simple and natural evolution without screwing over their customers.
That is how I see it. When EVF and AF tech are truly up to scratch { an EVF is an easy replacement for the tiny OVF in models like the Olympus E-620, not so much for large bright FF OVF} .Though they will never be a small as mFT lenses there are no shortage of small[ish} fast primes from the big DSLR makers such as the 85mm F1.8g from Nikon it weighs in at 350g cost £360 and delivers excellent results. Size reduction is not the only advantage of mirrorless .
Mr. Lars, if I was trying to imvest mony I would have bought diamonds. This is just gear, that may serve for our job or hobby.
I can’t tell how the market will be in 2017: I guess smartphones will rule the street photography and working as a photographer will be harder.
There will be new and better gear and I hope I will use it, be it m43 system, FF or MF or whatever.
M43 is dying? Breaking news: we are all dying. 😉
Ouch, bad connection and some letters did not appeared while typing. Sorry for the grammar mistakes.
Exactly. Smartphones are going to kill m4/3, just like they killed compact cameras.
And they may kill FF too if we follow your logic. Or maybe those “google glasses” will kill everything.
Maybe we shouldn’t buy anything just in case something new comes to kill everything in the next 10 years?
(I’m out looking for a cave)
Erm, no. CSCs were small and got annihilated by smartphones because they were small. m4/3 is also small (see the pattern?) and smartphones are getting better and having larger and larger sensors, usable at ISO 3200 (which 4/3 was never capable of!) and even having clip-on lenses. Add to that more processing power, which will result in a lot more control and DOF simulation to an extent, and guess what happens.
Even now, smartphones are good enough for most people. In half a decade, they’ll be good enough for m4/3 shooters, with the added benefits of not having to carry extra equipment with you.
On the other hand, smartphones will never displace large camera bodies with optically uncompromised lenses.
just curious,did you post the same comment under the name Henry M. Hertz at Dpreview?
Olympus are making a very, very big mistake. Is it a big problem to make a E-550 or E-650? Or E-50/E-7? Surely not. People in general do not take mirrorless seriously – as an outside appearance and handling. Is it accidental that EM-1 is DSLR-like? Is it accidental that Panasonic are making DSLR-like bodies? Not at all.
Let’s hope Olympus will change their minds and relaunch the E series.
I really don’t care if people take mirrorless seriously. I do.
Amen !
perhaps what we really need is a m4/3 camera the size of em1 but with a higher shoulder and looks like an e-5.. and call it e-7
i still use my e510 for my paid works.. i cant afford em1 yet right now.. but even if i could afford it.. i still put off by its too retro looks. i prefer the looks of g6 and gh3 but then i cant use my 4/3 lens with it.
i own a camera store in berlin (a family company since 1948) and i was a staff photographer for SPIEGEL magazine for 12 years and various other magazines after that.
mirrorless is the furure at some point.. but mirrorless does not mean small sensor m43 cameras. 😉
My crystal ball has superior expertise.
Well Lars if you have been in photographic retail that long you should know better. Yes FF mirror less could be big but not if Canon can’t be bothered to develop it and there is no sign of it yet.
That should not have been an Anonymous post. Just noticed Name box had gone blank for some reason.
Canon have fell behind the cutting edge in both sensor and tech in recent years Sony are rumored to have a FF mirroless camera by the end of this year.Once EVF and AF is on par with DSLR it will not be hard to produce a FF mirrorless.
Though Canon’s first mirroless is not exactly inspiring, Nikon played with the small sensor 1 system though to be fair at least it has excellent response times and AF maybe the best in any mirrorless body so far.
The truth that many here simply do not grasp is that Nikon and Canon are selling DSLR numbers far in excess of any mirrorless.The first 6 months of 2013 show that 250 million DSLR { all makers} have been shipped compared to 43 million mirroless { all makers}whatever the hype here the fact is that 84% of interchangeable lens cameras are DSLR , lets say that mFT makes up half the mirrorless market so that means roughly 8% of cameras shipping are mFT so Canon and Nikon are not “yet” in any desperate situation to bring mirrorless high grade products.
data set from CIPA available here
http://www.cipa.jp/english/data/pdf/d-201306_e.pdf
Even in Japan 9 of the top 10 selling models are DSLR with only 2 mFT models in the top 20. Things in mFT are not as rosy as some would have you believe. I don’t care if mFT dominates the market or not , as long as the companies involved continue to make such excellent products and hopefully make a few bob so they can keep on doing so.
It’s a common thing that people who has been in the business for a long time and are getting old, start to yearn for times past and don’t understand the future… (I’m getting okd myself 😉 )
I hope you took the right path in your biz and you’re now selling smartphones too…
If sensors are getting better, why would you need a bigger sensor if you can get the same image with the small one, that also comes in a lighter body and with smaller and lighter lenses?
At some point, even sensor size becomes irrelevant. Replace with multiple cheaper 1 inch sensors in a grid array(3×3,4×4 sensors) coupled with cheap/adequate f2/f2.4 lenses and “stitch/correct” them together with the processors. Software is taking over imaging. Multiple average sensors and tiny lenses together will make any camera larger than a smartphone seem so antiquated…less than 4-6 years away. My body is ready…and so is my back.
This will be Olympus,s third lens mount, OM, 4/3, Micro4/3. I understand why they have done it, but I think a lot of people using 4/3 SLRs will jump brands rather than pay £1,399 body only for the E-M1. The second hand market will see a flood of 4/3 body’s and lenses going very cheap because it is a dead system, and the majority will be from people changing brands feeling Olympus has let them down. I am a miro4/3 user.
The end of 43…..it only logical, now wait and see the end of M43 is near. This to is only logical with these kind of prices. 2200 euro for a big mediocre camera is just ridiculous. Oly lost their vision. They should make little camera’s under 500 euro. Even a 350 euro NEX 3 has better picture, video quality and lots of lens options. If Oly keeps this up they will lose big time. They should stick to MICRO. The problem is that the sensor is still MICRO but body, lens and prices are MACRO.
Very well put. It’s always sad when a camera company goes down, and it’s even worse when I cannot get the camera I want – small, as good as OM-D, flash controller next to EVF, reasonably priced, can work with legacy lenses, not necessarily with a big sensor.
If the AF of 43 lenses turns out to be only “reasonable”, and this in “live view” mode (paraphrasing DPReview), I see no reason to spend $1399 instead of FOUR TIMES less, $359.99 (amazon.com at this moment), for EPM2. Same sensor, same ISO performance. Not to mention the probability for it to turn out that EM1 ISO performance is lower than that of EPM2. This happened with EM5 (see DXoMark): EPM2 ISO performance is 10% better than EM5. By the way, if the 12-60 autofocus does not behave well on EPM2, 11-22 does acceptably so. And 70-300 autofocuses almost very well, almost like on the E series.
So, am I buying another EPM2 or am I waiting for a refutal of the DPReview statement of the lack of considerable progress with 43 glass? Obviously I will have to wait for more evidence in one or the other direction.
Despite what I say in principle I have still two 4/3 lenses, the 9-18 being the better one. But there is no way I am going to spend 1500 credits to improve marginally AF.
People who want to transition to m4/2, and for who I have full respect, and just wait a further 6 months for the E-M5 substitute to appear. It will probably have the same PDAF-on-sensor for 50% less.
Really E-M1 should pass or fail not as a camera for birders, but as a camera for sports, that is what they tried to achieve.
“Really E-M1 should pass or fail not as a camera for birders, but as a camera for sports, that is what they tried to achieve.”
Some think it already failed. Not my words.
“But some criticized the camera’s sluggish autofocus, a fault that has plagued mirrorless models and disqualified it for sports photography, thus barring it from a chunk of the pro market that Olympus is attempting to capture.”
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/olympus-pins-future-hopes-mirrorless-100953049.html
What FILTH are you quoting, despicable Anonymouse?
My E-M5 is already perfectly able to catch action with its fast processing, An there are countless samples online now.
So how much more the E-M1, which has PDAF help.
We see the the role of Anonymouses is to poison wells, therefore they must be eradicated like vermin and rats…
ADMIN! Separate rules for email anonymous messages from filthy anonymous forum posts! Shouldn’t be rocket science…
As I said: “Not my words”.
And yes, truth hurts, but it is so oh necessary.
That’s not true. That’s earning one’s bread through retarded journalism, and smearing, of which we have seen numberless examples for the last 4 years.
It’s nice to see that you have no opinion of your own, nice for the sake of credibility as a photog.
: EPM2 ISO performance is 10% better than EM5.
That equates to about 1/8th of a stop well within the expected variables of DXO testing with no real life significance
“That equates to about 1/8th of a stop well within the expected variables of DXO testing with no real life significance”
The “real life significance” is that, epm2 having a higher ISO rating, it’s price is THREE TIMES lower than that of em5. Without the em5 having any other special features not found in epm2. A slight difference in stabilization and an electronic viewer – both very easily correctable.
1/8 stop + or –
that make 1/4 stop
Maybe only 8.87%. But E-PM2 has no dials, so it has no practical use.
The fact that no link to dpreview first impressions is included here .. Yet many per-order links are … Tell me what the priority of this website is. I know you have to fund this website, but ………….
Sorry. There is a video. At least. Never mind
Stephen you might want to say sorry yet again. There is a link to to the DPReview preview on the previous posting:
Olympus E-M1 and 12-40mm officially announced!
European pricing is pathetic. Even taking into account import/VAT from Japan, calculated cost is 1261.79-1312.35EUR not 1499! The “free” grip and possibly MMF-3 if you have a registered E-system camera and serial number are certainly NOT free.
This new Oly is equal or bigger than my Canon D6 with CV 40mm Ultron, right? The Pana 1.7 20mm only will make it smaller. The Canon setup is heavier, though. But thats not that much of an advantage for the Oly. And pricewise the Canon setup is about 2200 $ (body & CV), the Oly 1850&, also not that much of a difference in respect to the Canon tech specs.
No that is not right. A 6D is much bigger than both E-M5 and E-M1.
http://camerasize.com/compare/#380,482
not much, irrelevant bigger
Oly is way overpriced for a 10-18% size advantage. The weight is relevant though. I doubt MFT can overcome physics and become better than FF on the long run.
But however, I am interested in this new Oly, but I doubt I would buy it when comparing what else there is coming that is smaller than my 6D.
It’s much bigger!
trololoooo
So…Only theEye and me are goin to buy this camera? lol
That’s pretty hilarious!
I would very much like to (funds & wife permitting 😉 ), but the 40-150 f2.8 lens sounds very interesting. I really want to add that to my kit. Somehow, I don’t think I’ll be pre-ordering the E-M1 but maybe next year should work out better & especially if there are bonus deals that are attractive.
I will buy one as soon as they are available, so now we are 3.
I’m buying one. Sold my E-5 last week.
I just preordered one with the Kit lens this morning 🙂
I’m not buying it. Seems that Oly OSPDAF still needs some refinements, anyway.
Too many interesting stuff coming soon: sensor shift IS, EOS-m4/3 Speed Booster ( will it work with OSPDAF ? ), … I guess we’ll have a clearer picture in a couple of months.
Bummer that the production of the nice(and big) FT lenses should be stopped
they are the essence of “one beautiful system”
so FT really dies .. not with the bodys but with the lenses.
There is a mistake in the video review. You can get focus peaking with adapted lenses by assigning the feature to a button. Same mistake we had in some early review of the E-P5.
That just shows that a reviewers comment is only as good as their knowledge of the camera & since it is so customisable, they are going to miss things & pass on some incorrect statements.
FT uses the e-m1 to soften the blow of telling you FT is dead. Give them props for having the courtesy to even bother designing the e-m1 to be somewhat compatible with FT lens.
It was always a niche market for olyumpus DSLRS but to be honest if you going to that size you might as well just go canikon.
Best advice for FT SHG lens owners now is to sell them before they become worth nothing.
I like a lot this camera, and stills could be the best of M43, but it is a big mistake no video useful capacity almost like GH3, would have been the perfect camera.
I think that I will wait more time, to see, or maybe a hack, what a pity 🙁
I think M43 is in trouble. And the reason is sensor size compare to price of camera. For what it is, this camera is ridiculously priced compared to better options out there from various other brands, including Panasonic.
If Panasonic is smart, they would leave M43 and team up with Fuji and release a Full Frame Mirrorless DSLR the size of a GH3 without the hump, basically a slightly larger, G6 styled Mirrorless DSLR to compete with Sony’s offerings.
Everything looks like its moving towards Mirrorless and Sony may be a front runner because it seems like they’re the only ones thinking ahead. Hopefully with its new alliance from Fuji, Panasonic will create a FF Mirrorless camera. With support from Fuji and Lens approval from Leica, I believe that’s the winning combination in the near future.
Even though I think M43 is dying, I still want the GX7, because you can’t beat that size for street photography and my P/L 25mm needs a street photography partner. But yeah, I think M43 is done soon. Too expensive for what it is.
Mr ALLCAPS
No, the price is not the problem, the problem are the features of lower end models. As bousozoku said, if this is E-5 successor, where are E-450, E-620 and E-30 successors, with equivalent features and ergonomics? Olympus needs to make 500, 800 and 1000 dollar bodies with OSPDAF, VF, flash and proper grip. PENs are nice, but all lack VF and grip.
Interesting that admin seems to really like having canikon trolls swarming his site. Perhaps time to change the name from 4/3 rumors to troll heaven or trolls galore.
Just dont’ care about them. It’s the price for having a bit more free place than on bigger sites. And it’s also a conequence of me not being on this site all day.
One thing I haven’t been able to determine is whether or not the camera has a built in time-lapse mode?
It has, the same way as E-M5
E-M5 does not have timelapse. The most recent E-P*5 (I forget the name of it, but it’s the one with the same sensor as the E-M5) does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-dmp-brt14
Your point being? I’ve done lots of timelapse myself, using the E-M5. It is not a function built into the camera.
It does have timelapse, but limited to 999 frames (why?!).
My question is if it has a built in function in the camera similar to other cameras I have used where the camera has a built in function where you tell it how long and the interval between shots and after it takes all the shots assembles it into a time lapse video all inside the camera. No processing required – the camera spits out a ready to run MOV (or other video format) file.
…of course it is the right step for olympus. the classic 4/3 was/is dead anyway – just think: when did the last 4/3 product show up? This step is (finally) officially admitting the obvious.
Taking the 4/3 users over to the m4/3 camp was long overdue, however. Sensor phase-detection should have been included in the e-m5 to begin with, or in a minor upgrade 1 year ago. It really frustrated a lot of 4/3 users to not being able to upgrade the sensor so long (while keeping AF useable).
Craponikontax DSLR will die. E-M1 IQ is already as good as FF, minus extreme DOF and High ISO concerns. Olymus destroys Craponikontax for colours and tones and superior glass. Olympus made the right choice with m4/3. APS-C mirrorless lens is massive and slow focusing. FF mirrorless will be worse. Only slow aperture and simple design can save it. Or else use as digital back only with legacy glass.
FF DSLR lovers are idiots. Same idiots who think commuter and family cars must have V8 high displacement engines. Fail idiots. DSLR die. Dumb OVF idiots.
“FF DSLR lovers are idiots”
OK that’s a bit too much.I do think, however, that mirrorless is the future; and that image quality of mft will AT SOME POINT be good enough for most shooters. No way I would invest in FF glass now when mft image quality is already fairly good and bound to get much better.
“”DSLR will die. E-M1 IQ is already as good as FF, minus extreme DOF and High ISO concerns.”
And you are calling others idiots lol , the best FF against the best mFT has,better DR, better colour depth, better high ISO noise, better resolution, better DOF control.mFT has one thing going for it size/weight and that is it.
Lets get real! No M43 camera is as good as ANY current full frame DSLR for image quality! Perhaps for 8×10’s or web sized photos you’d be ahrd pressed to find a difference but lets see a 20×30 taken with a D800 and good glass compared to an EM-1. The difference will be pretty amazing in both detail rendering and dynamic range.
And calling people that don’t agree with you an idiot… ???
Craponikontax days are numbered. Dusty oily frontfocusing backfocusing crap.
Check RAW at DPR. E-M1 can match any foolframe. Use eyes for once foolframers. Not DxO. And WOW. I can print 100 ft images with foolframe. Genius. Foolframers are the masterpiece creators. Order some more paper and ink for those masterpieces. Future is with digital content and wireless sharing/publication. DSLR die.
It’s pretty clear that rational argument is not going to work with somebody entrenched in a rigid belief system, no mater how flawed it is.
Rigid belief system is thinking you need foolframe DSLR to get high IQ and only Canikon will do.
Nobody said that you need a FF DSLR to get good image quality or even great image quaity but you said that m43 image quality is AS GOOD AS FF which is flat out not true unless you are comparing it to FF image quality of more than 5 years ago. Besides the utter garbage of that statement, you aren’t helping your cause by using inflammatory words like “idiot” to anyone that doesn’t believe in your delusions.
I’ve put my pre-order in. I have some concerns about it, and I think that there will be things about it that I don’t like, but my finger slipped…
from what I get from this video review is that the images are sharp , video sucks and the continuous auto focus does not do well with horizontally moving objects and there is minor improvement with high ISO…makes me want to throw 1500 dollars away…and for everyone saying MFT is a dying system….probably true but I really enjoy using my E-PM2. I am going to enjoy it while I can…also about the continuous auto focus…I get similar results on my E-PM2…horizontal movements it struggles to keep focus…but if the object is moving towards me it can track focus pretty well…Yep I am all over the place…as far a MFT being dead…I have never seen a commercial advertisement for micro four thirds cameras here in the States
Actually, Olympus has had (very bad) commercials in the United states. For many people the image quality of a Em1/Em5/gh3… is more than good enough. Just think about what 5 more years of sensor development will do.
what 5 more years of sensor development will do.
Yep,and APS & FF sensors will advance the same thus keeping the argument the same “acceptable ” is always a matter of opinion. I hate my GH3 at 1600ISO when used in low light others are happy with it.
I will be giving this model a by and waiting till the next gen as looking at the RAW samples { dpreview} with Raw Therape the differences between it and the E-M5/GH3 are tiny which is good as I do not feel the need to upgrade happy wife happy bank account
The most important thing is that 4/3 lenses are now usable on m4/3 bodies. Or at least I hope Oly will put this sensor in other models as they replace them.
Bastards. “Mudaki” on Russian.