Magnum Photographer Thomas Dworzak tested the GX7 and you can see him in this video I embedded on top. Not as famous as Thomas but still enjoyable to watch if you speak German, there is a presentation video at SystemKamerForum on Youtube.
More GX7 bits: GX7 presentation in Japan at DC.watch. Image samples at Focus Numerique. And Spanish test by DSLRmagazine.
GX7 preorder list (Click on store name to open the GX7 price, specs and preorder page):
Silver GX7 body at Amazon US, BHphoto, Adorama, Samys, Wex Deutschland, Wex UK , Amazon JP.
Silver GX7 with 14-42mm lens at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, Samys, Henrys, Wex Deutschland, WexUK, Amazon UK.
Black GX7 body at Henrys, Wex Deutschland, Wex UK, Amazon UK, Amazon Japan.
Black GX7 with 14-42mm lens at Henrys, Wex Deutschland, Wex UK, Amazon UK.
Black GX7 with 20mm lens at Henrys, Wex UK, Amazon UK, Amazon Japan.
Silver GX7 with 20mm lens at Henrys, Wex UK, Amazon UK, Amazon Japan.
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Note sure who he is.
The video composition is a lot better than the photo composition (as shown in the video). The photos displayed are nothing but great in terms of composition and color.
And he didn’t have the actual need of tilting the EVF, as far as the situations in the video are concerned.
And he shouldn’t be shooting while driving, or pretended to do so for the video. Some one learns to shoot like him may kill himself or others.
“The video composition is a lot better than the photo composition (as shown in the video). The photos displayed are nothing but great in terms of composition and color.”
suggest you to go to the book store and buy some photo book of “MAGNUM”
you may understand something more about photographers of the MAGNUM group.
So you think the compositions are good for the examples shown in the video?
You have to know about the style of the documentary photograph first.
Then, you have to know the style of those magnum photographers. This group is one of the best in this world. They have something more than that.
PS. my answer for your question is YES, they are good and look REAL : )
I don’t think that the tilting EVF is for everybody. There are uses for it. Some people might use it more than others.
And the beauty of it is that if you don’t need it, don’t use it. It will be there for the times when you do need it.
My camera also has many features that hardly ever use. Like the creative mode or the Auto mode. But it’s there, because other users probably find it more useful.
There are so many users nowadays, with different needs, different things they like.
Just because you don’t find a feature useful, that does not mean that someone else won’t use use.
And now, that you’ve heard about this feature, you might be in a situation sometime, when you will realize that the shot you did, might have been even better if you had that tilting EVF. You know, never say never.
My comment was “And he didn’t have the actual need of tilting the EVF, as far as the situations in the video are concerned.”
I didn’t say it is not useful for everyone for every situation. Hope you can read more carefully next time.
Andrew Reid from EOSHD has a leak of the E-M1 with the 12-40 lens… nice! 😉
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11072/the-miniaturisation-war-sony-rx1-vs-5d-mark-iii
I think he just posted the same picture as the ones posted here a few days ago:
http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-picture-of-the-new-12-40mmf-2-8-olympus-mft-lens/
Uops.. missed that…(how could I) 😉
This image was on 43rumors before he posted it. 😉
Video not in 1080p so it looks like crap and is irrelevant.
I don’t think it meant to represent the GX7 video capability. The video is a documentary about the photographer and his experience with the camera. It does not represent video from the GX7. Admittedly would like to have seen it in higher rez, but hardly consider it irrelevant. It is a viewpoint by one professional photographer. Panasonic contracted with a couple of Magnum photographers, to work with the GX7 in their daily work and to document their experience.
I am sure that is not what he meant.
DAMN,…Let the bashing begin!!!
I was not wowed by the photos…
I can’t really get excited about this camera…My OMD images are so much better than my GX1 images…I am kind of jaded..I am not a fan of the Panny sensors and processing…I am thinking that this will be more of the same….would love to see a raw image to image comparison of the GX7 to the OMD or better yet the E-P5 by a skilled neutral party?..
So, let’s see here….
You don’t like his photos, therefore the Panny sensors are bad?
Yeah. Run with that.
LOL! That is “your” spin on what I wrote…not mine.
Two separate things.
1. I was not wowed by his photos. Period.
2. I am not impressed with the Panasonic sensor in my GX1 compared to my OMD. Period.
The composition of his photos could have been taken with ANY camera…that is about him…not the GX7.
I am skeptical of the GX7 because of my experience with my GX1 sensor and image processing compared to my OMD.
…so run with THAT, chucko!
How can you be skeptical, by basing it on a older sensor? That’s DUMB. Spin much??
Immature fool.
You seem to be related to Amalric.
Possessing a similar gracious and subtle demeanor. What a pleasure to read such deeply probing and insightful thoughts.
😛
WTH does the GX1 sensor have to do with the GX7’s !? Sure I can agree with your notion about Pany’s processing, although that’s only limited to JPEGs and then again you can custom balance most of it. I’m not a Pany fanboy btw, I’ve been shooting with an E-PL1 for 3 years now and I love Oly colors but your bias and preconception against the GX7 has no base in reality. Go look at the many test going around the web, check DPR’s comparison tool, the GX7 looks no worse than the Sony sensor, they’re toe to toe, while one gains in one area it looses another.
If you like your Em5 more than the GX1 for other reasons like handling, IBIS, design, form factor, etc, that’s entirely reasonable, but your preference for Oly has nothing to do with the quality of the new Pany, extrapolating the all-around disappointment that was the GX1 to the newly announced GX7 is also dumb, they’re different cameras, Pany is not joking when they jumped those many digits to imply the leap in performance and features that the GX7 means in comparison to the GX1.
I’ve been using an Olympus camera for many years yet I fail to comprehend why people jump at the opportunity to bash others people preference (much less one who has both companies products), I like Oly but I also recognize when Pany has done well and vice versa, I don’t go bashing people for choosing either of them, this is a shared system afterall, I consider myself as a m4/3 user not an Oly or Pany user, I have products from both of them.
AMVR..you are the one doing the bashing…not me.
Please stop crying, honey.
Please?
Well, this is not a gx1 and its not the same sensor, so your thoughts are based on?
I’d rather wait for some complete test reports by reputable testers instead of posting some negativity based on prejudice.
Gee?…I think that is what I said?
“would love to see a raw image to image comparison of the GX7 to the OMD or better yet the E-P5 by a skilled neutral party?”
Well, almost. See, there is something about the ton of your post that makes it rather negative.
Just my personal experience with Panasonic sensors compared to others. Just my experience. It was negative….so? Maybe Panasonic is who you should be attacking, not me.
You are totally allowed to have an opinion and voice it, but, by posting it to a public forum, others are allowed to have an opinion on what you post, and may voice that opinion. Has totally zero to do with ‘attacking’ you, and everything with discussing things.
With regards to your experience, I share that experience. I have a G2, which is an older camera, and while its raws are kinda ok and comparable to those of olympus cameras from that time, its jpeg engine is just not very good at all. Vertainly the E-M5 was a huge step up, but, that was a huge step up in raw performance from both the e-p1 that I own and the G2.
Additionally, it has been widely reported that Panasonic has been doing significant improvements to its jpeg engine, is using much newer sensors then the gx1 or my outdated g2 and e-p1 have, and that the gx7 will show a very significant improvement for both. Just looking at the output of various cameras that were released since the GX1 will show that. Enough to satisfy you? no idea, thats totally upto you, but that neither e-p1, g2 or gx1 provide an anywhere reasonable starting point for making assumptions about cameras from either brand that are available today is totally clear.
And just because it’s his “opinion” doesn’t mean he can’t be wrong.
You don’t like the pictures from a camera with what is basically a 3 or 4 year old sensor, so you’ve decided you don’t like the pictures from a far different camera with a brand new sensor. Yeah, that’s logical.
Guess they didn’t teach logic or analysis at your school?
???? “And he shouldn’t be shooting while driving, or pretended to do so for the video. Some one learns to shoot like him may kill himself or others.”
It seems pretty clear to me that “he isn’t filming” but is being filmed by videographer who is accompanying him for the video. Left hand drive car. He is in driver’s seat. Moving car video is filmed from passenger seat on the right side, through the right hand windshield and the right hand mirror. External planned clips as he drives by etc, all by the videographer. This is a documentary about him shooting with GX7. I don’t think any of video is supposed to represent the video of the GX7 itself. That will come in time.
Whether he was actually shooting and driving is not important. It is about the message sent that may cause someone to actually shoot and drive.
not saying that i don´t agree with you on a certain level, i nevertheless would like to add that in almost every hollywood movie they fire a gun.
now, although people in the USA indeed tend to kill each other a bit more often with guns than people from other nations (maybe if you leave out Brazilia and Mexico), I wouldn´t go that far to directly correlate movies with citizen´s stupidity 😉
This is what I have come to expect from the vast majority of “photographers”. Bashing a new camera because it is not the same one as they use. Bashing others who use the camera. Never looking at the little details or obvious details “he should not be shooting while driving” Silly person did not pay attention. I have mentioned MANY times that I really like mirrorless and that I want to go small but was not happy (YET) with the IQ and will stick to full frame until that happens. Then everyone bashes me for my opinion and how mirrorless is great and I just don’t get it. Damn, even when I say “I WANT mirror less”. It is crazy. I presume most of these armchair photography warriors are male and lack the discipline to actually pay attention to the details.
Some great shots in that video. I am still REALLY interested in mirrorless and I must admit, the bodies of the latest cameras look fantastic. But, I will STILL wait for the em1 to see how good the phase detection works. Then, it may be time to move fully to mirrorless. But damn, the DoF still won’t be there (you can bash me for that, but its true).
+1 for Stephen
The video was too low rez to showcase the images so I have no interest in judging them based on that. But that wasn’t the point. The point was to document his experience with the camera.
And yes, many forums including photography forums are filled with naysayers who look only for the flaws. They live to argue, something, anything. Just a fact of life. Frankly if I wasn’t battling some health problems and having to serve as a family caregiver for the time being, I would be out with my cameras looking for visual opportunities. Glad to know that you are open minded enough to consider other formats. If FF meets your need and m4/3 isn’t yet where it does, it only makes sense. There are many people whose needs it does meet now. In the meantime at least you are watching its progress, in case it some day should. Your honesty is refreshing.
I really like m4/3 and am excited about the new changes, but truth be known, even if I had my perfect m4/3 kit, I might want something larger and higher rez just for special landscapes and cityscapes where the demand for detail is greatest. But in that case I might even go past FF to medium format. Maybe a Pentax or Mamiya 645 where you can get from 40 to 80 gig resolutions. Of course the ticket to play is very, very expensive so that is really just a pipe dream. People complain about cost here, how about 12,000+ minimum to play with the big dogs.
I used to think that Mac vs. PC flame wars were bad. Then I started reading photography forums. A lot of folks should really go out and use that camera that is better than everyone else’s.
+1 So true, lol.
Well said, Stephen.
Instead of commenting generally on people bashing, can you comment specifically on what they have actually said? If not, you are simply trolling.
bashing is bashing, not much to it
About bashing : this post appears as a nice opportunity to remind that bashing is actually a pollution which harms not only the victim (usually Panasonic) but also the adulated Olympus !
It’ nice and unique to benefit from 2 great brands synergy on a specific format, but that attraction among newcomers may be ruined by the ridiculous behaviour of a few fans willing Olympus as uncompeted sovereign.
Hope it will help.
“It’ nice and unique to benefit from 2 great brands synergy on a specific format, but that attraction among newcomers may be ruined by the ridiculous behaviour of a few fans willing Olympus as uncompeted sovereign.” WHAT? No you got that all wrong, it is Panasonic that is the uncompeted sovereign.
Just kidding. Both systems have their strengths. The reality is that they are very synergetic. Pick the body from either or both systems that meet your need and then pick the lenses and accessories from either or both systems that meet your need. Then turn off the dang computer and go out and photograph something. That is the real strength and beauty of m4/3. You can have the best of all worlds. No need to settle for less.
I hope my post comes up as a sensible response to yours.
People don’t ever read other people’s comments carefully on this site, they just rush to press the reply button and start spouting their long-since second-hand learned mantra. People feel they should justify their camera choice to others and thus become defensive that’s why they bash anyone who doesn’t buy Oly or Pany or whatever flavor they choose to defend, the crazy thing is, unlike canon or nikon, this is a shared standard, I can use any combination of bodies and lenses, no one is tied to a company yet they fight over them, it’s ridiculous.
I respect your choice to wait for mirrorless to mature, but being on this side of the argument I must say you’re loosing many shots by not jumping, you should try it as a companion system first, you`ll be amazed at the level of freedom m4/3 delivers in comparison to a big hulking DSLR. IMO, and this is personal, I think the IQ is more than enough, your needs may vary of course.
About DOF, I don’t know your style or anything but more DOF is an advantage in my view, it works better for a lot more genres than thin DOF, and even then you can still get plenty of shallow DOF with the f0.95 primes by voighlander and SLR magic. One thing you cannot fault m4/3 with is lack of flexibility, that’s for sure.
Good luck on your waiting journey, I hope patience pays off, after 3 years I know it did for me, now that the GX7 and 12-40 were announce.
You are spot on. Having more room to breath with greater light gathering potential (e.g. F1.8 and still more than just the eyes in focus) can be very beneficial. I don’t believe shallow depth of field is the be all and end all, but it is a feature you need at times. I am pretty sure I will grab an em1 when it arrives as I have been eager to use the 75mm 1.8 and 45mm 1.8 olympus primes again. Such beautiful lenses coupled with phased detection and the wonder ibis system could be an amazing changer (for me) at least.
What your really want is a FF mirrorless don’t you?
I too find micro 4/3 fine for my needs. I’m watching the reports of the GX7 with much interest, the feature set is exactly what I want and if the raw ability of the new sensor is good, I’m in. One thing Davv might want to consider in his quest for a higher resolution camera might be a Sigma DPxM camera. I have the DP2M, and even tho it has a few quirks, it can produce a very nice high resolution file.
admin, seen this?
http://digicame-info.com/2013/08/post-503.html
E-M1 (15/8 included) – $1470
12-40 – $900
kit – $2200
HLD-7 – $200
Surprisingly reasonable prices.
Can’t wait!
Any info is 4/3 adapter included?
wow 12-40 $900,.and Kit $2200 I’m in,.if this price is true ,. i have to start saving money then
12-40 price seems too good to be true. If it is, it may bring down the price of the 12-35 even more.
I don’t know why you’d waste your money on this. Get a real camera from a real camera brand. Olympus has been making cameras since 1936, not a couple of years. a
Add to that their 5 axis IBIS, ergonomics, build quality, colors, JPEGs, autofocus, lenses – the comparison with Panasonic becomes embarrassing.
Troll,i don’ care about since 1936 and oly still underdogs when compare to CanoNikon ,they still loser
was loser along time
Currently the GX7 is the only “RF” within m4/3 so users who like this gestalt will prefer it to any Olympus. Moreover, it’s a very capable camera that is priced reasonably. In many ways it is superior to the (rumored) E-M1: Built in flash, video, size/weight etc.
Besides, I’m tired of negative comments like yours. If you have nothing to say just don’t say it.
I know. How could I attack the sweet and gentle Panasonic corporation. How wicked of me!!!
Oh, get a life !
Who the fck cares about companies !? Is Olympus history gonna do any good to my photography !? NO! is the lack of Pany photographic history affect my shots !? NO!
Then Shut the FCK UP.
This is shared standard system, this neither an Oly or Pany exclusive, we can use any sort of combination from both of those companies, why the fck do you trolls insist on fighting over that crap !? Is someone paying you ? Do something with your life (ending it would be a nice start) and stop wasting our time responding to your sht.
I agree. Anyone who criticizes the benevolent Panasonic corporation should end their life.
shut up ,Fuck you
We can only hope you take your own advice.
should i go get a hasselblad lunar based on their heritage and years?
That wasnt bashing at all was it?
You are one of those people that us loyal Olympus customers could do without. Go learn some manners, and while at it, go learn that results count, legacy is merely something that may be helpful for getting results, and with regards to results, the gx7 delivers.
If Panasonic didn’t make micro 4/3, Olympus Camera Division was Dead!
I want to like this camera. I guess we will all just have to wait and see the more trusted sites reviews to see how the image quality truly stacks up.
At the moment it seem to tick all the boxes in terms of:
New hopefully significantly improved
built in evf,
good ergonomics,
tilt lcd (though id prefer fully articulated), some form of ibis (obviously 5 axis is better),
the lumix menu layout,
and a big one for me ( though i know not for everyone) BUILT IN FLASH!!
For me micro 4/3 has always been about being reasonably compact and conveniant, whilst still delivering good image quality. The gx7 looks to be a winner, but im still reserving judgement at this stage.
“I guess we will all just have to wait and see the more trusted sites reviews to see how the image quality truly stacks up.”
If people would just adopt this attitude, instead of fighting over things that none of us know the answer to yet, this would be a much nicer place.
Right now, most of the arguments here are like having a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
I still don’t get why people keep comparing the E-M1 to the GX7, they’re totally different beasts aimed at totally different demographics. I would’ve been better to announce them far apart from each other, would’ve saved us all this trolling going on here. The GX7 tackles a totally different market segment, it comes to fill a void in the system, it tries to recapture some of the market that was left for Sony and Fuji to take for themselves. The E-M1 on the other hand is an effort to lure some of the DSLR crowd into mirrorless, the only other competitors are the GH3 and actual DSLRs.
People will complain about anything on this site, at least make a reasonable argument before posting.
Its because the GX7 is to be compared with the ep5, but since in that regard it destroys it then the oly warriors have to put it against the em1. It makes no sense.
It should be compared to the e-p5? Says who? And why? Typical unqualified true homer statement.
I bet that people are going to compare it with various higher-end options available to them and see what best matches their requirements and budget.
The gx7 is only better then the e-p5 by a very small margin, one that won’t make any real difference for your pictures in almost all cases, everything else is a matter of preference.
True : same league as EP5.
Several + for GX7, at least for me : better form factor and Panny nice simple egonomics.
It’s jpeg appears to have caught up the annoying gap previously in favour of Oly… To be confirmed.
All in one, panny guys showed with GX7 how sensitive they were with market trends and that is very very omportant.
Now, the EP5 should certainly appeal the ones who are well suited with Oly customization and that is nice too !
Price range, form factor and styling to name a few. You should change your name from anonymous to exhibit A. That way I dont have to point you out as an oly fantard everytime you say something that embarrasses you. You can call me unqualified all you want but not unreasonable, or do you have proof otherwise to what I said? You fantards never do…
“It should be compared to the e-p5? Says who? And why? ”
Who? Almost everybody with some knowledge of the two cameras. Why? Because they’re both similarly priced, nearly identically sized, “rangefinder-style” m43 cameras with tiltable screens and a pretty decent set of manual controls.
As opposed to, for example, the E-M1 and GH3, which are larger, “DSLR-style” cameras with even more controls, large grips, and a higher price point (at least until you add the ridiculously overpriced EVF to the e-p5).
I agree, the GX-7 should be compared to the E-P5. Which isn’t good for Olympus as the GX-7 is what the E-P5 should’ve been. I really can’t see why anyone would pick the E-P5 over the GX-7, except for the IBIS perhaps.
The reason is blindingly obvious, theyre being released at the same time and are both relatively high end. People are genuinely tossing up which one to buy…
I suppose I can see why, being two new fairly high-end cameras in the same system, people are considering both for which they’d prefer. But they do really seem to be targeted at different demographics in terms of features, layout, and price.
That said, you can still use the same lenses and still take worthwhile photos whether you’re using an E-PM1, an EM1 (Olympus really needs to do something about those names), a GX7, a GH3, or an old G1 that I have sitting in the closet. It’s weird to get worked up about which particular camera or brand someone wants to use. Use what you like, enjoy it, tell other people why it works for you in order to spread the good word, but taking it any farther is silly.
Personally, I’m waiting for one of those really good deals on an E-M5 so I can upgrade my crusty old E-P2. Which still takes beautiful pictures, thank you very much!
Whenever a attention grabbing camera is being discussed you get all those trolls, all upset that THEIR current camera may no longer be ‘the best’. Sad and silly.
Does any know what brand/type of belt bags he is using?
I don’t know, but if it isn’t from Domke it isn’t a real “pro” bag. Everyone else makes cheap stuff for amateurs, just like Panasonic. 🙂
(Before you start bashing, please note that I’m being facetious.)
Not sure what to think of this advertorial. The product placement is hilarious, as it tries to emphasize the camera yet makes it seem out-of-place 😉
It is funny how he goes on about his creative freedom at magnum, in a branding video for which he had to use a certain product.
Just to inject a short break in the Oily/Painy Wars…
Got my new Voigtländer Nokton 42.5mm f0.95 on Saturday. Shot a bunch with it over the weekend.
It seems better and brighter than the 25mm. Same amazing Voigtländer build and feel. The stepless aperture is cool. I was shooting at ISO160 quite a bit at higher shutter speeds than I’d normally use with the 25mm. Preliminary shots are looking very good.
Stop fighting, people. Go out and shoot take some brat and cat snapshots and post them on Facebook! 😉
Thank you for saying that. (all of it)
I’ll probably never get that particular lens, but I’m very glad its out there and that its a great lens. Same with all the other lenses and the bodies I’ll never get – still glad they’re out there.
Nice! It’s a lens I’d definitely like to give a go.
You understand that form factor and styling are a matter of preference?
That price is a matter of if it fits your budget and is worth the money to you? Sometimes going for a slightly more expensive item with a much better price/performance simply pays, in other cases it doesn’t.
Lets just take a short look at one of the form factor related arguments:
Built-in viewfinder? that is a double edged sword. Having it built in clearly has its advantages with regards to it always being there, and not being some extra part that can get lost/forgotten. But viewfinder tech has been changing, and where for example the G2 or GX7 is forever stuck with the built-in EVF, the one on the PENs can be upgraded. Yes, even the old E-P2 can use the latest EVF (unlike with Panasonic cameras where newer EVFs also require a newer AP until now).
Last but not least, its upto people which cameras they consider buying, and that is totally independent of what comparisons you might find appropriate.
was aimed at true homer above where he says: “Price range, form factor and styling to name a few.”
“You should change your name from anonymous to exhibit A. That way I dont have to point you out as an oly fantard everytime you say something that embarrasses you.”
Ah really? already learned to read exif data? Or how about this well published weather sealing test compliance?
“You can call me unqualified all you want”
I didn’t call you unqualified, I called your statement unqualified. You only want to compare with a specific camera, one for which you have a prepared list of supposed and real disadvantages.
“but not unreasonable, or do you have proof otherwise to what I said? You fantards never do…”
Your entire post is ‘proof otherwise’. You claim things that are purely a matter of personal preference as clear advantages just to name one example of your lack of reason.
lovely guy, know his work and like it, but why call this a “test” when it is an ad?
Love the people who complain about this being nothing but Panasonic marketing. These are probably the same people who can’t stop quoting Pekka and Robin when they fawn over the latest Olympus gear.
If nothing else, we should be happy SOMEONE is making an effort to market m43.
This camera is destined to become a classic M4/3. Competition is another thing altogether. The APSC mirrorless cameras are getting very attractive. Let’s hope Panasonic’s collaboration with Fujifilm will yield an organic sensor soon. M4/3 sensor must improve on DR and High ISO to be viable.
Current m43 sensor are close to the best APS-c sensors in each and every way. it has been a valid argument till feb 2012, when the EM5 obliterated it. And now Panny seems to be on par with this sensor, may be a bit better. that and clearly the best lens lineup of all mirrorless camera’s in reality means m43 has a clear advantage. How it is perceived is different. Quite a few simply cannot accept that a somewhat smaller sensor now is good enough, even when it is.
YOu need a FF sensor to really get significantly better IQ.
E-M1 will win.
Win what exactly? You realize those things are meant for taking pictures, and not for racing?
I am sure the E-M1 will win the most over priced mFT gear award as Olympus drift back to their old reuse the same sensor habit. You get a couple of perks such as better EVF but no better image quality so that leaves many with the choice of E-M5 at £760 or the E-M1 which will probably be over £1500 that’s a tough one lol
I see you already did some performance tests. Pleaxe share the results!
It is a different sensor. It is exactly like Sony 5N to Sony NEX 6. Not reused. Champion of reusing the same sensor is Canon and it seems to be one of the best selling brands out there btw…
I’m trying my hardest to like this camera, as I am a GX1 owner. But so far from what I have seen I am left feeling underwhelmed. I’m not really interested in the new JPG engine, as I would be shooting RAW. The images I have seen so far haven’t given me a wow feeling, and really am wondering if there will be a justifiable difference between my GX1 and the optional EVF versus the GX7. It needs to be noticeably different in terms of image quality for me to spend £800 on the body