A nice GX7 preview by WhatDigitalCamera
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Most websites were not allowed to post image samples taken with the new 16 megapixel Panasonic GX7 sensor. There are 55 images at Photographyblog but at Panasonic’s request, they could not provide any pictures larger than 5 megapixels. But the website SuperAdrianMe posted some full size samples on Flickr (Click here). They also posted the first basic ISO comparison test (Click here). What do you think from these early samples?
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even iso200 looks quite mushy and oversharpened. lots of noise in the sky… ugly!
What can expect of that tiny sensor
Lol, of course and what you can expect from out of camera jpeg…
Is it you again Adriaantie?
No but he’s got a point.
No, I was saying something stupid but you bought it anyways!
God you are right. I HATE these tiny sensors as well. 4/3, APS, “Full-Frame”… and all the others. They are so unbelievably ridiculously TINY. And basically ALL serve NO purpose.
Which is why I am using something slightly bigger for MY photography.
http://www.lsst.org/lsst/science/concept_camera
I tell you. It’s 64cm diameter sensor or bust. All else is just for kindergarteners!
I won’t expect nothing from a silly 14yrs old fanboy.
aps-c is another story…. wow, that is big…. lol
Aps-c beats m43 now many compacts smaller cameras and they are cheaper ….just check nikon 7100 or fuji even nex
Ur wrong. Check “Digital Photo Review”: “Spending twice the money and moving up to the bulk of full-frame is the only way of gaining a significant step up from the OM-D E-M5”. APS-C is the past.
I’d agree with that. DX is no man’s land now. I used to shoot Nikon DX, then I switched to M43 AND Nikon FX. APS-C is marginally better than M43, but so much more bulky. If you’re going to be bothered with the bulk, you might as well go all the way and go FX.
Same here. Moved from DX to D700, D600 and GH2. GX7 being maybe my next body for the walkaround bag (no vignetting, light fall-off or soft corners with a speed booster in M43 from full frame lenses as on DX, and I have dozens of full frame lenses, mainly manual focus). I also think that D600 will be my last reflex camera (after Olympus, Contax, Pentax, Hasselblad and Nikon). Mega OIS from Panasonic is a wonder, even for video.
Completely agree. I’m currently selling my E-M5 to put some money towards a D600. I was considering a D7100 but the image quality and bokeh are marginally better than M43.
Has the D600 bokeh? The quality of the bokeh is a function of the lens, not the camera. Of course you get less DOF for the same FOV as you will use a longer lens. That gives you more “blur”, bokeh i in the quality of that unsharp area.
The firmware is only version 0.3 so it clearly isn’t final, but I have to agree these samples look terrible – the sky is horribly blotchy.
That ISO 6400 looks pretty usable to me.
My guess is that’s why they now have base ISO 200.
At least you can extend it below.
Let’s hope its menu Auto ISO configuration menu is also advanced enough so that you can set minimum in the extended range and maksimum at 6400.
I won’t hope at shutter speed and ISO relative settings as no one does that right.
I would have preferred to see a b&w high ISO photo. In RAW.
ISO 1600 (it’s the max I use on my OMD-Em5) looks less grainy and more noisy than that on OMD, but still those images are not the best for me.
I’ll try a copy as soon as my fav local store will have one.
“less grainy and more noisy”
wut?
JShaw, grain is different than noise: I find a grainy b&w photo pleasant, but I’ll never find noise a nice thing.
These splotched cropped images are noisy, I’m sure also because they’re JPEGs and thus have been through some kind of in camera correction.
You can check images taken with 3200 ASA film, and you’ll get what I mean.
I’m saying that OMD gives less splattered noise, but again these are not the best samples.
Speaking digitally, check the fils of Monochrome, and you’ll get the difference between unpleasant noise and nice grain.
“I would have preferred to see a b&w high ISO photo. In RAW.”
Raw isn’t B+W, Raw is specific values for each pixel, in whatever color that pixel was (rgb), this is a Bayer sensor after all. Any black and white would be derived from RAW, just as a color image.
“What do you think from these early samples?”
Absolutely nothing except the camera can take photos ! We must wait for rigorous tests or comparaisons (true iso mesurements, controled light conditions with fixed aperture and shutter speed, etc…) to tell the sensor perfomances…ok let’s say, we must wait for dxo (yeah I know it’s bad etc…) Almost everything else is waist of time !
High ISO looks fantastic to me.
Smooth plastic subjects with little micro detail are not a good way to show high ISO
Actually smooth surfaces show the most noise. The 25,600 looks really good to me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/superadrianme/9414474108/sizes/h/in/set-72157634885846944/
Agree, and the look so GX7 have the best FT sensor to now.
Its a bit early to draw any conclusions, I’d say.
I know there are some jpeg shooters and many of which just want to use their camera straight out of the box. To them, Jpeg engine is not trivial and I respect that. But I shoot RAW and to me the ultimate review is one step further. We are not there yet..
I will say this. my version of shooting jpeg is “select all” “auto WB” “auto tone”. three mouse click and a few seconds. There remains some issues such as shooting/recording speed of the camera, memory and stuff. I really don’t mean to knock off jpeg engines. That said, I have yet to do comparative review, but my prejudgment is that Adobe’s lazy auto everything is better than Panasonic or Olympus inbody jpegs.
Yes of course, JPEG and RAW is not same thing, but the can also be an early firmware in camera so i look this photos from.
Smooth surfaces can be denoised easily by the JPEG engine so you don’t see ISO performance.
Need to see the full-size images before passing judgement but looks pretty good so far. Should certainly be an improvement, stills wise, over my GH2. I just wish they would have put just a little more into this body, such as a mic input and WEATHER SEALING!
Does the camera have a digital leveller?
Of course it has.
Please visit the official web site before asking such questions:
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gx7/
Pointless examples. I need RAW files that I can download and play with before I can evaluate properly compared to my GX1
What converters support the GX-7? It seems a pointless exercise until good converters are available.
The images are still from the early versions of their SW. It is a characteristic of the need to rush to market that makes releases of images in not-yet-perfect condition.
I had hopes in that camera, but these shots don’t convince me.
I DONT CARE ABOUT HIGH ISO!!! OMG we have virtually noise-free iso 3200 nowadays.. What I care about is the dynamic range!!! WHEN WILL PEOPLE GET THAT THE DYNAMIC RANGE IMPACTS IMAGE-QUALITY MUCH MORE THEN HIGH ISO NOISE?!?!?
It depends on what kind of photo you are taking.
I need better dynamic range for landscaping, but when I shoot at concerts I need also a nice high ISO performance. By high I mean 1600, that’s enough for me.
Its ironic that I often find myself reducing the DR on post process.
thats pretty normal if you optimize a photo for on screendisplay to get that WOW feeling, for the sake of punchy, contrasty pics we sacrfice a few stops of DR(HDR wizardy excluded ofcourse), but yeah if you consider how much we adore wide DR……..
I hear you.
I have learned not to trust the camera screen, except for obvious mistakes.
Of COURSE you reduce the DR during post-processing – that’s because the only way to look at a photo is through a limited medium with limited dynamic range such as a video display or a print. There’s no way to reproduce the full dynamic range of many original scenes in a viewed photo.
The reason you need high DR when shooting is so that you are able to retain the data in the captured image – that lets you adjust the tone curve or use local enhancements to bring the very bright or dark details into the more limited dynamic range of the viewable photo.
Look, give me more DR and I won’t complain. I am not saying its over rated either.
Of course this is a tech forum, yet I sometimes wonder where is the fine line between common sense ends and excessive megalomania.
nope there isnt a line. Just a bunch of “grown men” crying about every single little thing they can think of…
😀
Danonino — You should shout a bit louder and post COMPLETELY in caps. People will take you more seriously. 🙂
Most people don’t know what they are talking about when it comes to DR.
In film we had negs that had a huge amount of info over a long tonal range but when printing we employed strategies that brought out some detail and discarded some other detail.
It was called skill.
Exposure was important in capturing that range of tones that we pre-visualized so that printing was as easy as possible. Today people quack foolishly about more DR as if they can snap madly without any knowledge , skill or care and throw the RAW file into a processor that will magically reveal all sorts of detail that will transform their trash into treasure.
Some day we get there.
Then you will be able to shoot your Lolcat photos at any ISO, aperture, shutter speed, and, (oh yes) any FL length because we will have 100MP sensors and f.7 lenses that will allow us to have nothing in focus. But I will hardly call that photography.
The photo is made before pressing the shutter. It was made using vision, and preparation to accommodate the limitations of the tools not as some trolling expedition through a boatload of files at 2am to see if anything can be gleaned from the photo sludge scraped from the “photo expedition”.
Are you kidding. The demand for better DR has been on the lips of most m43 users. It is what sets OMD and GH3 apart and it was noted. If you look at noise, the Gh2 is not far behind my EPL5. It is the DR, tonaily and colour depth.
So I agree; we need very good DR. Noise….not really a problem for me on the GH2 already.
At first look, i found OMD noise/grain more pleasant to my eyes, but it’s just an impression.
I prefer some “grain” over this aggressive smoothing, but my interest is mostly in B&W prints. The samples are not bad considering the severe under exposure. Just not my cup of tea.
Strangely, my favorite camera for prints is the Olympus E-5. It has a very nice noise pattern in monochrome around ISO1600 and accepts excellent lenses.
I too even E-5 on iso 1600, but soft light in rainy weather is the not probleme go up to iso 6400 if you over expose one step.
I don’t get the “no AA filter” feel with these samples, a first test JPEG set won’t really give a proper feel, as generally you just get an impression of someone using a camera they aren’t used to with unknown in-camera settings … not the best scenario
It’s such an exciting camera, I’ll be doing a full review soon 🙂
http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2013/08/panasonic-lumix-gx7-review-coming.html
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Good for you Carl G. I look forward to it.
I agree. Very nice. Gearheads will find fault in anything. My GX1 has plenty of life in it, but I will enjoy reading reviews of the GX7.
Is it me or is the autofocus on the new Panasonic 20mm lens faster then the old one. Hard to tell. Check out 1:30 of the video.
Focus speed with the old 20mm seems to vary quite a bit depending on the camera used. It’s plenty fast on my GH2 and seems even faster with my GX1, even in low light. I shot at a gallery opening a few months back with very low light and was surprised at how little it hunted on the GX1.
It would be nice to see an improvement in the new version. Someday well see real tests.
What the hell is the deal with the silver only body, preorder in the U.S.? Funk man paint your funking bodies, Panasonic, I want a black one.
full size sample pic totally blurred? how can they publish something like this? but image quality seems to be ok, but not a huge step forward. no wonder, todays sensors are all very good, maybe there will be a real step forward in a few years.
Very nice camera!! But I wish the camera has mic input for video shooting 😛
Wait for GH5. GX 7 is not meant to be “professional” and Panasonic is not going to undercut their flagship. Not just yet.
Yeah, Stop spewing nonsense. The Only reason to get a GH3 over this is better video and water sealing. This camera will suit me very well in the streets. I do want a black version. What’s up with the states only getting the black/silver combo, Panasonic?
The black/silver countries are where they have a feeling for style… 🙂
I’ll wait for real tests, but there’s no reason to expect it to perform much differently than the GH3, IMHO. (And don’t tell me it’s a different sensor because Panasonic says they designed it. They said the same thing about the GH3.)
The biggest concern for me, based on what DPR wrote, is how hard it will be to see the EVF for an eyeglass wearer. Panasonic seems to be struggling with EVF design lately. But if that’s not a real problem, this looks like a very nice complement to my GH3, when size matters more than handling and ergos.
Do you have a source where Pana said that the GH3 sensor was designed by them? I actually remember when asked why no multi-aspect sensor, they simply said that the sensor in the GH3 was “what was available at the time”. They almost sounded embarassed that they had to buy from one of their biggest competitors, at a premium nonetheless. You wouldn’t say that if you were trying to advertise your own new sensor. Actually, the amount of information about the GX7 sensor is an indicator that it is really a new sensor, designed by Pana.
Correct. “This was the best sensor available to us at the time” is what they said.
Olympus advertised their EP3 sensor as “new” back when they introduced it and then had to backpedal as time passed.
The Olympus say is them had “tweakeing” than sensor on E-P3 (use hybrid AA filter) so Olympus start on E-5, there the not is an realy aa filter, only “aa filter effect” so is build in high pass and low pass filter.
And an thing to, Olympus produce not sensor, them talk only by then jobb Olympus self had make.
There were several interviews after release where Panasonic talked about it being there sensor, designed by them, etc. It’s been a long time, but I’ll see if I can find any of them.
I see,… i use glasses self but, use small glasses and look down in EVF. 😉
Well, one thing is clear, the EP5 has been left in the dust. Brutally. I expect a price cut on that one soon… Panasonic raises the bar once again, but then again the new OMD is just around the corner!
That’s a matter of personal opinion, as for myself it is yet to prove it’s ability and needs to make a big step up the ladder from recent Panasonic efforts.
I understand the GX7 doesn’t do long exposures (bulb) & only goes up to 60 secs whereas the E-P5 can do bulb. There are usually trade offs to achieve certain results & Panas sensor might now be extra sensitive (better hi ISO) at the cost of limited exposure time.
Why didn’t they include a mic input? I’m guessing there’s also no headphone jack? Bizarre given how expensive this camera is and how capable Panasonic is when it comes to video.
Yeah, there’s only a jack for the RSL1 remote.
I don’t see why they want to keep the mic input exklusive to the G and GH lines when the GX sits in between them, at least price-wise. So if they were afraid to lose money by giving away this feature to less expensive models than the GH3, they wouldn’t have included it in the G6.
Now, some people might go for the G6 for video shooting when they’d otherwise be more interested in the GX7.
still like the DMC-l1 better
http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2012/01/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1-still-real-gem.html
thought the pictures look pretty good, until I read the forums here and realized that they totally suck instead.
you win today. haha
You know, I always liked Olympus. I was so incredibly frustrated with the E-p5, that I sold most of my m4/3 gear and got into Fuji. I was going to wait for this camera, but then again, I like OLYMPUS. Not panasonic. I was in the system for the brand and the retro look. But the lack of built in EVF on the E-p5 really was a disappointment. I’m not afraid or ashamed to say it, any existing modern camera has enough IQ for me, either m4/3, APS-C or FF. Even 1 inch sensors have enough IQ for me. I am not a pro. I am an enthusiastic consumer. So it all comes down to look, brand, usability, size, etc…
About the GX7,I could dig this camera,it has all the bells and whistles, EVF, two dials, the IQ will be more than adequate, looks decent, pop up flash. It has everything I could wish for. But it’s not an olympus and to my eye it doesn’t ooze that retro appeal. I think it’s a great camera, and it seems perfect. I stated before that I don’t like the OM-D, for various reasons. The pen would have been perfect for me. As it is, and I believe I posted about this, I got a fuji instead. The focus is not as fast. That is the only downside. If you are reading this Olympus, this is how you lose a client and a fan. I’ve had olympus from when I was a kid, 35mm compact, slr, Dlsr, and now m4/3. I Love the brand, too bad it’s now run by retards. As for Panasonic, congratulations! You seem to have made all the right decisions and created a great camera. The GX7 seems to be perfect in every way.
The pricing is interesting: 999,- Pounds ~ 1100,- € including the 20mm and an evf! The Olympus Pen 5 costs about 1500,- in that package, which is way too much! Let’s hope Olympus reacts on that…
With all the euphoria about announcement, I wonder if everybody has forgotten to ask about the actual release date of the GX7. Because I can’t find any.
one of the online stores notes shipping date of Sept. 30th
September 12 in Japan, mid to end of September is what is stated for other regions
Thanks!
I guess it does have an AA filter…being that mushy at iso200…
You are a blind troll.
There are no verified images from production camera yet released.
LOL…and you are a kid trapped in a man/woman body….
I knew fully what the responses here were gonna be about the samples weeks ago. Where were these people when the truly mushy samples of the oly 17 1.8 were posted??
Sorry, i didnt see the samples you are refering to. But here it is: it sucked too. OK? Now, if you are happy with these samples, good for you…buy the camera. I think we ALL are entitled to an opinion…ok?..
When did you make that opinion? Before or after you saw the samples? Dont answer, I already know
good one..you win…jesus…this is ridiculous, just not as much as these samples…lol. Panasonic shouldnt let the guy post these full size samples, simple.
Haa… how about in camera jpg settings? Panasonic default ooc jpgs always were not really good.
too quick to say about a high iso-image qaulity.
It’s just a demo camera and that reviewer didn’t us tell anything about the setting.
just my opinion
Why don’t we see some real pictures here? : ) @admin
That looks really really good for me!!!!
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/dslm/gx7_special/kyoto/index.html
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/dslm/gx7_special/hong_kong/index.html
I don’t see any spectacular improvement compared to OMD-Em5 files in these photos you linked.
This is nothing against GX7, I say it before getting flamed.
I find Kioto album quite boring, except for a couple of them.
Hong Kong album is really nice and I enjoyed looking at every photo.
This proove again that gear is important but not the most important thing.
Thanks for the links!!!
I couldn’t agree more about the trite Kyoto (thought the shots of the feet standing outside wearing geta is very nice) vs. Hong Kong shots (exciting!).
Certainly gear is secondary, maybe thirdary.
As for hipsterdom? Pfffffft 😉
I think we are splitting hairs these days. Sensor technology is really good. The EM-5 is a great camera. Go out and take some photos people. Chances are the camera you already have is a wonder of technology.
WylyQuimby, I take photos every day. 🙂 Having an opinion and writing about it is what forums are made for. I’m sure I did not offended anyone: Kioto photos are good (to me) from the photo-journalist point of view. They are perfect for a reportage. Hong Kong ones have more impact on me. That’s all.
Ulli prefers those taken in Kioto, perhaps because of the model, and it’s ok. We can’t always like the same things.
I think that we have a different taste (style)
For me, I prefer Kyoto set more than Hong Kong set. I like the street photography but i choose the Kyoto set, since those pictures show the emotion of the people there, great lighting, can see DR of the camera, less process (mean true camera’s color).
again.. this is just my opinion.
and thank for sharing your idea too!
Uth, that’s what I wrote above: everyone has its taste and that’s ok. 🙂
even I dont like geisha`s (sorry if not right word) …I like both of the albums…inspirative
If you put new gear in the hands of a good photographer, you will be easily “distracted” by his/her talents rather then any attempt in showcasing of improved IQ. Both nice albums, where i prefer the Kyoto photos as its about people photography.
According to pocket-lint GX7 sensor has a 6dB signal-to-noise advantage or 10% improvement over the GH3, read under “Picture perfect?” paragraph:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/122371-hands-on-panasonic-lumix-gx7-review
The best M43 sensor yet!
wow, how many percents better then the best before? 😉
Anyone else noticed that the price of the GX1 on Amazon just went to $300?
BTW Model with 20mm = 999 EU, body only = 899 EU.
So the NEW 20mm worth only 100 EU. What a debacle for its Panny worshippers 🙂
Send it over, I offer 50 EU 🙂
Am.
Y’know, kinda like Canon with the 6D and the EF24-105mm kit where that lens is also cheaper with the kit, yet more expensive on it’s own? Dang, you’re Dumb… Dang, I feel dumb, responding to your moronic comment!
Just stick with your newly-purchased-used OMD, take a softener, and chill the F* out. You have zero interest in buying this camera, so why did you even bother? AND your photo’s aren’t all that, Sniping from overhead.. WEAK.
Troll Harder, Baldie.
here, here
Never mond. It seems that you are not clever enough in the US to get the 20mm kit. I’ll ask the Japs directly.
Now I hope that you realise that the GX7 has half the fraamerate of the E-M5, and no better tracking.
Aren’t the Panny team doing racing horses? To while away the lack of sales? LOLOL
frame rate? tracking? did you really just make a case for the ep5 with frame rates and unknown tracking speed?
BTW the gh3 runs tracking circles around the pen, if the gx7 is as fast…well you get it..or do you?
But youre right 2 extra frames per second pretty much guarantees the shot!!!!
Where you come from, do many people refer to the Japanese as “Japs”?
Never mond. It seems that you are not clever enough in the US to get the 20mm kit. I’ll ask the Japs directly.
Now I hope that you realise that the GX7 has half the fraamerate of the E-M5, and no better tracking.
Aren’t the Panny team doing racing horses? To while away the lack of sales? LOLOL
Congratulations. You just made the the most moronic post of the day….and there’s been a few !
Having an other imaginary fight with “Panny worshipers” you naughty boy…?
Wasn’t if for the blatant bad faith, I’d find it strangely incoherent, coming from someone like you, well known to value low budget lenses :p
So, what happened to the banner at the top of the homepage, that had all the cameras and lenses and links to buy them?
Sorry, the 100% samples look bad. Particularly for 16mp.
By ISO 1600, the details in the dark background have disappeared. Hope that someone else can do a better test.
The first 55 samples do not look spectacular to me. I own GX1, OMD, Fuji XE1 and Canon full frame gear so I have an idea of how different sensors render (especially in low light). One thing I can say that these are BETTER than my GX1 for sure. I’d say these are between GX1 and my OMD (OMD is still better) and not close to APS-C (XE1). I predict a DXO low light score in mid-to-high 700s, maybe low 800s, but most likely in high 700s.
mentioning dxomark explains everything about you
How good is in video ? Why he did not say anything about video ? Hello he should know everything change and now still camera goes with video ,altogether .
SO MUCH gear wanking, gosh, you people are sad.
I really couldn’t care less what this camera’s DXOwank score is, all I need to know is that it’s a quantum leap ahead from my E-PL1, this camera doesn’t need to beat FF, we already know that’s not happening. If I invest in another system it won’t be APS-C, it’s simply not worth it, once you realize all the benefits of m4/3 you either jump straight to FF or just go MF, so all the APS-C trolling going on on this post is really pathetic.
For me this camera is a godsend. Not because of High ISO, not because of gimmicks or looks but rather because of the user experience it seems to deliver. For me it comes to this simple truth: Just what other M4/3 camera can offer this set of features in this specific kind of body with corner EVF ? NONE
I’m at peace with the fact that no matter what the ISO junkies and DXO apostles say, this camera cannot be any worse than current models, much less my old E-PL1, and that’s more than enough, if I want more I’ll get the FF NEX or just go MF.
On the camera itself, I’m really happy to see that Pany has incorporated some Oly features so I’m relieved that the jump wont be that hard, I also see things I missed from my Canon years. Some of its features make me really confident that I’ll live with these camera for many years, stuff like Multi exposure, Picture-in-picture MF, Auto Panorama, Art filters (nice B&W ones too), etc…These little details are really comforting when you take into account the actual camera is already so great. The only worry I still have is the buil-in flash, so far no one has show if it tilts back for bouncing or not, otherwise this camera is 99% perfect FOR ME.
I’m amazed at how good the high ISO looks. Take a look at this @3200: http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_gx7/photos/panasonic_lumix_gx7_12.jpg
Also, if you look at the back wall in the High Iso test shots on that same page, they look great. (Face on the doll looks terrible, but that is likely due to being out of focus, aperture is f/1.7)
In my opinion this is looking significantly better than the OM-D as far as high ISO goes..
Maybe better hi ISO, but with limited time exposure (60 secs) as there doesn’t appear to a bulb setting available. That probably wouldn’t upset many people though.
I saw a review which says there is a 2 minute bulb mode… Sorry, can’t locate it now
Ok, I have located one reference to the bulb mode, see the link our friend Carl G posted on his site:
http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2013/08/panasonic-lumix-gx7-review-coming.html
So far, this camera has more ticks than any camera I’ve seen to date. Pity the all black with 20mm is not offered in all markets.
Other than that, well done Panasonic 🙂
According to photoreview.com.au, we in Australia are offered the following:
– Body only in silver or black
– Silver kit with the 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 MkII lens
– Silver kit with the 20mm f/1.7 MkII lens
– Black GX7 with Leica 25mm f/1.4 lens
I haven’t heard of the Leica 25mm f/1.4 offered anywhere else?
But we don’t get the black with 20mm which is a real shame. Also as far as I know, no stockist is taking preorders which is another bummer…
Some sharp photos here… http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1208
I don’t see anything about the removal of the AA filter though???
Same here…the GR with no AA gives insanely clear and sharp pictures (but i was seeeing them in DNG, dont know about the jpegs…)
The AF assist lamp seems to me to be at a really bad place as the reviewer was mostly covering it by his fingers.
Why tilting screen ??!!! It’s terrible !!!
OMD and EP5 have better high ISO
Well I certainly do hope the production model will be more impressive than that.
I want to see some RAW comparisons between the GX1 and the GX7. Its all well and good that the GX7 has a new engine blah blah, but this is aimed at getting great JPGs. What about the RAWs, thats whats important to me. If there is little difference in RAW quality there is little point in me getting one.