According to a new source (so take it with a grain of salt), the Fujifilm X-PRO2 will feature a dual SD card slot. The source also said the the release should be at the 2nd quarter 2015 (so from April to June).
I hear very different release dates (from very early 2015 to late 2015), so one more reason not to take this rumor as a fact. I hope to be able to update you soon via trusted sources… and in case there is somebody out there willing to share some more details, you know how to contact me.
Time to update the rumored specs list again.
Fujifilm X-PRO2 rumored specs list
(TS= trusted source / NeS =New Source / AS = Anonymous Source / AswN = anonymous source with nick-name / SRP = source who was right in the past, but not yet trusted / ORS = other rumor sites)
– APS-C sensor (TS + ASwN + AS)
– 24MP sensor (ASwN) – More than 16MP (AswN)
– dual SD card slot
– available early/first half of 2015/second quarter 2015 (NeS)
– tilt screen (AS)
– WiFi (AS)
– Non organic ASP-C X-Trans sensor (ORS)
– Price about 20% to 30% more expensive than the X-T1 (AS)
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Rumors are terrible for someone who wants to buy something this year but is constantly aware that new things are on their way 😉 Someone like me. I almost decided on buying the XT1, but I just like the format/design of the X-PRO more than the XT1 because it is flatter. I guess I have a few more weeks of new rumors to watch out for.
If you need a camera …buy a camera…if you don’t need one then wait…but who knows…the development of the X-Pro2 could be delayed and then the next rumour is it won’t be ready until 2016… so you could have more than just a few more weeks of rumours…and sometimes a rumour is just that
I also love xpro and x-e .. I switched to fuji because of flat and particular look which changed with xt1 🙁
I’d imagine that, by this point, the prices of used X-Pros have hit a stable point, so if you bought one now (at a nicely discounted price, BTW) you’d have a good idea of the price you’d get for it in the relative future, and I don’t think it would be that much less than what you’re getting now.
Dual cards underscores the “pro” in XPro. I hope they do it. But it seems like the really big, universal wish is some significant leap in sensor tech. If memory serves, that’s why this hasn’t been updated. Trouble is, everything else (Fuji models too) have gotten hardware based performance and usability enhancements that XPro has not. Which puts all the more pressure on them to deliver not only killer hardware but significant IQ improvements. Given how good things already are in that department, I can’t wait to see what they do! But sounds like I’ll be waiting anyway 😉
I’ll be waiting, too!
Excellent points. In addition to all this, Fuji has to keep the X-Pro competitive in price. We all want a D4s or 1Dx in that little X-Pro body but, none of us want to pay that price!
Nervous times at Fuji I would guess. They absolutely have to get this balance right in such a competitive space. Expectations are high. Perhaps too high.
I just hope when it comes out it will have a longer battery life. What use is dual card slots when you still have to change out batteries every couple of hours. I can’t possibly fill up a 32gb card w/o changing batteries 2 to 3 times unless you are using the “pro” for video, if thats the case go out and buy a dslr for that.
The point of dual memory cards is not more memory, but redundancy. I am not a pro, but imagine you make a living with shooting weddings and at the end of the day your card dies… finito. No pictures, no money, no recommendation. Maybe even a lawsuit for compensation. That is why pros need two card slots.
Good point. When I shoot a wedding or a payed event I use small cards and swap out often so over four to five hrs of shooting I’ll go through six to eight cards on my Nikons. Just a note, in the past 6 years I have never had a card failure (knock wood). I do clear, test and reformat all my cards as a matter of routine along with all my equipment before I go out. Maybe I’m just lucky.
Would be nice to not have to do that though. Be great to just have two large cards and never change them.
It has happened to me once. Only once, but I will never be skiing alone on a glacier faaar up north making turns between cornice debris again. Once is enough.. Pictures eould have been fun to have, but the memory of the good times lives on 🙂
Never had an issue either since I went partially digital about 8–10 years ago. That’s with CF cards, mostly SanDisk. I had an issue with a cheap SD card for a PDA some time ago, but never with the established brands (I have one other of the Calumet ProSpec series that has also been working flawlessly).
SD cards are a lot more flimsy though, and the contacts are exposed, so I’m more worried about those. Ideally, I’d love the Fuji X system to go CF since they are stronger and faster/bigger cards are always available as CF first (though there is a fairly reckless price premium, CF cards tend to be almost twice as expensive).
It’s good to hear something about the upcoming X-Pro2, so thanks, Patrick! It’s not that I always look for something to criticize, but where’s the big advantage of having dual card slot? Unless the X-Pro2 will have amazing performance in : 1) Autofocus. 2) Video (2k / 4k – one card for photos, one for videos) 3) Significant improvement in battery life and realistic display of battery level status. We’ll hope, wait and see.
There are three scenarios where this is useful:
1) Backup. Images are saved to two cards simultaneously. If one breaks/gets stolen/corrupted/accidentally deleted or formatted, you still have a copy on the second card.
2) Shooting raw images onto one card and JPEG to the other. In time-sensitive scenarios, you can then hand the JPEG card to a client for instant use on social media, giving them out to press or making selects, and you still have raw files for delivering processed high-quality images later.
3) In a solution like on my Nikon D300s, which has a CF slot and an SD slot, you can use both formats with the camera. Downside is you need to keep two different card types if you want to take advantage of scenarios 1 and 2.
So far, I have only found myself needing #3, which allowed me to use an SD card I had for my Fuji in the Nikon camera when I unexpectedly found myself having to transfer a few images to somebody’s computer, and that computer only had a built-in SD card slot.
I think it will have all those things as well, its just it we hadnt been hearing much about if it was going to have dual card slots or not and this addresses that. I expect it will have all the other things you are looking for too 🙂
Reading again the rumored specs written above, I’d say there’s no real
need for tilt screen. Many Pro cameras don’t have such tilt screens (it
saves some costs and it’s easier to WS the body and make it more
sturdy). Just a thought… If you get the Remote Control Wi-Fi App, like
you have on the X-T1, why the need for a tilt screen? You can put your
camera in the most difficult positions and have the live-view on your
connected mobile device. I presume the tilt screen era is over – for cameras that have the wi-fi Remote Control feature.
Do not agree at all. Its much easier using a camera hand-held in difficult positions using a tilt screen. I would not like to hold my camera in one hand and my phone in the other to be able to see what the camera sees. Think at a concert, or hand held low leve shooting… Much, MUCH easier to just tilt the screen… Of course, if you use a tripod, I agree, but not all shooting is with a tripod 🙂
I guess you’re right. I just enjoy the compactness and the sturdiness of a camera. I hope they’ll manage to do a tilt screen that complies with these aspects.
Have you worked with a X-T1? Te tolt screen is awesome and in no way feels flimsy. :/
And touch screen focussing to take the picture for insuspicious shooting. Very handy.
I fear the 24MP sensor in that many APS-C 24MP sensors fall apart at relatively low ISO’s. Great for perfect light shooting, not so great in low light. Hopefully Fuji has worked out some magic to help noise issues in low light.
I was just thinking the same thing…perhaps 18mp or 20mp would have been better.
Agreed, 16–18 megapixels is plenty. I’d rather have better lowlight quality and dynamic range than excessive resolution.
But apparently the mainstream market still tends to favor resolution/sensor size over the other aspects. In the X30 tests, everyone said the Sony RX100 was way superior due to its larger sensor. Not saying that is totally inaccurate, but nobody seemed to notice or care about the roughly 1.5 stops of DR difference (based on the sample images I saw, never tested either of these cameras myself).
Now, try to imagine X30 with similar technology and pixel density on a larger sensor => better high-iso performance.
You must not print your photos, or must not print very large. 16mp is not enough. 24 isn’t either, really.
At 36mp, you can barely print a 300ppi 16″x24″. But for a 20″x30″ at 300ppi you need a 54mp sensor. Hoping for 54mp full-frame in the near future (i.e. the same pixel density as 24mp on aps-c)…
I don’t agree at all. I’ve printed cropped images from my X100S on 50cm*75cm (about 20″x30″) and it looks super sharp. If you want to print it bigger, you probably want to take a step back to view the image. Similarly you look at a billboard from 50meters or more.
So in my opinion 16mp is more than enough for large prints. I would even guess billboards would be good enough.
The megapixel race is most interesting for computer-nerds; they zoom to 100% and complain that something is not sharp. (I do consider myself a computer-nerd)
In my experience; printing is extremely forgiving. When you have an image that is “fairly” sharp, the print looks “good”, better than expected.
I’ve made several 20″x30″ prints from 6mp photos (using an X10, no less) and everyone who’s seen them agrees that they look beautiful. You only need 300ppi if you’re planning to study the details up close.
Consider visualization distance.
If you ever looked closely at a billboard you would be surprised by it’s horrific print quality yet they look perfectly fine from 10m distance.
You examine your prints from a few inch?
You work in the CIA reconnaissance review department?
As long as it’s not a 2 year old 24, the overall picture should look about as clean as the current 16’s, even if it’s a little uglier at 100%, I’m happy with the current lowlight performance, adding in better daylight performance, bigger files and the potential to go back to bayer arrays would be welcome in my book ( the d7100 and a6000 seem pixel-dense enough that moiré isn’t an issue, so no need for messing around with iridient and darktable or ever think about demosaicing algorithms again)
At times I wish I had more and whats wrong with whats been made as in having a 24 mp and an older 16. New cameras don’t make all before it junk.
If the new PRO could get a low light performance of a 6D I would jump on Fuji like crazy.
This upgrade is still missing my most needed inclusion. Please put a GPS (Geotagging) system into the camera. I am tired of fiddling with adding it myself with phone apps and want to concentrate on photography not fooling with a smart phone. I need the geotagging info attached for my real estate and development site pictures. Also for long road trips to unknown lands, I want the record of exact locations added automatically as part of the image file. If not built in, I would be happy with an AAA mounted hot shoe unit for Fuji X Cameras, like the Canon unit. The other item I need is a fully articulating screen. (Like the Panasonic GH series and many of the older Sony A series DSLR’s) You can turn it towards the body to protect it from scratching, and I can hold it up to shoot over fences in work sites. Video with this type of screen is the only way to go. 2 card slots would be a great addition. I do not mind keeping the 16MP sized sensor or even a 12 or 14MP sensor, if it would improve low light noise for nighttime street pics. That’s it!
No GPS for me. It drains your battery.
Well, you could obviously switch it off like you can on a smartphone. I would find integrated or external GPS very useful as well, especially since the Fuji system is so great as a travel camera.
Current camera internal GPS modules are bad usually. They are inconsistent, they drain battery life, they often loose connection and then do not write any information to the image file or the Position is just wrong. If you switch your camera off and on, the camera needs to find the position again and this can take several minutes. Taking pictures at that time, no GPS data can be written into the image files.
“fooling” around with your smartphone is really a much better way. The finding the position is faster with AGPS data and you have much more control if your track is currently recorded. Then just create a track log with your phone and then add it via lightroom or other software to your images. To me internal GPS trackers are just a marketing hype for people who are not into GPS tracking and think this would be the perfect all-in-one solution.
Leet – Your points are all true, but I just want to get my stuff done and tagged. I am having just too many various little none Photography and Real Estate Broker Tasks to get done every day. I want to delegate this goal to an electronic little gadget. I do think this should be something that could easily be accomplished with a unit such as the Canon GPS Receiver
GP-E2. I have used this unit and it works without a snag. It uses it’s own AA batteries and can be moved from camera to camera. I wish Fuji would offer a similar unit to work with all the X cameras. Or, I would even love to see Garmin make these units for various brands of cameras. Thanks for your help.
Canon GPS Receiver GP-E2
Having just finished PPing photos from trip to Costa Rica with X-T1 & Nikon D7100 my impression was that I prefer the Fuji sensor more. That’s subjective as I used the Fuji for Macro / landscapes & the Nikon for birds/wildlife. The common denominator was the low light!
So I would be in no great rush to upgade my Fuji X-E2/X-T1 with a slightly better sensor.
But I would consider upgrading to an X-T2 with improved AF (speed, Number of phases detect AF points), Blown highlight blinkies, better flash and general speed/responsiveness. That may not justify all existing X-Pro1 users upgrading, but may attract new Fuji users (which is good for all Fuji users as it encourages continued investment by Fuji). Ask yourself whether you would really want to buy a new X-Pro1 today?
re: blown highlights. i’d personally prefer zebras. ohh how nice that would be.
With the time my wishlist came to slim.
This is what is left for futures X cam:
+XT1 features
+1/8000s
+Full manual video + improve video IQ
+IBIS
+Battery life
+compressed raw (24mpx can be giant!)
+HDMI- use external display for live view, this function is only for image playback.
that’s quite a jump from barely even having video at all. you’re asking for such particular video features from a photo-biased camera (when Fuji never even had a slight focus on video). a bit silly. it’s almost like asking for uncompressed raw out for the Pentax 645Z, and adobe cinema raw/prores for internal with different picture profiles for different gamma modes, and an xlr input interface adapter. (laugh)
Fujifilm makes some spectacularly high quality lenses for TV cameras (studio and ENG), as well as some outstanding cinema lenses. They just never had their own camera as far as I am aware.
I could totally see Fuji going for it and putting in real pro video features on par with the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera instead of competing with the crippled stuff that the rest of the photo market put into their stills cameras. Instant new market share.
I agree with Soyo
+ waterproof
+ AF equal or better than A6000 🙂
and… it looks like a description of Sony A9 (as I expect it).
But it’ll be a Sony with few native lenses…
so all we really have confidence in is that it will be APS-C
I have no doubt in that. Fuji has a roadmap filled with APS-C lenses..
summer of 2015 , that’s crazy slow delay , get it together fujifilm
Come on Fuji, why can’t you release a full frame sensor rangefinder for 1/4th of the price of a Leica? Why with all this retro love by consumers is there such a low interest in releasing such a camera? Is it such a small market that they wouldn’t make any money by releasing such a camera? Wouldn’t many of you want to buy a full frame PRO body rangefinder for the price of 6D? I don’t understand this. What am I missing?
Probably, because the change of the optical rule of all their system.
I’m convinced that APS-C will have a life like m4/3.
What do you mean by “life like m4/3” ?
In my mind, Fuji decided to create their own system based on a APS-C Sensor frame, so like Olympus did with m4/3, they will stay on that frame size, to go on FF means to loose optical range that they build and develop since 4 years now.
So, for me, Fuji X System will live outside of the Frame size Battle.
But, we will see when x-pro 2 come out.
ok ! I’m pretty sure they won’t go full-frame too with all lenses they developped.
Maybe on a fixed-lense body…
Perhaps, but the X100T is the proof that they will not go before end of next year.
A lack of native full frame lenses…….
Same could have been said when they just released x-PRO. How many lenses were there? It did not stop them from developing new lenses. Within the 2 year window they released so many of them. I’m with you though, why jump the ships now? I’m fine with APS-C senors, they don’t bother me but they still cant compare with the low light performance of the full frame sensor.
ohh.. god, no. i used to want the same. now, i realise the difference. it’s a ‘negligible difference’. the aps-c sensor body and fast lens combo is the perfect balance already. look at the FF sony lens counterparts (ie: 55mm f1.8) – any faster means an even bigger lens, knocking the balance of their combo off. i rather they skip FF and make a MF line.
I’m even fine with APS-C sensors as long as they get better with low light performance.
“Its such a small market that they wouldn’t make any money of it”
I think the main reason is that most people would end buying third party lenses. Sony may be able to do some money by selling only bodies because they manufacture their own sensors though.
What you are missing is that for serious photography the gear is the smallest part of the equation.
I’m sorry but that’s false. Gear is a tool which helps you achieve certain vision you have. You are not going to achieve certain looks with the same paint brush. You won’t draw tiny details with a 1 inch paint brush and the same goes with photography and it’s gear. You can go ahead and shoot beautifully composed shots even with an iphone it does not mean you can shoot a professionally shot wedding pictures with it, can you? I would love you to do so and see how practical is it.
If you are really good you can do a wedding with an iphone.. Has been done a few times. Might wanna check google for it. You will be surprised what creativity can do.
Nobody is talking about few staged shots. Go ahead run around a wedding hall with an iphone and shoot low light pictures with the nonexistent f1.4 lens and tell me how it went. Or go ahead and try to get those f1.4 DOF portraits with a f2.8 lens. You see , I’m tired of hearing people state that PRO photographers don’t care about gear which is false. Pro photographers get what they need in order to achieve their vision. If they need fast autofocus for sport shots they get the camera that has fast autofocus. If you need better low light performance you get the best sensor out there. See pros chose gear selectively , ask any pro filmmaker or photographer how they approach it from a commercial stand point. You chose gear based on the results you want to achieve. Not this nonsense you can shoot beautiful iphone pictures. You don’t see Greg Crewdson shooting with an iphone do you?
You are obsessed by the tools. Not by making the images. It’s no problem. Just another hobby 😉 Have a nice evening. Going to make pics now..
You just don’t get it. That’s why Peter Jackson and Steven Spielberg shoot their movies on expensive cameras. They are all just obsessed with gear. Right? Please…. You can’t achieve certain vision and aesthetic without the tools.
You want Fuji to launch a fullframe rangefinder for 1/4th of the price of a Leica. Why? If you can only make the perfect shot with a fullframe Leica you should buy one. Why should Fuji make one. Their X line of camera’s offers already more than most average users need. I don’t expect them to offer a fullframe. They have a complete roadmap of APS-C lenses. I have been photographing fullframe for many years and I can tell you the difference with APS-C is marginal nowadays. If you want a big difference than get a medium format camera 😉
Marginal for you, 1 or 2 stops of light make a difference for some. I have said somewhere else that I don’t mind the APS-C sensors as long as they improve a stop or two in a low light performance. The point of my comment was that there is obviously a huge gap in the market that can be filled with a cheap full frame rangefinder many people are waiting for and nobody seems to be interested in it. Hence I asked a question thinking that maybe there is just a too small of a market for it, then I think how many people bought x100 and it seems like the market is there.
“If you can only make the perfect shot with a fullframe Leica you should buy one. Why should Fuji make one. Their X line of camera’s offers already more than most average users need.”
You know , for average users an iphone quality is the most they need, yet camera companies continue to improve sensors and everything else. Same could have been said why did even Fuji bother releasing any cameras if Sony was already doing it? Why bother? Average consumer already had what they needed from Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, etc.
Maybe Canon didn’t even need to release 5D and 6D , they should have just released APS-C cameras in the range of $1000 and then the super expensive 1D for $6500 and leave a huge gap in there. After all average person is fine with a cheap T3. And the “pros” just can afford the 1D. Right?
My X-T1 performs better than the 5D MKII I sold last week. Did the 5D make worse pics? No. Does my X-T1 make better pics? No. Did I make my best pic ever with the Canon 350D? Yes. I even won a competition with it. I’m doing prints all the time so I know the differences on print between all sensors. It is marginal. I work with pro’s. They never have a gear debate. It is amateurs who aren’t satisfied with their shots constantly looking for other gear. It is you who doesn’t understand what it is all about.
You are still missing the point of the variety of the gear out there. Some cameras have better autofocus then others, some have better sensors, some have better viewfinders, some have ability to use better lenses, etc. The point is that whatever your job requires is you pick the tool for it. You can shoot an award winning picture with an iphone it does not mean that it is practical to shoot a wedding or a soccer game with one. You choose your gears based on the job you need to perform and pros know it. So don’t give me this nonsense that pros don’t bother selecting the cameras based on the job they are performing.
You asked for the cheap fullframe. I didn’t.. Why don’t you explain why you can’t make the pics you want..
I can take pictures with an iphone, question is, is it practical and is it the best tool for the job and for the style I like to work in. And the answer is no. While x100t is most likely all I probably need at this point I want a better low light performance, higher dynamic range and not as important but it would come handy higher resolution. In reality I am not asking for much. I am asking for a 6D image quality rangefinder. Is that too much to ask?
So APS-C doesn’t do it for you..
You seem to have reading problems. Did you not read the above where I have stated that I do not have a problem with a new improved x-pro2 with a APS-C sensor as long as it performs close to 6D in low light?
So what holds you back now?
The non existence of the camera I am talking about.
Do you really want Fuji to release a FF mirror less system ? Honestly, that’s about as dumb as Leica releasing their T range of APS-C camera’s. Why on earth would Fuji do that, an why do you think it would be 1/4th the price of a Leica? I can imagine the camera being relatively cheap, but not the lenses… It would mean a whole new range of big, heavy and expensive lenses which kind of nullifies the very reason people switch to Fuji in the first place.
If you want a FF rangefinder, buy a Leica. Or stick with your D800 or 5D or maybe A7 with its inferior lenses.
Now what would be interesting and far more probable is a FF X200 to take on the RX1.
I’ll take a FF x200.
X100/s/t lacking distance scale on the lense is sth that makes it rather useless as any kind of pro tool. Graet toy, yes, but nothng else. It kills whole concept of these cameras. Why no scale? what’s the point of not having it?
I half agree being I shoot film and FujiX100 as my only digital BUT with out “gear”, what do you use a pencil? a Polaoid? I am far from obsessed with “gear” but the comment of asking for a full frame Fuji XPro II is not asking for the moon unless you want to spend $10k on a Leica Monochrome or $7500 on a M240
Sony?
Tell me, where is that full frame rangefinder Sony camera you are speaking of?
A7 is mirrorless. Should work fine. Fuji is not going to release a full frame any time soon if they will ever. You can forget that. Maybe Sony will release your wanted camera next year..
A7 is a rangefinder? Since when?
close, but i would stick with my Fuji x100. Sony’s to me are without soul. too sterile. Though with some old manual glass they can work… too your earlier point- anything can work… me, i still prefer B&W film…
No Sony or Samsung here. I want a cam and yes I check specs but I buy it with the heart. Fuji cams have more soul indeed..
Ho ho ho. I’ve got the A7r and while it produces excellent images, it is a pile. I expect that the next generation will work better and be built to much better spec, but the current generation is pretty poor. And if you are coming from an X with a somewhat decent control layout, the A7r is, while sometimes more straightforward (shutter speed controlled via one, not two controls), and has better live view, the thing is loud, it induces shake, and it is ugly.
I don’t like ugly.
Neither do Leica.
Friend of mine is a serious photographer and owns a Sony. He makes the same remarks…
Sjoerd, spare us the self-righteous ‘gear doesn’t matter’ rant. Seriously, it is sooo tired. Here’s a concept…some of us have some mad photography skillz but we STILL have ideas about what kind of gear we like. Besides, if the gear doesn’t matter what are you doing on a gear rumors site!
Most mad photography is not to be found on gear sites. I’m not on this site because of the gear btw.. But I only responded on the “Come on Fuji” comment. If you guys like to collect gear instead of doing photography it is fine for me. It is a nice hobby also. My father collected stamps as a hobby but never made a stamp in his life. Still he had a nice collection..
You love to assume things about people. Just because someone is interested in new equipment they must be
a gear collector. Yeah ok…
I take lots of pics Sjoerd, how about you??
https://www.flickr.com/photos/60455482@N00/
Nice photography.
Very nice!!
Do you really want Fuji to release a FF mirror less system ? Honestly, that’s about as dumb as Leica releasing their T range of APS-C camera’s. Why on earth would Fuji do that, an why do you think it would be 1/4th the price of a Leica? I can imagine the camera being relatively cheap, but not the lenses… Since Fuji wouldn’t compromise on IQ, it would mean a whole new range of big, heavy and expensive lenses which kind of nullifies the very reason people switch to Fuji in the first place.
If you want a FF rangefinder, buy a Leica. Or stick with your D800 or 5D or maybe A7 with its inferior lenses.
Now what would be interesting and far more probable is a FF X200 to take on the RX1. That would be one hell of a camera.
it’s odd though that they would give a rangefinder body a dual card slot over their slr’esque body considering the roles these two body types have played part in, in history.
It’s not a “rangefinder” body. It’s just a boxy thing.
The biggest selling camera model in history- the Instamatic- looked like this, and had no rangefinder.
“Release second quarter” …… but only if the new 24 MP SONY sensor with FUJI CFA is ready and FUJI is allowed (contractually) to use it. This implies half a year of waiting I suppose.
Rest of the camera is already finished ( focuspoints all over the frame, better AF and tracking, superfast processor, IBIS, etc., it all has been said). Just guessing.
OK- as I live with my X100, and have been waiting for the XPro II (or what ever they will call it) they will follow up the XPI with a Hero XProII or Zero. I hope it was worth the wait- Fuji if its not full frame- you really missed a great opportunity to go after the Leica MM & M240 overpriced market…. Hero or Zero. Which will it be Fuji??
In your case it is going to be “zero”. They’re not going to split up their already niche market with another lens lineup and mount (x is not big enough for full frame).
i hate realist!
The only things that need upgrading I care about are the new digital rangefinder patch, viewfinder with dioptric adjustment and more accurate framelines, accurate zone focus scale, faster autofocus and back-button AF. And please don’t use that god-awful ugly grip the X100T has (ruined the retro look of the series; it’s too modern now).
I don’t need a sensor upgrade, though it might be nice. I could see myself using the mobile device WiFi as well. I have an iPad and an iPod, but no cell phone.
But even with all these bells and whistles, I won’t be upgrading from my X-Pro1 anytime soon. I am perfectly happy with it and don’t need GAS to take better photos.
And as for full-frame, I agree it’s wiser to tap the medium format market with Sony’s 645-ish sensor with no OLPF, X-Trans color array, leaf shutter lenses for flash sync and an EVF only that expands on the magnification and resolution of the X-T1. The world’s first digital mirrorless medium format camera? Yes, please. Just skip the 135 size “full frame” altogether. It would cramp current X series style (i.e, reasonably-sized bodies and lenses). Mirrorless medium format is uncharted territory and would just as revolutionary, if not more so, as when the X100 was first introduced in 2011. One question: would you want an X-E1 body style or X-T1 body style?
Though this would be a dream camera, I’m happy shooting my 120 Bronica ETRS with Ektar, Portra 400, HP5 and TMAX 100 for the full MF experience.
And I recommend releasing a Fuji X-MF1 (?) initially with four leaf shutter lenses that are equivalent in 645 terms to 40mm, 80mm and 150mm and a 180mm 1:1 macro. Don’t know the equivalency factor of Sony’s MF sensor, only that “normal” is about 65mm.
Would stick with their own sensor technology rather than Sony’s. Just my two cents. And there’s already a medium format mirrorless even though it is quite unorthodox looking.
Neopulse,
Correct me if I’m wrong, but ever since the inception of the X series, they have used Sony sensors and just changed the color array layer.
Yes, but what primarily what I was referring to is them using a sensor that is already in 3 major companies already. Plus Hasselblad glass is essentially Fujinon so why would they need to do the same thing as the others? They’re doing well on their hill as it is. Making a whole new Fuji-System lenses for medium format system to be able to use a sensor that already exists isn’t much of an incentive for people to switch. I wouldn’t switch that’s for sure if given the choice. I like the Pentax medium format so far and soon LS lenses will be made for it and the Hasselblad system H5D system just recently dropped dramatically in price which makes it far more affordable than before. So why would they bother?
In my book, It’s the form factor of the camera that is important, the size, handling and weight, that is the key… not the sensor. A Mamiya 6 styling with hybrid finder would be far different than a clunky Pentax or Hassie. Add to that smaller lenses made for short throw to the sensor sans mirror box, and I thing you will be surprised at the savings in weight not just for the camera but for a kit of say, 3 lenses. Handling would be a dream. The best camera is the one that gets used. Big heavy cameras tend to sit more than heavier ones. That is the beauty of the Fuji X series — light weight and ease of handling make you want to shoot with them. They re-inspire. Such would be the case with a Fuji X style medium format.
Well the form factor is quite subjective to the person who holds it. If it does go mirrorless yes there will be a reduction in weight, but chances are Fuji is not going to go that far yet in my opinion. They probably have a no contest agreement with Hasselblad so that Fuji can keep producing lenses for the brand. This even dates back to the X-Pan and earlier. That is a camera though I’d like to see go digital.
Agreed with all your specs, but I would like a Mamiya 6 body style with an even higher resolution hybrid finder than the X-Pro2 and X100T! I would accept a version with a moderate wide to telephone zoom with no interchangeability, which could be expanded upon later with a full line of medium format lenses from Fuji.
smarphone is the real way
You’ve never shot mf or large format film have you?
Digital interchangeable lens mamiya 6 or 7 (leaf shutter please!) <$10K?,<$5K? would be amazing! I'd sell my motorcycle for one.
Xa XA Very nice dream and then? weak up
Hopefully this will have tethering to my Mac+CO
To be honest 30% moren than xt1 will be hard to sell given currenty a7 price point.
For such a long wait and not so revolutionary changes (I presume), at least they could sell it for 5% more than X-T1 price, not more. 🙂
+1. I concur. Fuji needs to do better, much better!
If you don’t let Fuji make some money, they will be no longer, then there will be no toys… what would you say then? Really, boys… There has been roughly 4x inflation since the early 1970s. So a $1600 camera body today would have cost $400 then. In 1975, I bought Nikon F2 mechanical camera bodies for $400, equivalent to the price of a Fuji X-Pro2 at $1600. All the Nikon could do is accept manual lenses, transfer f/stop to camera mechanically, and set shutter speeds with a match needle meter. And you still had to buy color film and processing! What the hell is the matter with you guys? Get real. The cameras offered today are mechanical and technological wonders that pay for themselves in film cost savings after only 2,000 shots or so. Think about that before you piss and moan about price. We’ve never had is so good!
I really think Fuji painted themselves into a corner with the X-trans sensor.
And with the post processing companies(namely Adobe) not making any further effort to improving the raw conversions…
And Fuji refusing to address the issue…
Looks like what we get now is as good as it’s gonna get.
Damn shame really.
Agreed ~ Fuji should have provided their own raw converter long ago. It is a no brainer.
As for the new Xpro-1:
I think it’s gonna be a hard sell over the XT1, which will be further discounted by then.
And that’s coming from an OVF lover.
Things like wifi, tilt screen & dual card slots are standard features even on budget cameras these days.
Fuji- Please bring on the Full Frame models already!
I am not sure if it needs to be full frame, though I would have been excited about a 36mp full frame sensor in an X-Pro 2 – that would be beautiful. However, they do need to step it up in image quality, at base ISO at least. Even though I prefer shooting with my X-Pro 1, the files from my DP Merrills are superior at lower ISO settings. If they introduce it with the organic sensor, it could be interesting. But, without a Fuji-based raw converter, I won’t be too excited over another X-Trans Sensor.