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You can find a couple of 3.200 ISO images on the korean SLRclub forum (Click here). Looks very clean to me! I am going to buy that camera for my little brother 🙂
I know it’s a bit to early to make a final judgment about the HIgh-ISO performance of the camera. Anyway feel free to share your opinion:
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excellent!
not bad! let’s see and wait which is better… GF3 or G3? hmmm…. can’t wait.
OR EP-3/EPL-3? June will be a busy month… 🙂
that’s what I’m waiting for, too! Gosh, Panasonic / Olympus rivalry, haha!
Great! Panasonic’s sensors are improving. Olympus deserves better.
ISO 3200 looks great, but how does ISO 100 look then? Hopefully it’s not sacrificed on one end just to benefit the other.
Well, there is no ISO100 anymore, which kind of answers your question.. :/
Hoping that … Olympus can get the new sensor from panasonic…
Yes good images. Are they out of the camera, or is noise reduced using software?
they look good for a resized ones
Yeah good, but on the last ones you can see the luminance noise has been pulled out on the raw conversion… so No cant say if it is good or bad. Images in decent light like the first examples are gonna be ok on most cameras at that ISO.
+1
One thing is turning up the ISO when THERE IS light, another very different is doing the same when THERE IS NOT light. On the last pic I see the distinct “anemic” look i’ve come to grow used to when using my gf1 in poor light – low saturation and contrast, muddy shadows. On the other hand, a gf1 pic at ISO 3200 and low light is absolutely useless, now at least the pic remains at the “usable” level.
Admin, Sorry for the OFF.
As the US price is much lower I’ll put an American friend buy this camera for me.
Would you find out for me what chances I have to manage the camera software upgrade for European firmware – of course, in order to have video in PAL instead of NTSC? Is that possible directly, at the time of the first official firmware upgrade or the camera should be hacked?
Thanks!
Ops, I am not sure about that. And I don’t know if it will be hacked (my guess is YES). I will ask Vitaly the hacker.
Thanks!
With all the hard work that’s being done on the GH2, I seriously doubt. Has the GF2 been hacked yet? I don’t think so…
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?175-Panasonic-GH-Cameras
Well… and are you sure that uploading an European firmware to a US issued G3 camera is impossible in “legal” ways?
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Look at the skin of the fruit.. smeared out. I just wish a photographer would start a good site for new cameras where you could download RAW files taken by a good photographer in real world situations so you could download and compare yourself.
isn’t that what you get at dpreview.com? they have jpeg samples on their G3 preview article, they’ll have raw samples once the full review is out.
Imaging Resource has got plenty: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DMCG3/DMCG3A.HTM
At a first glance the images look pretty good. But as they don’t carry the original “out-of-cam” EXIF header and are only available in low resolution, there might have been applied a large amount of postprocessing. For a conclusion about the factual high ISO quality, we need to compare RAW images sent through one and the same RAW processor.
At least it keeps us curious to see more.
Actually there are RAW files available on the net.
http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-1232/compact-panasonic-g3-bruit-electronique-12.html
Problem is there is no software to process them for the moment.
you might try to process G3 RAW files with XnView. You can export them as TIFF, and postprocess them. This gives a first impression of the quality, but you’ll see minimal JPEG-artefacts (conversion via internal JPG format, i think) and colored haze, white balance errors, etc. But the overall quality of noise can be seen quite good. It’s not that bad, for it sure can compete with GH2.
The raw files from focus numerique are very disappointing, but probably accurate. It would lead me to believe that the images from The Korean SLR Club Forum are questionable or have been post processed to a large degree.
IIRC Panasonic in an interview mentioned that most improvements of G3’s IQ come from JPEG processing – RAWs are unchanged. There might be more to it, but that how I understood the wording.
The photos over at the SLR Club Forum seems to be ripped from dpreview.com.
You could compare, for postprocessing, the Korean samples with the “original” samples at http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/panasonic-dmc-g3-preview-samples if you so like.
EDIT: Aaaargh! Hit the wrong reply link. :-/
This was in reply to “Bob B.”
So far so good, Admin :D. Let’s hope Olympus can get/make modern sensors for next PENs either.
Dcraw can develop those files. I tried using -k 127 and it seems to work, only the colour matrix is missing. To my eye ISO performance is like one stop and a third better than that of the current 12 mpx sensor.
At IR you can also find raw files from studio shots at all ISO (http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DMCG3/DMCG3THMB.HTM).
This sensor is at least 1 f-stop better than the old one at high ISO, while improving resolution too. I’d say it’s also a bit better than the one in the GH2, and in general the G3 has better white balance and colors than the GH2.
For a 4/3 sensor to be competitive with APS-C it needs to be about 1 f-stop behind. The old 12MP one was about 1.5 f-stops behind, but this one is about 1/2 an f-stop behind, which means it’s actually 1/2 stop better (as long as you have lenses that are about 1 f-stop faster to match the DOF).
So now that the sensor problem is solved and new cameras will come out with it, we just need the fast glass to take full advantage of this system. 42mm f/1.2 anyone?
very conscious comment. But I am afraid it’s pro- or semi-pro point of view only. one need some photo education to start thinking this way, and most of shooters just.. shoot these megapixels
Anyway looks m43 catched competition (until next NEX 🙂
Michal
EXIF data from the photos
Make Panasonic
Camera Model Name DMC-G3
Exposure Time 1/125
F Number 1.7
ISO 3,200
Date/Time Original 2011:05:05 22:38:32
Exposure Compensation +0.33
Max Aperture Value 1.7
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Light Source Unknown
Flash Off, Did not fire
Focal Length 20.0 mm
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
You can’t tell from these samples as the subject does not pose enough of a challenge. It’s close up which makes it easy plus not a lot of dark areas. Too easy.
It’s nice but I hope Olympus can make modern sensors for next PENs.