This is a list of rumors that don’t have anything to do with Panasonic and Olympus. But every once in a while I post a summary of mirrorless news because almost every Micro Four Thirds user is interested to see how the competition is developing their own mirrorless system.
Samsung:
My friend Andrea (X-rumors.com) made an incredible leak! He found the whole Samsung NX lens road-map for the years 2011, 2012 and 2013! I would love to see some of those lenses for Micro Four Thirds too and you?
Sony:
Nex-7 will be announced by early 2011 (SonyAlphaRumors)
Not a rumor but Luminous Landscape posted an interesting article about the “Mirrorless, Video Convergence”.
P:S.: There is no new rumor about Canon or Nikon mirrorless systems…
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All those beautiful and fast primes on the samsung NX lens roadmap! They should send a copy of this roadmap to Olympus.
That’s what I thought! I hope this will push Panasonic and Olympus to release new high quality lenses…
Olympus should first bring out serious mirrorless body along instead of plain lens or another retro camera.
Sure it’s better to bring out finished product than half-assed one but if they don’t get out something during winter soon there won’t be much of a market position left for them when all uninspired dozenware of big marketing department makers saturates mirrorless markets.
(Matsushita-Panasonic, Samsung and Sony all make even Canon and Nikon look like small companies)
WOW
Samsung has plans for a 28-70/70-200 combo (14-35/35-100 for us)
That is some real news, they must have a Pro mirrorless camera in the works
competition is ramping up oly and panny better get on it, panny has a very very big head start
The mirrorless market looks like a promising one
I hope oly plays a big part
Wow! Samsung plans to come out with a whole gammut of lenses. 50mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4!!! Olympus/Panasonic I hope your watching!
Yes. I am watching 🙂
Ahhh … but are you doing?
Of course Samsung should quick up because they must catch up. See their lens lineup now and see the Pana/Oly’s. And this is a roadmap. The really exciting 18-50 f2.8 will not come until 2012. Even the 35 f1.4 in two years. I believe by then, Pana/Oly still have better lens lineup than Samsung.
Panny might but there are still question marks with Oly. They don’t even have a lens roadmap for 2011 yet. Meanwhile Samsung is releasing the 16mm f2.8, 70mm f2.8 and 90mm f1.4 in 2011!
They must have one! It’s just kept more confidentiality!
So what is the point of promoting the m43 as a future pro system – without giving any details about lenses? Who the hell needs a camera system without lenses??
The leak was a great strategic move on part of Sammy.
But not many will buy a camera on the basis of roadmap. I am pretty sure that in 2011 m4/3 will get more great lenses. And most important NX won’t get a nokton. 😀
The interesting thing about this roadmap is that it illustrates just about all the voids in EVERY current mirrorless system!
None of the OEMS have any lenses faster than f/1.7. None of them have any medium teles faster than f/2.8, or wides faster than f/2.5. None of them have any constant-aperture f/2.8 zooms. These are the lenses that serious photographers would want to see in the catalog before committing to a mirrorless system… because they are the lenses that demonstrate a manufacturer’s commitment to its system.
Samsung could have constructed this diagram simply by drawing boxes in all the obvious holes. Others could be drawing exactly the same boxes, but their diagrams haven’t been leaked; let’s hope that’s the case! (And that goes for non-OEMs too. Hello, Sigma?)
Unfortunately, unless there is a serious change in sensor technology, faster lenses will not perform well, due to high angle rays (this problem is much worse for mirrorless, and here they are complaining for normal DSLR!)
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/an_open_letter_to_the_major_camera_manufacturers.shtml
So do you think they will release lenses that show “how bad” their sensor is? I hope that back-illuminated sensors will have much less of this problem, but with the current crop, there is no way that we’ll get anything faster than f/1.7 (for normal/tele) and f/2.8 for wideangles (which of course are affected by this problem more)
Nice link. Thanks.
Intersting article. The last diagram -as i understood it- suggests that a lens that is one T-Stop faster is in fact just 0.7 to 0.8 stop faster, due to the sensor; but does that justify the conclusion “one might be better off purchasing smaller aperture lenses and increasing the ISO”? I guess it’s difficult to answer since the article doesn’t really tell us how much that correlates with the f-stops- but f-stops are actually the data we know about the lenses we use. But maybe I am wrong and didn’t fully understand the article?
Open letter to the open letter
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-response-to-open-letter-to-major.html
Guess I might buy a NX system in 2013…
Haha so true!
While the lensmap is interesting, the most promising lenses aren’t forecast until 2012 or 2013. That is a long way off for Panny and Olympus to crank out great lenses. The 2010-2011 map shown isn’t that exciting.
> My friend Andrea (X-rumors.com) made an incredible leak!
Wow. Just wow. Best imaginable marketing move Samsung could have ever made to fight Sony and Pannay.
It cost them zero.
Gives immediate credibility boost for the system.
And with all the cheap win, they are not even really obliged to deliver on it!
Agreed, so simple but yet brilliant move by sammy
Lots of vapor coming from this roadmap, will only believe it when the lenses start rolling out of production.
Don’t really know why, still prefer to Japanese product > Korean product, at the LCD TV segment too. Perhaps Japanese is the electronic gadget kingdom.
If that Samsung roadmap materializes, with 20 lenses NX will be quite well rounded system.
But what it lacks is a fast wide – sub 20mm sub F2 prime. What’s the point of 16 F2.8 when there’s 16-50mm F2.8 zoom? The prime should be faster.
Anyway, what Samsung lags in are bodies, not lenses, as opposed to Sony. They need new sensor as well. Bad high ISO and no stabilized sensor means they have to make all these fast lenses, but with better sensor and IBIS, they’d be leading the mirrorless.
In fact, if Sony and Samsung shared the mount, by 2013 it’d be number one interchangeable lens system. Maybe Pentax could return to cooperation with Samsung after all?
As for NEX-7, it seems that Sony’s playing “me too” with Panasonic and that it’s going to be a GH2 copy. Too bad they didn’t realize that the distinguishing factor of their A-mount line was IBIS and that without it E-mount is just another APS-C mirrorless system. If Samsung improves its bodies ( and it must ), with twenty lenses compared to Sony’s ten, who’s going to choose NEX?
And yes, there is a new Nikon rumor 🙂 :
http://nikonrumors.com/2010/11/21/is-this-the-new-nikon-evil-camera.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NikonRumors+%28NikonRumors.com%29&utm_content=My+MSN
Who cares. Korean electronics is cheap shit. Samsung always play follow the leader with their Japanese rivals… New lenses won’t help if their image sensors continue to suck… Even Pentax dumped them as their CMOS image sensor supplier and went back to Sony after the problems with the K-7… If only Olympus would move on from Panasonic and join with Sigma/Foveon it could spark some much needed innovation into future 4/3rds products.
I am not a pro photographer and have little knowledge but if I understand properly :
– Davide provided the real answer why m43 have shown so recluctant in providing fast lenses : the light loss “in the micro tubes” due to CMOS sensor technology
– Without sensor (r)evolution, no way hoping better than 1/1.7
– Mirrorless real problem lies in the lack of distance between the back of the lens and the sensor
– Canon and Nikon should feel confident with keeping the “pro” market
– Should Samsung have no new technology, then this roadmap would just be plain intox !!!
Maybe back lighted or CCD sensors ? I believe that Panasonic and Olympus would have seeked this solution if relevant ?
With best regards
Samsung has been talking a big game recently, we’ll just have to see if they actually deliver on any of this. I have my doubts.