UPDATE: Zone-10 can’t believe this specs are true. They made a list with all rumored special features of the new E-5. But that’s only speculation. The specs below are probably correct 🙁
New rumors about the E-5 do confirm the specs we posted few days ago:
- Magnesium weather proof body
- Dual memory card slots (not sure if CF+SD or 2xSD)
- 12MP sensor
- 11 AF points
- 6fps
- Image stabilization
- Anti-dust feature
- Some kind of a rotating/tilting LCD display
- HD video @ 720P with 30fps
- Built-in wireless flash
- 100% viewfinder coverage
Source: photorumors
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No revolution then? I thought it was supposed to have surprising new features…
I believe that everything that 4/3 needs right now, is serious image quality upgrade.
Admin, something revolutionary inside the body? sensor maybe?
i can only see an E-3 camera with video a 2Mpx more
You’re right E-3 + 2MP= E-5. Makes sense 🙂
Why do everybody think it’s going to be named E-5?
Or is it just that during rumour times, this has been established as the name for the E-3 successor?
I doubt Olympus has communicated the name yet.
Huge disappointment. I feel as if I’ve been conned by Olympus – there is NO revolution here, let alone any evolution.
If these really are the specifications, do they really believe current users will part with $1000+
How dare they be so arrogant.
# Image stabilization
# Anti-dust feature
Ohhh, and a built-in wireless flesh, real cool new features!
This is quite a disappointment! If this is all oly can do with the Four Thirds system then the system is dead. bye bye oly, I hope you sell some pens and endoscopes…
photorumors site say:
“Those are suppose to be some of the basic specs for that camera:”
highlight on BASIC
i have a feeling it will have the same SLT translucent tech as Sony, only that Sony beat them to it.
100% viewfinder coverage sounds great in my ears, and the larger display with higher resolution is also great. These are only basic specs and they sound promising.
This should be the E-3v (video)
Really boring specs.
Reading these totally out-dated specs., I think that Olympus R&D must be full of idiotic ideas that make R&D believe this boring spec might have a chance to grab expected market share.
Even I currently use E-system and PEN for life photo, when I read these recent rumors and releases from OLY, I am becoming affirmative to sell all my 43 and m43 gadgets soon. Due to my frustrations, none of my friends will give OLY a try because OLY’s failed release in this Photokina.
OLY seems very arrogant and infantilized that wrongly evaluate these specs. could keep their current users. I think this is fairly the specs. for 18 months ago.
To keep current users and to present the ability for PRO body, the bottom lines are:
→ Full HD @ 1080p
→ 14MP sensor
→ Size down to relativelly smaller than E-30 (e.g. PENTAX K-7)
→ 7 plus frames per second
→ Better and expanded DR
→ Faster and acurate AF in low light environment
If OLY user really feel un-happy about this new pro body, then there is totally no chance for OLY to grab any new users given SONY alpha is obviously advanced in most aspects.
That’s OLYMPUS we know…
The consumer needs more bells and whistles, but for the professional photographer the important features expected from the E5 are the same as always, a strong, light, ergonomic and durable body, a big and bright viewfinder, an improvemente in the continuous focusing system and a sensor that delivers good colors, better dynamic range and better ISO performance (if shooting sports), all the rest is superfluous and it can be no revolution there, cameras are cameras, nothing more, so if this one delivers one or two stops more of dynamic range and ISO and improves C-AF compared to the E3 it will satisfy the audience who is the target.
i suggest we wait for the FINAL specs before we get angry or frustrated. otherwise, prepare to spend the coming 2 weeks in anger hehehe
i’d wait for the real thing before reacting. after all the rumors do tell of different cameras being tested. so who knows which is which at this point?
WOW! Someone who isn’t being arrogant and infantile about this rumor. And right on the money!!! Can we have more of your comments please?
anyway, did anyone bother to check the photorumors site?
the post seems to be more of an assumption than anything. they didnt state where they got the specs from. only said its what is “expected” to be the “basic specs”.
Remember that this is just rumors! This specs. dont tell us much about the E-5 qualities. The rumors floating around are normally leaked with Oly approval though, so you can expect the basic info to be correct.
more on comments zone10 for the next flagship:
http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=535&Itemid=1
sorry, i meant more comments on Zone10 for the next Oly Flagship:
http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=535&Itemid=1
Are photorumors just regurgitating the info from this site? I reckon so.
Another crappy unit is the next e3 is like the low light king d3s if dat will be the case I’ll buy the next e3 but if ur going to level with d300s lol d90 is better lol well I rest my lens now with 43 unit good bye
Admin, feedback to your sources to feedback to their sources (Hopefully someone important in olympus) that they must be crazy. For their sakes, I really hope their high ISO, AF, DR and image quality is much better.
What a crappy news
Goodbye 14-35, 12-60, 50-200, 50mm, 25mm, and 2kit Lens And my epl1 with kit and 17mm… Very unless
May I suggest you wait until after Sept 14 before you jump ship
Or until we hear more about this 15mp concept with lcd like mirror that is rumored for 2011
see: http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-more-about-the-olympus-e-5-the-puzzle-game-olympus-also-has-a-translucent-tecnology/
I am interested in the 14-35mm or 12-60mm or 50mm if you are for real though…
But I encourage you to stay ship, and if you own those lenses… you know why
whats the use of staying if the feeling is different… its like Olympus has no devotion with the end users like us… honestly canon has devotion on there end users… and nikon has made there end users happy like the d3100.. there drive to win is different…
Guys have you ever realized nikon is also making a hard to find spec like there next d300s and d90 and d700 but the rumors of our format is making me crazy I love my Olympus camera and lens especially with outdoors photos but it seems I’m now decided that Olympus is good bye for me… Crappy unit geeee
Wait until after Sept 14
OMG WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ART FILTERS??????
For a second there I thought you were quoting the E-30 specs…
That’s pretty darn disappointing… to say the least
If this are really the specs I will sell my equipment and go to Nikon.
well, if this specs are correct – the sensor must be “exceptional”, otherway will Olympus loose the battle
The price has to be right, then I will buy this camera. I’m on a E-520 now, it will be an upgrade, it just mustn’t be an expensive upgrade.
To be frank 6 fps may be good enough for DSLR two years ago, but 6 fps now is not so attractive
I heard that the shutter count is unlimited shoot lol
Oh, go to the Olympus forums and the main supporters are in denial, which is of course normal cultish behavior. It is not only in Olympus camp of course, but also in others.
As for me, well, was never an Olympus user, except for E-PL1 which is really their best camera in terms of sharpness.
Wait a minute! Where are the art filters? How disappointing! I want artfilters, can you hear me Olympus? Now listen: If you do not deliver the art filters I am going to say it to my mummy and you’ll see!!! I shall NEVER buy an Olympus camera again unless you give me at least four new artfilters!!!
Something is very wrong here a camera like that as a flagship will drive customers away. Is this a sign that development of the FT system has slowed down to a crawl? I need to source a replacement for my E5 and 510 as their both showing lots of wear from years of use but this offering is poor at best. I never thought I would move system as I love my lenses like children but if the body fails to preform in this rapidly evolving market I may not have a choice. It’s a sad day for Olympus pro users.
It was 8fps, now its 6fps
So I should leave my E3 for 11pt focus 2+mp 1+fps and 30fps720video?
This sounds like a decent E50 not a E5
This camera could have been released when they announced the E30 or E620
This is very disappointing
IQ and low light AF and DR better be out of this world
what? no it must be e620 replacement!if that spec true for e5, then i wont buy it, wait for gh2, and some news from semipro nikon body, bye olympus
I’m pretty sure this specs are totaly wrong. Oly makes sure noone gets the specs before oly decides it. Even 43 rumors.
I hope your right
Without knowing about the quality of the sensor there’s really not much meat in bashing this yet to be announced camera, is there?! So calm down and let’s wait what it can do.
Besides, it will probably be priced in the same range as the E-3 was priced initially. Do you know any other body in that price range that is that sturdy and weather sealed? No? Me neither. Together with the Zuiko Pro lenses you got a decent camera you can use in pouring rain, and the investment is relatively small.
IF these are the real specs (and that’s a big IF), then I will stay with the E3 and wear it out until it’s toast. Then depending on the state of 4/3rds by that time, I may have to say hello to Canikon 🙁
My E3 is aged, oly know we have waited long enough, They could sell soooo much SHG glass if they came out with a body that can tame them, and the E3 did an OK job of that (many +’s for weather seal though), and after so many years I hope this E5 doesn’t make the same mistake
Dont jump ship yet anyone
Im glad to hear you will stick with oly until your E3 is dead, But oly is walking on thin ice. People are get angry
Its not like people are demanding cameras that are not possible
I don’t understand
13 days until we know for sure
BTW, your screen name is funny 😀
If this rumor is true, I will quit the fouthirds; if this rumor is false, I will quit this site. 😉
Is the FT5 rumors?
Almost 🙁
A lot of people here are quick to over-react and assume. This is still a rumor. Decide when everything’s out in the open.
My first camera was Olympus more than 30 years ago. I was loyal Oly user, since. But now what? My E-3 is kinda obsolete and E-5 specs are 1 year old (at least). Where are those “never seen before on DSLR” features?
Yes and where are the ARTFILTERS?
More than PASM on a pro-spec camera? Nice joke…
We waited 3 years for this?
You mean no artfilters? Don’t even mention it otherwise I’ll jump the sheep!
What a drama !!! 😀
If this is the new Olympus flagship i’ll quit photography 😉
Run to camera shop for buy the last E-3 quick on!
As others have mentioned, there is no way Oly will release a successor to the E3 with and additional 2MP and 720p. It simply does not make sense.
The article on Zone10 makes some good points, including the fact that with each release of a pro body Oly has done something(s) more. Things that were not available on any other pro SLR. That included dust reduction on the E1, LiveView with tilting LCD on the E3, and others. Why wait 3 years of development only to marginally increase the capabilities of the E3? They could have released the rumored specs 1.5 years ago and called it the E3s or E3MkII like Nikon and Canon do. Then take peoples money again this yeah, with an E5 and stick the GH2 sensor in it. How easy is that!?
Logic tells us there is more to it than what we’ve read here. These specs are probably purposely leaked to keep us losers busy typing at work.
What if this is a 12mp sensor, but has crazy dynamic range like Zone10 speculates? Maybe from Kodak or from Fuji like the EXR. (I would say Sigma, but they wouldn’t give Oly their best sensor whn the SD15 is still using the old Foveon.) Imagine a sensor with 15+ stops of DR and great low light ISO with one of the SHG lenses in front of it! This would move alot of people to notice.
Again, this is all speculative. But it just makes no sense to mildly upgrade a Pro camera after 3 years and not expect to be slaughtered by the media and your competitors. In fact, this would even hurt m4/3! There are may Oly users right now, that if insulted by a lame upgrade to their Pro body would go to Pany, Sony, or wait for the big two for a mirrorless system.
Lets see what happens. Im willing to bet there is more than meets the eye here…
Aaaaaah, the voice of reason. Yes, despite my rather grumbly rant on page 1, I will wait.
“Logic tells us there is more to it than what we’ve read here. These specs are probably purposely leaked to keep us losers busy typing at work.”
Your wisdom shines
Yup, they could have released an E-3 MkII at the same time that they released the E-30.
+1
I agree that these specs don’t make sense. Admin is just reporting what he is told. These are rumors, not advanced news.
After all my disappointments over the rumored specs, I’ll just wait now, see what “Olympus” says and make my decisions based on that.
These specs doesn’t make any sense at all, seeing that Olympus has always introduced something new in the market with its flagship cameras. Sincerely, I hope would be true this story: http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=535&Itemid=1
MERGE THE TWO!
I have no problem with a EVF, just fix the frame rate issues with low light and give me 5fps+ and I will buy both the nokton25 and noktor50 f0.95 and some more SHG glass
Then you can give it video and focus tracking to produce wonders with SHG
A mirror-less pro can do things that competition mirror pros simply cannot and that is reason enough to do it I think, even though video is not necessary. PUT PRESSURE ON COMPETITION
Maybe I should stop dreaming
The article did give some hope though
didn’t Olympus stated in an official press release that they found 12mp enough & that they prefer to concentrate on IQ enhancing in new sensors? sowe should not complain about the 12mp but hoping for the advencements within these nr of pixels?
I think someone is fooling us.
The plain spec’s can be true but they don’t tell anything on image quality. The E3 successor might still have 12 stops DR and noise free iso 1600. In that case I would be fine with 12 mp.
12 or 14 MP, it is not important, as long as image quality makes a
h-u-g-e step forward.
AGREE
agree too
What’s happen you guy… It’s not final spec yet and I still see so many hidden spec that not list here. Even E-PL1 that just release with same censor size still do better job than Nikon D3000 (which image quality & noise control of D3000 can par with Nikon D90). That mean image quality of E5 should be sharp upgrade from E3 for sure. What’s still do you want it ???
New release of Nikon still stick with 12 MP. Is it make any Nikon user fail and jump to other brand ?
Movie ? Do you want to shoot a picture or video ? If you are the movie maker, please do buy video camcorder for the right job
Well if a photographer wants to start doing video they will not get a camcorder to lug around… they will get a one of the many DSLR’s on the market that do video. Its a pretty much standard feature now on cameras
That’s why it would be very prudent for oly to, like Dan said, “Do it Right”
plus to get the dof you can achieve with some fast lenses would cost a FORTUNE on a HD camcorder (exculde the m43 one). That is why many chose HD capable DSLR
I for one am looking forward to video with some SHG glass, and I know I’m not alone
I dont think your gonna get it 🙁 Video seems to be Panasonics allowed area while Olympus allowed area is cheap nasty unfriendly overpriced EVILs. The whole EVIL area seems cheap and nasty, you cant even wear a GH1 with a neckstrap without it breaking and that camera was for sale for £1300 in UK at release, the cheek! EVIL is living up to its name.
I agree with those who say to wait until we see the image quality. Oly did say at one point that they would be focusing on that more than adding more mp, and that may be the correct approach. That said, it would take a HUGE leap for them to get from where they are now to class-leading high ISO noise. If they’ve made that leap, then this may well be worth the wait. I’m not holding me breath.
As for video, I agree that it isn’t an essential feature of the camera, but if they’ve decided to include it, why not do it well? Why go in half way? It doesn’t inspire confidence when it comes their commitment to the overall performance of the camera.
But as always, these are just rumors, so who knows.
It seems they might have something else up their sleeves, but who knows.
It is funny…
everybody is flaming about bad pixels and the pixelrace, but then there is a company which will try to stop the pixelrace and nhance the iq and verybody is flaming about not enough pixels… get some backbone!!
that’s right.. see what canon did: all the latest canon cameras don’t feature so much megapixels as done in the 5DmII.. for istance, eos 1dmarkIV – the flagship camera – has 16mp, 7D has 18mp, latest 60D too.. maybe, the megapixel war is coming (finally) to end..
I hope so
It reminds me the Intel & AMD megahertz war
There were even lawsuits for misguiding people
Now we have 1.2 ghz chips blowing the old Pentium4 3.2ghz out the water
I’m happy oly chose not to engage in it
Those video specs are a joke.
Why do I not believe this rumor? This makes no sense ~ “HD video @ 720P with 30fps” for a flagship camera.
This is rumor sites feeding upon each other… hogs gone wild.
Well, it’s Wednesday, we should see that FT5 announcement of the E5 that was posted earlier right?
Now I see why this is weatherproof: THAT I COULD PEE ON IT! TSADAM!
fact….there’s no E5
hope that i’m wrong
and the rumors are wrong to
E-3 have the same sensor so Panasonic L10, so i think if Olympus have Pnasonic sensor, is the same sensor so GH2 have.
Is the rumor on spec. to Panasonic GH2!
the prototype E3 was a called E-p1 in 2006
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/olympus_e_p1/
maybe the 15mp Panasonic sensor in the “E-p3” could be one of the multiple prototypes?? (not that 15mp is needed but to show these specs aren’t final)
prototype E-P1 = E3 (drop P + 2 = E3)
prototype E-P3 = E5? (drop P + 2 = E5)????
maybe I am looking to deep into this
13 days seems sooooo long
If it is Nikon, she will name it E-3s
I definitely would rather pay $2,000 to $2,200 for a camera with some little more impressive raw performance numbers for video as a flagship DSLR from Olympus. I have no idea if there is enough market demand and willingness of customers to pay that would make my preferences in a camera design into a profitable business proposition for Olympus.
However, these specs are just rumors, and we will have to see what is actually announced in a few weeks.
Also, maybe there are some really innovative yet to be announced advances in the camera.
We will just have to wait and see.
I am at the point of not trusting any rumors at all any more…we shall see when we get the official word. All I can say is that most of these are in the “no duh” camp, since they were there in the E3 too.
To all those who are in the “I’m going to leave Olympus!” chorus: So what exactly is it that other brands do that you need so badly? More megapixels? Higher frame rate? More AF points?! All of those have been available elsewhere for a few years, so I’m not sure why anyone would choose to pick up and leave now.
The first Olympus DSLR with video must be the flagship E-5, not the “economic flagship” successor to E-30.
Therefore, I also do believe we will soon hear about the E-3 successor. Wheather the flagship will have 720p or 1024p doesn’t matter in my mind, Olympus main focus is DSC, not video. See how Panasonic differentiate their models.
I hope the E-5 will be a slimmer camera body than the current E-3, but still strongly built and with the same excellent weather seals.
Perhaps moving to SDXC will help, as well as concentrating on fewer connectors and buttons.
Unfortunately, I think it’s too early for a Bluetooth protocol. Additional GPS could be integrated into a new Power battery holder.
In order for the camera to become a success, it needs to be a smooth photographic tool, delivering the results one would expect in year 2010. Unfortunately, today, the sensor is the crucial component, and there are only three manufacturers left, thet can combine video, live view and still photography, as well as autofocus from the sensor.
Considering all manufacturers are on the same sophisticated level, which I strongly believe, this still gives the µ43 about ~2/3EV handicap to the APS-C cameras, and ~2EV to 135FF. It has been good enough, and is still good enough. However 135FF id 2EV away, which in some situations can be bridged, but not in all photographic situations.
I think you are describing a good E30 successor
E3 doesn’t need to be slimmer in my opinion, honestly I would prefer a built on vertical grip like a 1d or d3, though know it wont happen
with video coming I kinda expect more buttons
If you want slimmer, E-XX is a great alternative in my opinion
I don’t see a need to go smaller though, Especially if you want to use SHG glass on it, and if your not then E-xx fits the slot perfect
If its only 720@30fps I think that will result in very brutal reviews by the photographic world. And to a degree that does matter
If flag has 720@30 when will 1080 come? years? It would have to be at next flagship announcement right, unless they bring 1080 to a lower level camera in coming months which would make no sense in my opinion
720@30 is the lowest you can go(excluding rate), will all new E’s be the same video? or will some lower E’s have better video then flag? or will the flag be the only video capable E
what ever the case if it really is 720@30fps, better video would be coming in many months later and better video is already overdue right now!
And if that better video doesn’t find itself in the flag that makes it worse
I am waiting for the final announcment, assuming there is one, before deciding my next move, be it E-5 or to another brand. However so far I have not seen anything that compels me to stay with Olympus. If it was just a matter of a new body then OK, I would stay, but I need some more glass at both the wide and tele ends as my photgraphic work has changed a bit recently. If I do move it will be to FF.
John
Nobody cares.
The “I’m going to leave Olympus now” posts are incredible. I understand being disappointed but the camera isn’t even out yet and no reviews have been performed. I also don’t understand the desire for high megapixels either, especially with a smaller sensor than the competition. What would really be incredible is a 8-10 MP, low-light monster. Then again, I guess most “pros” will be using this outdoors or in a lit studio environment.
60fps would be awesome, but I expect that in the m43 realm with all of the lenses that are being marketed as silent focusing. These don’t exist for 43, so video is not the 43 priority. Especially since all of the “pros” are saying they would rather not have video in their still camera for some reason. I bet the image quality will be pretty good compared to the 7D. Only a couple weeks until we know for sure.
MORE ANGER AT THE UPDATE
ANGER!!!!!
I am an Olympus fan and I second this message!!! All Canon dslrs are selling like crazy (550d/7d/5d2) and its down to you getting two things for one, a cinema like movie camera and an amazing still camera. Merge this trend into the E5 and Oly are gold. 720p and 30fps will not cut it at all.
Heck with the video, if I wanted that I’d buy a HD video camera.
It’s like saying I really want my car to be a truck too. You want a truck, buy a truck.
I need 1-2 stops more (call it EV, call it ISO); faster AF; C-AF that works well, some more DR would always be nice and weather sealing…and I’ll put out the $xxxx for the E-5.
And keep CF; all pros have standardized on CF now and that media is the same for Nikon and Canon.
Better job on what they started with the E-3…
hold your horses people … there is only one thing that this E-5 needs to do:
– include a chip that has the low light ability of the Nikon D700 / D3
that’s it!
Look at the price of the 14-54/2.8/3.5 and 50-200/2.8-3.5 … try and find the equivalent. Have you seen the price of the new Canon 400/2.8 IS. Okay f2.8 vs f3.5 but the Canon is over 11x the price of the (yes its a zoom) Oly 50-200/2.8-3.5.
And who else makes f2 zooms? Nobody!
The E-30 is really well designed and in operation its wonderful. Its an upgrade of the E-3 apart from the magnesium alloy thing (and weather sealing?). The E-30 is fast and has Oly’s latest chip (until two weeks time).
E-5 has to delivery the best chip the FourThirds system has ever seen.
(then we just keep quiet while the Nikon and Canon folk spend 2x, 3x, 5x, and more on their lenes) …. GRIN!
A FourThirds sensor is in INTRINSIC 2 stops disadvantage compared to FF chips, so it is practically impossible bring it somewhere near their performance. In fact, a 4/3 camera equipped with the celebrated f/2 zooms is perfectly comparable to a FF camera with f/4 zooms of the equivalent reach. If people learned to live with that fact, there would be far less unrealistic expectations such as this.
Its true, I agree. It better produce good high ISO and decent DR, otherwise it defeats the purpose of those awesome lenses. Its hard to sell those features in specs and marketing though. The proof will lie with the head to head comparison with a D3 or D700.
The sad truth is that the commercial success of this camera really determines the future course for Olympus. If this camera is a non seller, I would expect Olympus to almost completely abandon 43 development. This is troubling if you are waiting on nice new lenses.
The specs of the camera alone will probably not deter too many previous Olympus owners from buying the camera, but it does nothing to bring someone new into the system.
So, there is still hope that rescue can come in the form of
1. Amazing IQ, huge DR and ISO ability. that may attract serious enthusiast. I still contemplating buying an old Fuji S5 Pro for DR alone and that camera is really old now.
2. A Modular system
3. maybe this is a trick and only the E30 mk II specs and not the E-5
NEED
SPECS
FOR
THIS
12MP
SENSOR!
GH1 sensor? Hardly to believe, GH1 sensor is clearly a 14 MP one.
GH2 sensor? No way, GH2 sensor should have even more megapixels.
Kodak sensor? Be serious, which one?
So I’m afraid it’s still the well-known G1–G2–PEN sensor. Bye-bye, E–5!
PS … we should be comparing the E-5 spec to the current top of the line: E-30. The E-30 took over from the E-3 when it was launched. So:
ALL of this lot is an improvement over the already excellent E-30:
– Magnesium weather proof body
– Dual memory card slots (not sure if CF+SD or 2xSD)
– 12MP sensor [but lets make sure its a NEW high ISO wonder chip]
– 100% viewfinder coverage
And Canon/Nikon don’t have IS in the camera. Come on Oly, do us proud!
John– I’m curious about the “more glass at both wide and tele ends”. Zuiko 7-14mm, Zuiko 8mm, Zuiko 50-200mm (400mm high end with crop factor), along with the 1.4 teleconverter seem like reasonable lenses.
Eric
90-250, 300 and 2x teleconverter do also exist. 600mm on FT are not enough? Sounds interesting.
If this is the new Olympus e5 i will burn all my Olympus equipment in the middle of my bedroom 😉 ^v^ 😀
I bet Oly will not disappoint us! Ok, 12MP… Do we really need more? I’m more than happy with 10MP of my current E-3. Give me some +7 to -7 EV DR and even 8MP will do 🙂 Or give me 12MP with no noise at ISO 12800+ and E-5 is the winner.
I guess we’ll have to wait till final specs are out. I’m 100% sure that new E-5 will have some WOW!! surprise thingy. It’s flagship camera after all.
Guys
Pop over to Photorumors….the new Fuji 4/3 camera has been scooped.
And it’s got a 12mp Fuji sensor.
Is this the new E-5 sensor…?
I surely do hope that Fuji joins the party! If we get a Fuji option in sensors that would be another feather in the hat for 4/3, and more options for cameras and lenses. (Probably m4/3 bodies and lenses)
If the new E5 has a killer Super CCD EXR with crazy dynamic range and high ISO capabilities, it could be a game changer.
Lets hope for this…
Agree, the new E-5 sensor has to be something special – it could be Fujifilm one. Those EXRs are not available in bigger size as 4/3 format is – and huge dynamic range is what FT never had. If there will be old LiveMOS then who will buy this? Unique sensor (in high-end IQ terms) is the Olympus E-System rescuer.
Funny reading these comments when i bet about half wont even buy the E-5 when it comes out even if it turns out to be awesome 😀
really pros looking for art filters and 1080 vids on their bodies now? we have to remember oly is one of the ‘traditional’ photography brands out there like pentax. So dont expect the same bells and whistles as other brands.
ever wondered why after all these years we still have only 2 types of flash. but those 2 already cover what you need in photography. the rest is up to your skills 🙂
I think the poster requesting art filters is being sarcastic, which is sometimes hard to convey in a web format.
I have art filters on my E-30 and have never used them. I don’t complain about the filters being there. I just don’t think the camera is the best place to perform DSP post-processing of images.
The art filters feature is probably targeted at casual photographers that just want to immediately upload photos to facebook to share with friends. That is not my thing in photography.
However, the art filters are just going to be DSP algorithms that were ported to the camera and stored in non-voltaile memory with the firmware. Art filters are not going to be a major development cost because the algorithms do not even have to be efficiently ported as they are not being executed real-time during image capture.
Thus, I don’t get upset about the art filters in a camera. If some people use them, then great. However, for me they are something to just ignore and are not a reason to complain because the art filters were not that costly to include in a camera.
If any camera company ever makes an open operating system camera, then users could choose whether to download any add-on art filter apps to the camera.
dont get me wrong, i dont mind having art filters in any camera and i agree that more functions available will be most welcome.
what i am saying is it is also not less of a camera if those functions are not present, especially when the target market are pros or aspiring pros. so art filters or not, 720p or 1080p, these are just extra functions… the prime concern should be better IQ and AF which what the former E-3 users were really complaining about for years
These features requested are not bells and whistles any more. And People don’t expect them because other brands have it its expected because the Olympus Pens have/had it for over a year
I really don’t think its too much to ask for…
I actually think it will help Olympus more then it will help me,
they can gain lots new people with a good camera, they already have the BEST lenses on market
PENs have art-filters, E-5 might have them. PENs have 720p video, so will E-5
so why the frustration then for what is said to be basic specs?
It is only upseting because this camera is only picking up relics from the pen which has been around for a year
if it was 60fps @ 720, that’s fine
but 30fps is not good enough, its the lowest
the GH1 is like a 400 dollar camera when u minus the 800 lens and it does 720@60fps and 1080 with NP, and its old
maybe they didn’t go all out on the video cause the camera has a mirror and they didn’t work in autofocus during video like the 5Dmk2
maybe I should just wait until the modular camera comes out
I just want oly to make something that can replace my aged E3 and give me auto-focus video so I don’t have to buy a GH1/2
A mirror-less pro would answer that (not a micro pro, a mirror-less pro)
I will take a EVF in place of mirror if i can get focusing, tracking, and face in my video on my Zuiko
I just wish they would hurry up and do it
Also for all the delays and postpones, I would have thought the specs above would have been better/ more shocking
No 1080 on the pro, then when will oly bring 1080? panny has 1080 for long time. Will 1080 come on next flag after E5? if not it would have to come to a lower level E camera and if it did how can a lower level E have better video then the flag? Thats not wise
Only other option is to no bring 1080 at all and that would be suicide, or they can just replace th E5 in a year, maybe its just a stepping stone to the “merged” 43 & m43
My E3 is still good, i might just keep it and get a GH2, the only thing is focusing my SHG on it with adapter wont work (auto)
Modular need to come soon
this is sooo right napalm.
there are over 100 comments here, but i believe that there are only max 3 people which really want/can buy this camera. All the others are just talking nonsense.
These 3 people need a sturdy, lightwieght outdoor camera. The video function is a nice gimmick (for some documentation) – nothing more – cause they are scooting picutres and not “collecting” cameras.
The Artfilter are ridiculouse, but also the scene-modes. But they can be easily avoided. What i dont use cant get in my way.
What about the 12MP. 12 MP are enough if you do not have to crop. If you know how to shoot – no problem at all.
Olympus has improved there IQ with every new camera, so nothing to worry.
But i still believe, that there will be more MP, because as you can see here. Out of 100 there are 95 “joe average”s which are flaming for more pixel.
I’m (maybe was now) buying one
You want to get close to a grizzly, have time to set up your tripod without cropping, I don’t think so, too many dead photographers for that
I have an open wallet right now and want to give it to Oly for an E-5, but they have to sell me something I want.
+1 here
i have a feeling what the rest of us really want here is not an E-5 but just an updated E-30 or E-520… given that some of us are looking more into FEATURES than PERFORMANCE. we can hope Oly still releases another 4/3 body aside from the E-5 but so far no such news. so if E-5 does not satisfy our needs, maybe wait for the next planned cameras for 2011 or jump ship if you want.
as for me, i think i’d be fine with my old Oly bodies til 2011 (maybe even 2012)
What I find amazing is that for years almost all Olympus users has been saying that the biggest issue of 4/3 that needs ro be solved is the high ISO performance. And now, when the 12 mp rumor clearly points that this is the main issue that the camera will try to adress, everybody is suddenly disapointed. It even seems to me that there was some vote on this site about what do you want from the new Olympus cameras, and quite a percentage voted for 10mp high iso camera!
To those concerned with video: for me it is clear that video is not the focus of the flagship. It is much more a focus for the micro 4/3. But in the same time I dissagree whith those that don’t want video at all: additionnals features can always be useful in some occasions, and nobody is forcing you to use them if don’t want (same is valid for artistic filters) As long as they do not induce compromises with IQ, it is better to have them, even if almost never use them.
I don’t get the impression that people are upset about the 12mp, but your point is well taken. The specs will probably only deter the early adopters, and outsiders looking in.
I think the real test will come with the reviews. This camera better have good DR,ISO and such otherwise Olympus will probably be reduced to ashes. less than impressive specs with less than impressive image quality will spell disaster.
http://www.digitalphotographywriter.com/2010/07/dslr-replacements-in-20102011-vintage.html
Check this website
I don’t think full frame is the answer
What I just realised is that this is a circular rumour. You are confirming off photorumours, he probably is getting his rumors from you!!!
Ie its no really a confirmation at all
Well, to me those specs seem like Olympus has paid attention to m4/3rds only. This “new” flagship seems to be build from pieces of already developed equipment and updated only with couple of new gimmicks to confuse old school Oly-fanboys and tap the money from them. I hope that Olympus isn’t that stupid, because only some of us can be fooled like that.
That is only a scenario, for I hope I’m terribly wrong and Olympus releases an amazing camera which produces noiseless pictures up to ISO 12800, best dynamic range on the market and 1080p video @ 24fps. Of course, IQ of the pictures is the first priority, but 1080p@24 video should be almost a basic feature in high end DSLRs, thus omission of it would be a radical failure.
12 megapixels is more than enough if above mentioned qualities are provided. 😉
Hopefully this is released along side a modular camera
Your E-5 spcs
■Magnesium weather proof body = Same as E-3
■Dual memory card slots (not sure if CF+SD or 2xSD) = Same as E-3 but CF/xD
■12MP sensor 10MP on E-3
■11 AF points = Same as E-3
■6fps, 5fps on E-3
■Image stabilization = Same as E-3
■Anti-dust feature = Same as E-3
■Some kind of a rotating/tilting LCD display = Same as E-3
■HD video @ 720P with 30fps New feature
■Built-in wireless flash What?
■100% viewfinder coverage = Same as E-3
Do you really think that these samll upgrades will be all OLympus is planning to do?
12 megs of suck.
no, the more I hate this rumor, the more I think there is something sneaky in the planning.
Can it really be this lame?
If this was the best they could come up with after so much time it would be ridiculous and market suicide. Therefore (I feel like Sherlock Holmes here) there MUST be more. Has to be.
If you look at the history of Olympus, they have a proud tradition of innovation. So that is what we should expect for the E5. And if I’m wrong, well they’ve blown it big-style.
But let’s wait and see before we rush to judge eh?
Hey, how about the Panasonic patent of tri-layer sensor?
With a oversized 12MP sensor, there might be around 10MP worth efective pixels on 4/3 crop. That in three layer tech would be something!
I think the patent comes later, i is safe on E-5 have sensor to GH2.